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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    You believe three violent groups one a goverment with a active army and two using gorilla tactics with one of those considering everyone not them a enemy and willing to die in attacks would not lead to bloodshed?

    My poor summer child... winter is coming.
    You don't get to complain about bloodshed, when that is exactly what you want. Since I don't support authoritarianism, I'm going to oppose them all. How are you any different than the Nazis and radical Muslims? You are a warmongering national socialist who wants to significantly limit freedoms and murder innocent people. You sure sound like a Nazi to me.

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Fitheach View Post
    We need some intense Anti-Racist action in Denmark and to set that population's head correctly into Non-Racist thought.
    Maybe we should start with those countries with really serious violations not a country that just wants to ban a head gear... You know start with those countries that stone women because they drive a car or their husband wants a divorce?

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by Ishayu View Post
    So only physical harm matters, then? Slander, libel, destroying someone's reputation unfairly, cheating in an election system, filing fraudulent economic reports, and so on - these are all permitted because to not permit it is a violation of freedom, because it does not cause physical harm?

    I think you've been listening to too many libertarian braodcasts, buddy. Life is more complicated than that.

    On the subject of slavery, obviously slavery isn't freedom. However, under your rules slavery is perfectly fine. You say that anyone should be able to do whatever they personally want as long as it doesn't cause physical harm - so what you're saying is that it's okay for someone to sell their services for the rest of their lives in exchange for food and lodging? That is literally slavery.

    My argument is that there should be laws above this person that actively prevents him from making this decision.

    If we believe that something should be beyond the possibility of majority rule, which is a perfectly reasonable request, then we write it into a law that is specially protected under the constitution to make it something that cannot be changed unless a HUGE majority votes in favour of changing it, such as 80%, or even to make it impossible to change at all, ever, for any reason. In other words, changing that law would require a revolution, with all that that entails.

    I agree with you that there should be laws like that, and slavery is a good candidate, but by doing this we've actually restricted the ability for someone to choose to sign away their work hours for life. I know that seems like a twisted argument, but it's nevertheless true. To broadly protect freedom, we must restruct it in some key ways.

    As far as us forcing our culture onto others - look, I live in Denmark. In Denmark, the Danish rule. If you don't like how we rule it, you have the unequivical right to GET THE **** OUT. I don't give a ****. There are thousands of places all over the world where people agree with whoever you are, but it ain't here.
    I didn't say only physical harm matters, I said it's much easier to determine, and involves far less subjectivity.

    Under my rules, slavery is not perfectly fine. It's forced submission of one person by another. Since I'm anti-authoritarian, I'm not sure how you can possibly say that I would support it. The entire act of personal imprisonment is a restriction of freedom. Like I have shown, I do not support such things.

    Like I said, I don't support authoritarian rule. The desire to force your culture onto others is authoritarian, and decidedly anti-freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    Maybe we should start with those countries with really serious violations not a country that just wants to ban a head gear... You know start with those countries that stone women because they drive a car or their husband wants a divorce?
    Why not try opposing both?

  4. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post

    Why not try opposing both?
    There are only a certain number of resources involved and one is a more serious offense than the other.

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    I have a religion that demands of me run around naked, but I'm not allowed to do that.

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    You don't get to complain about bloodshed, when that is exactly what you want. Since I don't support authoritarianism, I'm going to oppose them all. How are you any different than the Nazis and radical Muslims? You are a warmongering national socialist who wants to significantly limit freedoms and murder innocent people. You sure sound like a Nazi to me.
    I accept bloodshed as a grim necessity. You speak of a endless war... your ideals are not seemingly compatible with reality. Sadly I must go so will leave it with that.

  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    There are only a certain number of resources involved and one is a more serious offense than the other.
    So, what are you trying to do to solve the problem in Saudi Arabia?

    I find it entirely possible to oppose both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    I accept bloodshed as a grim necessity. You speak of a endless war... your ideals are not seemingly compatible with reality. Sadly I must go so will leave it with that.
    Sorry, I don't support the rule of Nazis and other oppressors.

    I never called for endless war, once again, you are projecting your own beliefs onto me.

