Active shooter on Las Vegas strip.

[kail]

We are looking at the following:

1) Played Video games to avoid people
2) Bought house away from other people
3) Girlfriend was from foreign country with relatives in that country
4) Collected firearms
5) Was told by community that he couldn't have his privacy (ordered to remove privacy fence)

So, looking at it he was an anti-social guy who was very paranoid with a lot of money. Sadly, minus the money part that probably describes most of the gamers.

Gamers have foreign girlfriends?

Any argument using another country is just an emotional plea.

How so?

[TITAN308]

How so?

Because another country is not our country. Our respective societies determine how we live day to day.

There are processes in place to alter the laws and regulations of that society. However stamping your feet and demanding something emotionally is not one. My guess is 99% of the US posters on MMO-C who are anti-gun bitch on the internet about gun control but don't do much beyond that. In regards to the non-US posters and gun control, who gives a shit what they think. lol

All they seem to be capable of is hyperbole like, "You own a gun, therefor you are the same as a mass shooter." I mean how ridiculous is that logic? That is like saying because I own a car and I own a 6 pack of beer, I am the same as as someone who performs a DUI manslaughter.

[kail]

Because another country is not our country. Our respective societies determine how we live day to day.

Not our country but I would argue that societies between 1st world countries have their similarities. Coming from a cousin that was stationed in Germany (Air Force), he's pretty much told me the main difference is the language, skin color and food. I don't see harm in using our history and other country's histories/data to better understand what works well and what doesn't. It's not a flawless test, but it's the best we have atm.

There are processes in place to alter the laws and regulations of that society. However stamping your feet and demanding something emotionally is not one. My guess is 99% of the US posters on MMO-C who are anti-gun bitch on the internet about gun control but don't do much beyond that. In regards to the non-US posters and gun control, who gives a shit what they think. lol

Yes, legislation is a process that is different across many countries. I also lol at people thinking they can get change done via bitching as much as I lol at people going circle jerk over the 2A.

All they seem to be capable of is hyperbole like, "You own a gun, therefor you are the same as a mass shooter." I mean how ridiculous is that logic? That is like saying because I own a car and I own a 6 pack of beer, I am the same as as someone who performs a DUI manslaughter.

Well...ok. About the people that aren't walking hyperboles?

[Youn]

Gamers have foreign girlfriends?

No, but he clearly wanted as few people in his life as possible. So, having a girlfriend that you don't have to deal with their relatives is pretty much a plus to a paranoid guy.

[Independent voter]

The IRS says the shooter made $5 million dollars in 2015.

What a strange case.

[Livnthedream]

You're outright lying. Statistics show exactly that getting rid of scary guns will reduce death. That exactly is the case. You saying it's dishonest doesn't make it a lie. Just makes you a dishonest person calling someone else dishonest.

Not in any appreciable amount. I personally don't call ~5% swing reasonable for the sheer amount of bullshit one would have to go through to implement it.

[Slant]

Not in any appreciable amount. I personally don't call ~5% swing reasonable for the sheer amount of bullshit one would have to go through to implement it.

Oh, so human lives aren't worth as much as the time of politicians that would otherwise debate snowballs in Congress, because denying climate change is much more valuable?

Mmkay.

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Not our country but I would argue that societies between 1st world countries have their similarities. Coming from a cousin that was stationed in Germany (Air Force), he's pretty much told me the main difference is the language, skin color and food. I don't see harm in using our history and other country's histories/data to better understand what works well and what doesn't. It's not a flawless test, but it's the best we have atm.

Your cousin is right. There's not much difference. But people don't want change, any change. It scares the shit out of them. So much so, that people will willingly sacrifice other people to preserve the current status, as shitty as that is. Because they don't understand Europe and think everything here is literally hell outside of tourist season. Fuck knows why they think that, but I guess it's got something to do with "USA greatest country of THE WORLD!" and thus by definition everything else being literal hell on Earth.

A bit amusing, if you're sitting on the other side and watch a nation enjoy the odd slaughter here and there as the biggest main event of that months entertainment... kinda like ancient Rome. Bread and games, eh?

That was cynical, I know. But there's not many other ways to talk about it for reasonable people that still remember how it feels like to be in a safe country.

[Deleted]

Just me or does the guy look like Walter?

[Worvon]

Lets not forget, the Trump administration blamed this terrorist attack on Obama. Sickening.

