Nazi-killing game 'wolfenstein ii' angers nazis with 'make america nazi-free again'

[Zecora]

"Left wing people overuse the word nazi. Just cause those people are chanting nazi slogans and have nazi ideology doesn't mean they are actual nazis!"
*sees a feminist say anything*
"Damn feminazis are ruining this country!"

Straw-manning so hard I know, but I am enjoying this sudden worry right wing people have with overusing nazi given feminazi is such a common thing to call anyone with a slight feminist viewpoint. Or are we going to pretend that isn't a thing or is suddenly wrong too?

This forum should have an upvote button...

[epLe]

Nazism = National Socialism : - a form of socialism featuring racism and expansionism and obedience to a strong leader.

How does that not apply to the current US (Trump) regime ? -This is what explains why anti-nazism is frowned upon over there.

[JohnBrown1917]

"nazis" is just a buzzword

you'd have to be a literal retarded person to believe actual nazis exist in todays america

but then again, the left isnt know for their intelligence

They just share the idealogy, totez different thing.

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And this kids, is example of an opinion, as opposed to fact.

The kind of people you don't want to get close too anyway, so its a good thing they make that opinion clear.

[Deleted]

If you believe nazis are the same as socialists (their sworn enemies), then you must also believe that North Korea is a democratic republic of the people.

[JohnBrown1917]

European Union. There I just named you one.

lol, the liberal union of europe? That one? Whos biggest supporters are liberal? While most Dem Soc parties are euro skeptic?

[urasim]

Okay, I'll accept that you honestly didn't get what I meant and apologise for that. However, I will note that the label "Nazi" isn't thrown around nearly as much as is claimed, most of the time I see it used, it is used for a clear reason (even when I don't always agree with the reason).

Apology accepted.

"As much as you claim" what did I claim? That it's used a lot and in many instances it's lost it's meaning? There's no quantity listed here. But, when you label someone a Nazi that isn't a Nazi, you kinda devalued the meaning of the word Nazi.

Clarified, not corrected. I still stand by what I wrote!

And you attack others on the basis of reading comprehension...

He didn't "correct" himself, he clarified what he meant since you were having trouble understanding what had been written.

Corrected the miscommunication with a clarification. Words have meaning, and I'm not wrong with what I stated.

[Raunchy]

Nazis lol, big whoop 1 thousand people we dont care about are angered lol, whats funny is people actually think nazis are an issue lol

[Zecora]

Apology accepted.

"As much as you claim" what did I claim? That it's used a lot and in many instances it's lost it's meaning? There's no quantity listed here. But, when you label someone a Nazi that isn't a Nazi, you kinda devalued the meaning of the word Nazi.

I think Rorcanna has a point in that you don't properly read what you respond to. This is what I wrote:

However, I will note that the label "Nazi" isn't thrown around nearly as much as is claimed, most of the time I see it used, it is used for a clear reason (even when I don't always agree with the reason).

I never said YOU claimed anything.

[Raunchy]

Mmo champ has weird priorities... nazis..... just lol

[urasim]

I think Rorcanna has a point in that you don't properly read what you respond to. This is what I wrote:



I never said YOU claimed anything.

So, since that's the only thing you're able to respond to, I'll take it as you're admitting defeat.

How about argue the point and leaving petty shit, that's irrelevant, at the door? Whether it's me or ANYONE else who's said it, the point still stands that many are devaluing the word, and it's almost entirely lost it's meaning at this point. Sure, you might be able to point out a factually Nazi when you're pressured enough(like how I made you correct yourself), but there are many who will call me a Nazi for even saying I'm for free speech protections under the law. You were having a hard time understanding what I was saying, so there's obviously going to be people who don't know shit about the words they're speaking... Do you really think that everyone who calls people Nazi even know what they're talking about? I think it would be extremely foolish to assume what they mean.

[Machismo]

i believe the term is absolutely self explanatory ...

No, I want you to explain it, because it sounds like you are admitting to being a racist asshat. Like I said, I would rather not make such assumptions, which is why I asked for as much information as possible.

[Deleted]

Really, this entire topic about Wolfenstein: The New Colossus on the merits of killing nazi's? Alternate universe America occupying German Nazi's? The shooter enemies that represent the most reprehensible regime this world has ever known, and thus make you feel damn good about killing loads, and loads, and loads, and loads, etc. of them, and people are a upset?

