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  1. #621
    Quote Originally Posted by Jshadowhunter View Post
    European Union. There I just named you one.
    What the? The left-wing party are skeptical of EU, the left party in Sweden who used to be communist are the most skeptical.

  2. #622
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Nazis and white supremacists who pretend to be not those things.
    It sounded like something where people don't see race from the name, but yea, turns out you are right. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daethz View Post
    So german nazis thinking their land was owned by them, german blooded people?
    Thats evil how?
    I think americas land is owned by americans, american blood, anyone with american citizenship, is that evil?
    Probably because it's related to the whole "genocide" thing they did during WWII where they attempted to literally depopulate Poland and Russia and settle those lands with Aryans?

    Read a history book. There's a reason Nazis are considered evil. There's a reason people shouldn't associate with them, especially of they don't want to be seen as Nazis either.

    If it marches like a Nazi and it chants like a Nazi, it's probably a Nazi.
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    It amazes me that people can be so butt hurt about wanting to kill virtual Nazis. It amazes me more that people actually want to defend Nazis of any sort, both new and old.

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  5. #625
    Quote Originally Posted by Antiganon View Post
    That isn't what's happening.

    People are blaming the Jewish banking industry, which they believe is in control of the entire world, and trying to form a one world government, which they will be in control of.

    People are advocating a white ethno state. This means either killing or exiling all the blacks, Hispanics, native Americans, Asians, everyone who isn't of white European descent.

    People are actively passing laws to take rights away from the lgbt community at the state level. Executive orders are being used to do the same at the federal level.

    How are the people responsible not Nazis?
    What I describe is happening. Evidence of these occurences is on youtube or if purged on your friendly mirror sites. Just because not every incident is a false accusation doesnt mean they dont happen with alarming frequency. It isnt lending credibility to your argument if you flat out deny this ever happens rather than adress it.
    Now, regarding your argument -Are you refering to one group doing all these things or several groups each doing one of these things? That looks like racial supremacist and totalitarian stuff and the similarity to nazis is apparent to me too because national socialism has these traits but I dont see how these things are either nationalist or socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zecora View Post
    Feel free to try to convince us that the people that threw bottles of piss at people, threatened to burn down businesses with coloured people inside, shouted "BURN THE JEWS!" and killed a woman in Charlotteville weren't really Nazi's, and I won't call you a Nazi for it (though I will likely call you deluded). Make excuses for their actions (like saying "well, the woman only died because she had a heart attack, and anyway, she was a fat Antifa bitch") or say that they were somehow justified, and damn right I will call you a Nazi or Nazi apologist (whichever fits).
    1.) Why would I do that?
    2.) Dishonest argument. You cite examples where there is evidence present, the accused being caught red handed so to speak, I refer specifically to events where evidence is NOT presentm but the power lies in the accusation and uncritical acceptance of the peer group. I made that very clear. For the record: Fuck people burning down businesses in general but especially if its over something like the race of the business owner. I am not even going to comment on the jew thing, it is as degenerate as it is old. And old it is.
    3.) I've only heard that one person died and have no information about further details. What was the cause of death of the woman who died in the vehicle assault during the Charlottsville protests according to the doctor/coroner? Was she fat? Was she Antifa? If the anwers are yes, yes and heart attack, my answer is: She was a fat Antifa bitch, who didnt deserve to die from a car crash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runenwächter View Post
    What I describe is happening. Evidence of these occurences is on youtube or if purged on your friendly mirror sites. Just because not every incident is a false accusation doesnt mean they dont happen with alarming frequency. It isnt lending credibility to your argument if you flat out deny this ever happens rather than adress it.
    Now, regarding your argument -Are you refering to one group doing all these things or several groups each doing one of these things? That looks like racial supremacist and totalitarian stuff and the similarity to nazis is apparent to me too because national socialism has these traits but I dont see how these things are either nationalist or socialist.

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    1.) Why would I do that?
    2.) Dishonest argument. You cite examples where there is evidence present, the accused being caught red handed so to speak, I refer specifically to events where evidence is NOT presentm but the power lies in the accusation and uncritical acceptance of the peer group. I made that very clear. For the record: Fuck people burning down businesses in general but especially if its over something like the race of the business owner. I am not even going to comment on the jew thing, it is as degenerate as it is old. And old it is.
    3.) I've only heard that one person died and have no information about further details. What was the cause of death of the woman who died in the vehicle assault during the Charlottsville protests according to the doctor/coroner? Was she fat? Was she Antifa? If the anwers are yes, yes and heart attack, my answer is: She was a fat Antifa bitch, who didnt deserve to die from a car crash.
    Do your only “evidence” is hypotheticals. Please provide actual evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stomination View Post
    Spanish Civil war did have a communist group fighting in it.
    Yes, and they supported the legitimate democratic republic.

  8. #628
    I don't have any problem with killing Nazis in a game, same way I had no issue at all with a game putting bullets in communists like Homefront.

    Fighting both Nazis and Communists is the right thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atsawin26 View Post
    I don't have any problem with killing Nazis in a game, same way I had no issue at all with a game putting bullets in communists like Homefront.

    Fighting both Nazis and Communists is the right thing to do.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedo...s_(video_game)

    I loved the game, too bad the sequel never came out.

  10. #630
    Are people just playing dumb about this or are they really that dumb?

    The issue is not killing true authentic 100% Nazis.

