Headless body identified as missing journalist

[Zogarth]

Case is so damn weird. Daily coverage by danish news because of the bizarre circumstances. A rather "famous" person who built his own submarine and even rockets, has murdered (possibly accidental, nobody knows), a swedish journalist, with weird changing stories, body found with limbs and head cut off. It reads like a novel, and is damn weird.

[rogueMatthias]

Am I the only that finds it somewhat scary that he supposedly took such detail into consideration? Do we like need a scan of that area to ensure more bodies aren't tied to the bottom of the sea?

That was my thought exactly. Seems like he's put a lot of thought (or practice) in to this.

[mvaliz]

Mad inventors.
Sunken submarines
Headless bodies.

This sounds like something out of a novel.

Hah! That's kinda like how I was reading it as well! :P

[lonely zergling]

Crazy case, cant wait to see it in cinema.

[turboether]

He would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those meddling kids.

[Queen of Hamsters]

How I believe it happened:

He tried getting into his pants
She said no
He became full of rage since "how can someone resist ME??"
He killed her
He tried to hide it
He got caught

[mvaliz]

I didn't imply he necessarily is a serial killer. Just that this wasn't his first murder/kill.

A couple of things indicate this. First, the motive for the killing. The most plausible reason is that the killing happened accidentally. If it didn't, it implies some kind of "serial killerish" behaviour. The inventor and the journalist hardly knew each other - there shouldn't be a real motive for a murder unless it's some kind of serial killerish murder thing.

The submarine as a murder scene and the way he tried to hide the murder are strongly against premeditated murder. Because murdering someone on the boat, sinking it and throwing the body in pieces to the sea is a stupid idea as we have noticed.

You make a few interesting points, but I'd like to counter in saying that "Well, all Serial Killers start somewhere with a first kill!" And as you pointed out, he was pretty damn sloppy about it! That's kinda a sign of a starter kill as well... :P

The sad part is, I could almost (again..ALMOST) see his story being plausible if he had simply said he panicked when she died, thinking they would tie her accidental death to him (weither he was accused of deliberate murder or simply responsibility due to negligence of safety protocols on his sub) - so he sawed the identifiable parts off and abandoned the body out of purely being in a state of irrational panic, even up to "sinking" his prized sub out of personal fear. But, he didn't say that. He keeps changing the story - and the one about the propeller happening to strategically chop off the identifiable parts is really screaming desperation here to cover it up. And, as the song goes - the act of covering up makes it worse than the crime itself...

I guess my point is - if it happened the way I outlined above (which I really don't believe), he would've been FAR better to have said that all upfront than to keep making a shifting lie out of panic, which is only going to make him look far more guilty of premeditated murder than possible involuntary manslaughter (or whatever it would be called).

EDIT:

Ahhh...just read this post up here:

Police also reopened a very old case with similarities apart from the submarine part.

Yeah, this might change my theory of a "first kill" then. >_<

[mvaliz]

How I believe it happened:

He tried getting into his pants
She said no
He became full of rage since "how can someone resist ME??"
He killed her
He tried to hide it
He got caught

I know it's a typo - but I just wanted to point out that in simply misprinting "She" into the word "He" paints a WHOLE different kind of hysterical picture in my head of what happened! :P

[Toogoodman]

Because that fact really doesn't occur to some people.

I'm touching upon how egregiously and, frankly, downright predictable this forum's usual suspects become to grandstand without an iota of what the situation is about.


I just thought I'd beat it to the punch.

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I'm not claiming terrorism and I read the entire article.

So... not really much of a comparison.

You're literally the only one talking about it though. You had the first comment, had to bait, are the only one talking about it, and you come up with this response. Jesus man, you're a walking fucking stereotype of start shit from nothing.

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I personally think the whole thing went down like this:

1) This project is his baby, his lifes work, and he was probably stoked that someone wanted to do an article on it
2) Something happened while at sea, my guess is a major malfunction which lead to one of the follow scenarios
-The major malfunction looked really bad, and she told him she was going to ruin him in the piece because she was scared for her life as the vessel was sinking, so he
decided to kill her to save himself from the embarrassment of his lifes work going up in flames.
-Major malfunction killed her, he knew he was liable, so he tried to cover it up because he knew he was fucked, and it back fired bad

[ItsRainingMetal]

I think it's possible there actually was some accident onboard, he might have panicked at that point and dumped the body.

[Super Kami Dende]

Let's see, we have the buzz words:

-Swedish
-Female
-Journalist
-Missing
-Beheaded


I've seen a lot less lead to people claiming terrorism. And I've really no reason to expect some posters to read past that first line without jumping to some sort of stilted conclusion



Or are you saying that all of the "anti-islam" posters on here always respond with tact and well-thought out responses?

The fact you instantly had to bring it up means that you yourself think that crimes like this automatically seem to be done by people of the "Islamic" persuasion thus needed to quickly make sure people knew it wasn't them for once. Congratulations, you are a hypocrite.

On-topic: This is a pretty fucked up situation. Sounds like a bad movie.

[Vertigo X]

I didn't imply he necessarily is a serial killer. Just that this wasn't his first murder/kill.

The FBI defines serial killing as "a series of two or more murders, committed as separate events, usually, but not always, by one offender acting alone"

[OnlineSamantha]

I think it's possible there actually was some accident onboard, he might have panicked at that point and dumped the body.

Except for the part where he cut off the head.

[THE Bigzoman]

Straight out of a show.

[Everwake]

Intriguing and sad. Why did he kill her, I wonder? Did he try to make a move on her while they were down below and she rebuffed his advances?

[Lochton]

Intriguing and sad. Why did he kill her, I wonder? Did he try to make a move on her while they were down below and she rebuffed his advances?

Unknown, really.

The self proclaimed scientist had multiple different stories that kept changing until they found her body -(parts). Then he suddenly stuck with, there was an accident and he had to dump the body.

She was invited out to sail in his own submarine, out at sea, this creation of his came into problems and sank. He was the only one found at that time. Only later on, did they find pieces of her body.

This 'scientist' was meant to have been honoured at a cultural festival in Aarhus (Larger city in the northern part of Jylland, Denmark). Though, after hearing this, the director had to remove his claim of the movie, and the movie from the festival.

My theory was, she was meant to have interviewed him about this movie when, well the unknown, problems happened onboard. Maybe a sexual approach that wasn't mutual, or an accident that would've hurt his name.

Currently, he's still held by the police, and multiple sources are against him.

[Kontinuum]

Journalist Kim Wall's head found in sea near Copenhagen
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41536552

[Xarkan]

So...what's to talk about? Someone murdered someone else and tried to cover it up.

We could discuss his alias (Rocket Madsen/Raket Madsen) or his Rocket Madsens Space Laboratory (Raket Madsens Rum-laboratorium)?

[Astalnar]

Her being a journalist doesn't have any relevance to her death.

[XDurionX]

Her being a journalist doesn't have any relevance to her death.

Yeah except the fact that she wouldn't have met her killer if it wasn't for the story she wrote.