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Ishayu View Post

    As far as us forcing our culture onto others - look, I live in Denmark. In Denmark, the Danish rule. If you don't like how we rule it, you have the unequivical right to GET THE **** OUT. I don't give a ****. There are thousands of places all over the world where people agree with whoever you are, but it ain't here.
    Most Danes do not agree with above statement so sorry, you need to leave Denmark.

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    The problem with the liberal mindset in regards to immigration, is many are so far left leaning they want to be so overly progressive that they depend their own lot conform to the idea of only focusing on bringing people from third world countries in, all the problems they feel within their own country, but almost never looking at how these immigrants coming over think and act themselves.

    And when you call them out of this and make example such as saying okay, these people can move here, but they need to adopt a westernized attitude and not flood in their middle eastern theocracies and laws that don't belong in the west, thats when said far left consider you the bad guy for even suggesting there's something incomparable between the west and middle eastern cultures.
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  10. #230
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everwake View Post
    It doesn't matter what the Danes want, only what Islam wants. Why bother taking a poll at all?
    Wait what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelk View Post
    Telling women what to wear is bad, telling women what not to wear is good.
    Yes! Why is this even a question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitheach View Post
    We need some intense Anti-Racist action in Denmark and to set that population's head correctly into Non-Racist thought.
    Well over here it's banned for public safety. Why does it have to be a racist issue?

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    I usually wouldn't agree with this kind of thing, but i think that it's important to take a stand.

    When on someone else's house, you have to respect their customs, not the other way around. You always have a choice to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Najnaj View Post
    Most Danes do not agree with above statement so sorry, you need to leave Denmark.
    It would appear that most Danes do, however, agree with the statement that wearing burqas/niqabs should not be allowed in public. Which, in a way, connects to what Ishayu wrote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    It's a violation of their First Amendment rights.
    Sarcasm right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    How does beef cause harm?
    Spoken like a true infidel who has never had meat sweats.
    I may pay my subscription every month, but I don't lose sight of the fact that the other 4/9/24/39 people I'm grouped with pay too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilist74 View Post
    How did the ban work in France, didn't they implement a ban on burka's?
    Yes, so do we here in Belgium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus View Post
    Spoken like a true infidel who has never had meat sweats.
    LMAO
    /10 charts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Najnaj View Post
    Wearing Gods special hat = sad

    Believing you have the right to tell people what they can and can not wear = terrifying

    Notice how one of the options is far worse than the other?
    Nowhere in the Qur'an is a ninja outfit stated.
    If you are going to cover your face expect people to be sceptic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    Maybe we should start with those countries with really serious violations not a country that just wants to ban a head gear... You know start with those countries that stone women because they drive a car or their husband wants a divorce?
    Not to talk about what happens when they get raped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
    I usually wouldn't agree with this kind of thing, but i think that it's important to take a stand.

    When on someone else's house, you have to respect their customs, not the other way around. You always have a choice to leave.
    But then you get the respond that they were born here.
    So that choice is non existing.

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus View Post
    Spoken like a true infidel who has never had meat sweats.
    I'm not sure Chipotle burritos count, but I can definitely sense some harm...

  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by Iliyra View Post
    It would appear that most Danes do, however, agree with the statement that wearing burqas/niqabs should not be allowed in public. Which, in a way, connects to what Ishayu wrote.
    What he wrote is almost exactly what I wrote (besides the level of sincerity) and it can be applied to anything and anyone.... unfortunately. Assimilate or F off is not a way we live our lives in the west, or much of the east, south and north. It is however what ISIS does...and some people in Denmark I guess.

  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, what are you trying to do to solve the problem in Saudi Arabia?

    I find it entirely possible to oppose both.

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    Sorry, I don't support the rule of Nazis and other oppressors.

    I never called for endless war, once again, you are projecting your own beliefs onto me.
    I asked you how to solve the issue... you provided no examples and started screaming nazi,nazi,nazi...

  19. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    I asked you how to solve the issue... you provided no examples and started screaming nazi,nazi,nazi...
    Actually, I said I would oppose all three. You said you would oppress everyone else with brutality. No thanks. We've seen what happens when national socialists choose to be violent and target specific groups.

    Primalmatter 2017-"Why does everyone always call me a Nazi?"

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    Like with most articles on the internet, you cannot completely trust the authors about minority and majority. In reality, most danes dont give a f*ck about this subject, as it hits less than 500 people in Denmark.

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