Trump Administration Set to Roll Back Birth Control Mandate (edit: Just did)

[Allybeboba]

Well, that's good... Satan!!! (your post count is 6066 )

Natas to you.
Mr. Satan to others.

[LaserSharkDFB]

As usual, the right gets the entire issue completely fucking wrong. They don't care - and conspicuously never even acknowledge - that birth control medication has other effects than its primary one. Remember Sandra Fluke? Remember when Rush Limbaugh engaged in character assassination against her just because she spoke out on this subject on behalf of her friend? "OH SHE WANTS FREE BIRTH CONTROL SHE MUST BE A GIANT SLUT BLR BLR BLR" No. They just wanted it treated like every other prescription medicine you can get, and there's no logical reason not to do so.

This is part and parcel with the right's fanatical objection to abortion. All their claims fall flat when subjected to logical examination. It's all about punishing the poors/minorities for having sex. That's all it is and all it's ever been: a deep-seated and unthinking objection to the thought of the lesser people not suffering enough.

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As usual, the right gets the entire issue completely fucking wrong. They don't care - and conspicuously never even acknowledge - that birth control medication has other effects than its primary one. Remember Sandra Fluke? Remember when Rush Limbaugh engaged in character assassination against her just because she spoke out on this subject on behalf of her friend? "OH SHE WANTS FREE BIRTH CONTROL SHE MUST BE A GIANT SLUT BLR BLR BLR" No. They just wanted it treated like every other prescription medicine you can get, and there's no logical reason not to do so.

This is part and parcel with the right's fanatical objection to abortion. All their claims fall flat when subjected to logical examination. It's all about punishing the poors/minorities for having sex. That's all it is and all it's ever been: a deep-seated and unthinking objection to the thought of the lesser people not suffering enough.

Actually it's about making sure people start families. Making contraceptives harder to get ensures more babies.

Why should we aid people in fucking us over by not breeding? If you wanna be slutting around and not start a family as you should, pay for it.

[LaserSharkDFB]

Actually it's about making sure people start families. Making contraceptives harder to get ensures more babies.

Why should we aid people in fucking us over by not breeding? If you wanna be slutting around and not start a family as you should, pay for it.

Thanks for proving my point. It's not about making sure people start families, because if it were the right would be all about supporting said families. Which they absolutely are not. It's the usual right-wing contradiction: make it harder to avoid having an unwanted child, yet never make it easier to raise one. And why do you care if people are 'slutting around'? It's none of your damn business unless, as I pointed out, you actually just want the 'lesser people' to suffer for not having money or being the wrong color (usually both).

And again, what about the non-contraceptive functions of birth control? You left that part out, I notice.

[Poopymonster]

What are the ill effects of not getting free birth control? Like, you’ll have to pay for it like condoms?

Hormonal birth control pills can be used to treat things other than the STD called a KID . Regulating hormone imbalances being a major one.

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[Vankrys]

Actually it's about making sure people start families. Making contraceptives harder to get ensures more babies.

Why should we aid people in fucking us over by not breeding? If you wanna be slutting around and not start a family as you should, pay for it.

and why is having many babies so important?
where the constitution is it said that the government should enforce a forceful procreation.

Responsible and planned parenthood is a staple of modern civilization. Republican party ideas are so backward.

[Dead Moose Fandango]

Actually it's about making sure people start families. Making contraceptives harder to get ensures more babies.

Why should we aid people in fucking us over by not breeding? If you wanna be slutting around and not start a family as you should, pay for it.

Why should we care about whether other people have kids or not while having sex? Should we also care if two people get married, have lots of sex, but adopt instead of bearing children from their own loins?

Sorry, really, it doesn't matter. Despite the name, birth control isn't just for controlling birth as so many other posters pointed out.

But hey, I get it. You get confused by the name. I did too, at first. We ought to make government change the name! That way, innocents like the two of us will never be frustrated by that confusing name again.

[Templar 331]

Why should we aid people in fucking us over by not breeding? If you wanna be slutting around and not start a family as you should, pay for it.

You already are. Just because the government isn't mandating companies to use policies that provide birth control doesn't mean that the insurance companies don't already provide that coverage for others.

If you have insurance you are still paying for birth control for others if your insurance company has a policy involving it.

[Mormolyce]

Note that he made this change on the anniversary of the Access Hollywood tape scandal.

Grab them by the ovaries?