    The issue is declaring everyone on the right to be Nazis and then declaring that killing them is A-OK.

    Bethesda is declaring the latter, that Trump and by extension his supporters, and really anyone on the right is a Nazi. Now that's fine, if you support that, but I sure as hell don't. This is the kind of talk that leads to civil war, when we stop having political disagreements and start having violent disagreements.

    A perfect corollary would be declaring all Hillary or Bernie supporters to be Communists and then saying that it's OK to kill Communists. How is this suppose to end well for America?

    But maybe that is what people really want in the deepest, darkest pits of their souls: a nice big civil war where lots of people get killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxsins View Post
    Are people just playing dumb about this or are they really that dumb?

    The issue is not killing true authentic 100% Nazis.

    The issue is declaring everyone on the right to be Nazis and then declaring that killing them is A-OK.

    Bethesda is declaring the latter, that Trump and by extension his supporters, and really anyone on the right is a Nazi. Now that's fine, if you support that, but I sure as hell don't. This is the kind of talk that leads to civil war, when we stop having political disagreements and start having violent disagreements.

    A perfect corollary would be declaring all Hillary or Bernie supporters to be Communists and then saying that it's OK to kill Communists. How is this suppose to end well for America?

    But maybe that is what people really want in the deepest, darkest pits of their souls: a nice big civil war where lots of people get killed.
    How in the fuck did you come to this conclusion from them using trumps meme for advertising?

  12. #632
    They should make the next WoW expansion about slaying Nazi's in America. It's so topical and interesting, and I'm totally not tired of hearing it.

  13. #633
    Quote Originally Posted by urasim View Post
    Corrected the miscommunication with a clarification. Words have meaning, and I'm not wrong with what I stated.
    It's beyond clear that you're the one struggling with the reading comprehension by now.

    Good to know for future discussions. One can expect you to come in, misunderstand, angle shit and try to get people to admit that THEY are in the wrong and not you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    It amazes me that people can be so butt hurt about wanting to kill virtual Nazis. It amazes me more that people actually want to defend Nazis of any sort, both new and old.
    Or that they try to place Nazis among other right-wing political groups so as to try and dilute the issue. I know plenty of right-wing people. They all hate Nazis with a passion.

    It's the same as how nowadays, everything involving Nazis, must also be balanced with "but the COMMUNISTS!"...
    A Nazi is a Nazi, there's no reason to extenuate them. A rabid Tumblrina calling someone "Literally Hitler!!" doesn't exactly reflect reality, nor does it excuse the real ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewdest View Post
    They should make the next WoW expansion about slaying Nazi's in America. It's so topical and interesting, and I'm totally not tired of hearing it.
    But Wolfenstien has always been about killing nazi's. That's why I am puzzled people are mad about this now? The last game came out like four years ago... and no one had an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxsins View Post
    Are people just playing dumb about this or are they really that dumb?

    The issue is not killing true authentic 100% Nazis.

    The issue is declaring everyone on the right to be Nazis and then declaring that killing them is A-OK.

    Bethesda is declaring the latter, that Trump and by extension his supporters, and really anyone on the right is a Nazi. Now that's fine, if you support that, but I sure as hell don't. This is the kind of talk that leads to civil war, when we stop having political disagreements and start having violent disagreements.

    A perfect corollary would be declaring all Hillary or Bernie supporters to be Communists and then saying that it's OK to kill Communists. How is this suppose to end well for America?

    But maybe that is what people really want in the deepest, darkest pits of their souls: a nice big civil war where lots of people get killed.
    Wait you say Bethesda are declaring everyone on the right nazi's......how the hell did you come to that conclusion, they're just using Trumps campaign slogan, which became a meme, as an advertising line, there's no deeper meaning to it, it's literary the plot of of the damn game, kick the nazi's out of the US.
    It's just like when Obama was president, you see variations of "Yes we can" everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxsins View Post
    Are people just playing dumb about this or are they really that dumb?

    The issue is not killing true authentic 100% Nazis.

    The issue is declaring everyone on the right to be Nazis and then declaring that killing them is A-OK.

    Bethesda is declaring the latter, that Trump and by extension his supporters, and really anyone on the right is a Nazi. Now that's fine, if you support that, but I sure as hell don't. This is the kind of talk that leads to civil war, when we stop having political disagreements and start having violent disagreements.

    A perfect corollary would be declaring all Hillary or Bernie supporters to be Communists and then saying that it's OK to kill Communists. How is this suppose to end well for America?

    But maybe that is what people really want in the deepest, darkest pits of their souls: a nice big civil war where lots of people get killed.
    Wolfenstein is not doing that, you're trying to hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Algy View Post
    How in the fuck did you come to this conclusion from them using trumps meme for advertising?
    Something to do with this:

    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

  18. #638
    People actually defending Nazi's... Sad.

  19. #639
    This has nothing to do with "Angry Nazis". They are using a parody of Trump's campaign slogan and thereby invoking an association between Trump (and his supporters) and Nazis, perhaps this would have gone over better if there weren't people trying to push the narrative that all Republicans are nazis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kcin14 View Post
    This has nothing to do with "Angry Nazis". They are using a parody of Trump's campaign slogan and thereby invoking an association between Trump (and his supporters) and Nazis, perhaps this would have gone over better if there weren't people trying to push the narrative that all Republicans are nazis.
    They're not "invoking" anything. Trump is using the white supremacists playbook to start another civil war.

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