[Nfinitii]

You're outright lying. Statistics show exactly that getting rid of scary guns will reduce death. That exactly is the case. You saying it's dishonest doesn't make it a lie. Just makes you a dishonest person calling someone else dishonest.

What r "scary guns"?

[TITAN308]

Is that why their training and educational requirements are much higher? It's probably the other way around, put a US cop in the EU and they'd be considered incompetent assholes.

No it would probably be a walk in the park for a US cop. Imagine doing your job in a city where not every low life degenerate wants to kill you to prove a notch on the belt.

Get over it.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

Not connected YET

Translation: I have already decided he is connected and no evidence, or lack thereof, will change my mind.

[Slant]

What r "scary guns"?

Gotta ask him, I just repeated what he said. I think he was ridiculing gun control types, thinking they are scared of guns in general.

[TITAN308]

Your reasoning is everything that is wrong with the US police. Being a cop isn't about being a tough guy who opposes or deters violence.

When being a police officer is about de-escalation and respecting human lives (as it should be) then US cops would be horribly incompetent. Using violence is the walk in the park cops in the US get to enjoy.

That is a whole lot of blabber for not actually addressing the point in which you quoted. You can't de-escalate certain areas of the USA. It can only be changed from the top down that is waaaaaaaaay over a cops head.

A police officer cannot change gang activity, the government in charge of creating jobs and a stable local economy have to.

In the mean time the cops have to deal with total shit-heads to keep those innocents who do live there safe while the government as a whole fails these people and will probably continue to fail them for generations to come.

[adamzz]

Yeah I agree with you but most people seem to define terror to be linked to some said motives, are we ignorant?

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88 guns per 100 people seriously? Does that count military stock?

That's the lowest estimate I could find. According to the highest estimate there's 112 guns per 100 people. According to the Congressional Research Service there's over 300 million guns in the US, I don't know if they count military stock.

[Deleted]

Obviously, they are liars and terrorists. But if the school bully claims it was HIM who threw a rock through a window? Yeah.

difference being that when the school bully claims it was him he will get detention/a fine/god knows what punishment (e.g an undesirable outcome), ISIS Claiming they orchestrated the whole thing is free points on the terror bingo, so your example isn't comparable at all. But obviously someone killing several people is islamic terrorism orchestrated by ISIS, i mean it is impossible the guy was just a nut

[Tennis]

So have they figured out the motive yet? How do we stop these attacks in the future?

[downnola]

So have they figured out the motive yet? How do we stop these attacks in the future?

Save our culture from nihilism and degeneracy.

[chazus]

What r "scary guns"?

There's been a lot of dialogue in gun control as to 'what needs controlling'. The general consensus by people who don't matter is that 'scary guns' are the problem. They're the things that come to mind first for much of the population. It's the reason that anything that isn't a pistol or shotgun is an "AR-15" or "AR-15 Style".

Basically anything that isn't holstered. If it's all black and has lots of stuff on it, it has a menacing look, and apparently that's a bigger problem than things like large magazines, or giving guns to the wrong people.

[Surfd]

And in an interesting twist:

Police have dramatically changed their account of how the Las Vegas massacre began on Oct. 1, revealing Monday that the gunman shot a hotel security guard six minutes before opening fire on a country music concert — raising new questions about why police weren’t able to pinpoint the gunman’s location sooner.

Officials had previously said that gunman Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nev., shot Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos after Paddock had unleashed his deadly volley at the Route 91 Harvest festival, an assault that began at 10:05 p.m.

They had credited Campos, who was shot in the leg, with stopping the 10-minute assault on the concert crowd by turning the gunman’s attention to the hotel hallway, where Campos was checking an alert for an open door in another guest’s room.

But Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Monday that Paddock shot Campos before his mass shooting — at 9:59 p.m. — and they now don’t know why Paddock stopped his attack on the crowd.

Paddock, who had placed security cameras outside his room, shot Campos through the door of his suite, which was outfitted with a camera to survey the hallway, as was a room service cart parked outside. Police have said that Paddock fired 200 rounds into the hallway.

So not only did the staff at the Hotel know that there was an active shooter in the building BEFORE he opened fire on the crowd, but it makes you wonder why it took the cops so long to track the guy down to his hotel room when they should have already had an active shooting incident relayed to dispatch while this stuff was going down pretty much pinpointing his location before he even started shooting.