[Felya]

Natas to you.
Mr. Satan to others.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_Days_(film)

... I'll save you the pain of watching by spoiling the twist... but, will black it out for those who like to cut them selfs, but are looking for a cleaner alternative. The twist is that 666 was seen upside down, the real mark of the beast is 999.

Redrum... redrum!!!

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Note that he made this change on the anniversary of the Access Hollywood tape scandal.

Grab them by the ovaries?

Damn! Even happenstance is a never Trump...

[Glorious Leader]

You should probably educate yourself on the matter. Guys don't need condoms for health reasons.

To be fair sexual and reproductive health insurance SHOULD cover condoms as well as part of a broad package. Yes birth control has additional functions beyond preventing pregnancy but that's okay as well. Condoms can prevent the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases in addition to stopping pregnancies. It should all be covered honestly.

[Poopymonster]

To be fair sexual and reproductive health insurance SHOULD cover condoms as well as part of a broad package. Yes birth control has additional functions beyond preventing pregnancy but that's okay as well. Condoms can prevent the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases in addition to stopping pregnancies. It should all be covered honestly.

But if we do that, then our precious innocent babies will know about sex. And we can't have that. That'll lead to our children having sex all the time. Which leads to STDs and Pregnancies. Which leads to registries, which leads to national databases, which leads to FEMA camps.

Sorry, I always forget which slippery slope the GOP is crying doom about.

[Theodarzna]

But at least Viagra is still covered! Right fellas?

Well I mean Viagra and hormonal birth control pills are an apples to oranges comparison, but okay.

[LaserSharkDFB]

Well I mean Viagra and hormonal birth control pills are an apples to oranges comparison, but okay.

Yes, in that Viagra is not something that is required to maintain physical health.

[Theodarzna]

Yes, in that Viagra is not something that is required to maintain physical health.

Neither is hormonal BC, considering neither have existed for very long and here we are. I personally don't take BC because of what it does to my system.

The major difference is the biological process of pregnancy is actually your uterus working normally. Ones penis not being able to get erect is something not working normally.

[LaserSharkDFB]

Neither is hormonal BC, considering neither have existed for very long and here we are. I personally don't take BC because of what it does to my system.

The major difference is the biological process of pregnancy is actually your uterus working normally. Ones penis not being able to get erect is something not working normally.

Y'know what, because I like to be accurate in my posts, I did a search on the medical uses for both HBC and Viagra, and I was surprised to find that the boner pills can indeed be used for something else.

https://youngwomenshealth.org/2011/1...-control-pill/

https://www.accessrx.com/blog/erecti...at-besides-ed/

On the basis of this, I change my position and refute your original claim. Both of them can be used to treat several different symptoms and disorders, which puts them on an even playing field. HBC is not just for birth control, and Viagra is not just for getting it up. Therefore, they should be treated equally under the law.

[Theodarzna]

Y'know what, because I like to be accurate in my posts, I did a search on the medical uses for both HBC and Viagra, and I was surprised to find that the boner pills can indeed be used for something else.

https://youngwomenshealth.org/2011/1...-control-pill/

https://www.accessrx.com/blog/erecti...at-besides-ed/

On the basis of this, I change my position and refute your original claim. Both of them can be used to treat several different symptoms and disorders, which puts them on an even playing field. HBC is not just for birth control, and Viagra is not just for getting it up. Therefore, they should be treated equally under the law.

Yes, but ultimately HBC is for preventing the biological function of your body where as the other is explicitly for restoring a biological function.

[LaserSharkDFB]

Yes, but ultimately HBC is for preventing the biological function of your body where as the other is explicitly for restoring a biological function.

Immunosuppresants are also for preventing the biological function of your body; specifically, the way your system rejects transplanted organs. Should those be uncovered by insurance as well?

Besides, the primary function of birth control is to prevent an unwanted medical condition. The fact that the condition in question is a natural process doesn't make a damn bit of difference.

[Theodarzna]

Immunosuppresants are also for preventing the biological function of your body; specifically, the way your system rejects transplanted organs. Should those be uncovered by insurance as well?

Besides, the primary function of birth control is to prevent an unwanted medical condition. The fact that the condition in question is a natural process doesn't make a damn bit of difference.

Perhaps, but it is curious that one likely won't die from their uterus working as planned versus an organ transplant going awry.

[Player Twelve]

Actually it's about making sure people start families. Making contraceptives harder to get ensures more babies.

Why should we aid people in fucking us over by not breeding? If you wanna be slutting around and not start a family as you should, pay for it.

What that's doing is making more women resort to abortion.