Really? People...get your priorities straight.

[Moralgy]

actual neo-nazi's are a very small % of people, you could even call them negligable

what the media however is calling nazis are just racial realists

What in the world is a "racial realist". I've never heard this before, could you help me out?

[SoSuMe]

[QUOTE=Darth Dracula;47515116]It didn't trigger me though? I just rolled my eyes at it as I do with most of these things. What annoyed me was anyone that did call them out of it suddenly has the autism-brigade yelling "OMG USE MUST BE DA NAZIZZS!"

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It's easy to get away from all the political bullshit if you just turn off the electronics that you are so addicted to. Funny how people can hate something so much but can't stop doingit.

[segara82]

Meh, i'm just tired out.
I mean i have been shooting nazis in games since 96 when i got my hands on the old Wolfensteins, RtCW being my fav in the line. New Order had some lovely throwbacks and hints in all those little details about the changed timeline/world like the Beatles not greeting the Führer at one of their concerts.
But punching the same bad guys for more than 20 years has made them boring as fuck for me. Same goes for the scary russian commies and/or zombies. Or the russian commie-nazi-zombie. Been there, punched that, something new please.
And throwing in current time politics into a videogame/advertisement when i want to use games to espace for a limited time from the current politics is not getting me to buy that game either. Maybe by the Steam Summer Sale if the current situation is not too similar to any game i might buy it.
Now, i'm just tired out.

[Dead Moose Fandango]

I think I must've been reading too much into these conversations. All I can see is "You like dogs. Hitler liked dogs. So you're a Nazi like Hitler." aaaaand "You don't like Nazis. SJWs don't like Nazis. So you're a SJW." Is that what I'm seeing? I can't tell anymore.

Or at least, that's what I seem to see people apologizing for Nazis are talking about.

[JohnBrown1917]

What in the world is a "racial realist". I've never heard this before, could you help me out?

Nazis and white supremacists who pretend to be not those things.

[Zecora]

So, since that's the only thing you're able to respond to, I'll take it as you're admitting defeat.

"Defeat"? I stand by what I said.

How about argue the point and leaving petty shit, that's irrelevant, at the door?

Irrelevant?! You made several posts because I left something unspoken in a former post of mine, now when I point out that I didn't leave anything unspoken, and that it wasn't YOU I was refering to, you suddenly claim that being consise is irrelevant?!

Whether it's me or ANYONE else who's said it, the point still stands that many are devaluing the word, and it's almost entirely lost it's meaning at this point.

Not unless you are playing the victim card. Are you?

Sure, you might be able to point out a factually Nazi when you're pressured enough(like how I made you correct yourself)

Like I said before, I clarified my post since you were incapable of understanding it, I never corrected anything, as I stand what I originally wrote.

but there are many who will call me a Nazi for even saying I'm for free speech protections under the law.

Really. I have NEVER seen anyone on these forums or ANY other arena claim that someone is a Nazi for being in favour of free speech protection. I think you're talking out of your ass at this point.

You were having a hard time understanding what I was saying, so there's obviously going to be people who don't know shit about the words they're speaking...

-I- were having a hard time understanding what YOU wrote?! YOU are the one who was incapable of understanding that by refering to Nazi ideals I was refering to their views of their victims, be it jews, socialists, gypsies or gays, or the other extremely warped parts of their ideology!

Do you really think that everyone who calls people Nazi even know what they're talking about? I think it would be extremely foolish to assume what they mean.

No I don't. What I said was that "I will note that the label "Nazi" isn't thrown around nearly as much as is claimed, most of the time I see it used, it is used for a clear reason (even when I don't always agree with the reason)." Do you even understand what expressions like "nearly as much as is claimed" and "most of the time" MEANS? Here is a hint: They are not absolutist statements, unlike "everyone".

[helebelemon]

Given a large vocal composition of gamers, one can't help but question the divisive marketing ploy.

[Zecora]

actual neo-nazi's are a very small % of people, you could even call them negligable

what the media however is calling nazis are just racial realists

So, when will you explain exactly what you mean by "racial realists"?