Majority of Danes want to ban burqa: survey

[derpkitteh]

freedom of religion should have never been included in our first amendment, only freedom from religion. i hope to see the day they do away with it entirely.

good job for banning one of the ultimate symbols of hate and oppression.

[primalmatter]

Actually, I said I would oppose all three. You said you would oppress everyone else with brutality. No thanks. We've seen what happens when national socialists choose to be violent and target specific groups.

Primalmatter 2017-"Why does everyone always call me a Nazi?"

I do not trust a man with no allegiances. Abstaining from every difficult choice is not strength.

[Machismo]

I do not trust a man with no allegiances. Abstaining from every difficult choice is not strength.

I have an allegiance, one to freedom. I don't tend to trust authoritarian national socialists who want to oppress minority groups. It sounds a whole lot like Nazis to me. No thanks.

[Xarkan]

freedom of religion should have never been included in our first amendment, only freedom from religion. i hope to see the day they do away with it entirely.

good job for banning one of the ultimate symbols of hate and oppression.

Taking away the freedom of religion is simply giving bigots free reign to opress specific religions even if they do little harm, it would not make religions equal or equally unimportant. It might make them more important since if you have the wrong one (or possibly none) you could then be counted as less

[anon5123]

Well, it looks like a majority of Danes hate freedom of expression.

yeah because muslim women are actually just freely expressing themselves, covering their bodies up

totally not being forced to do it by their religion

mm-mm, nope, not at all

[Xarkan]

yeah because muslim women are actually just freely expressing themselves, covering their bodies up

totally not being forced to do it by their religion

mm-mm, nope, not at all

They are not being forced to do it by their religion but they are generally speaking also not freely doing it

Their cultural interpreation of the religion demands it so.

Had it been the religion then a niqab/burqa ban would affect more people even in Denmark

There may however be converts who choose a more conservative version of the culture/religion set and freely go for burqa / niqab which would then in their cases make it a potential freedom of expression issue

There seems to be just about zero reason to assume this kind of law would make anyone stop wearing burqa or niqab outside.. except maybe as a mathematical joke about it being true everytime they are outside that that they wear no burqa or niqab. They'd just not come outside. It seems to be to move something out of sight not remove opression.

[HolgerDK]

This kind of stuff is very common in law all over the world. Something is already illegal and nothing is being done about it by the police. The law is thus forgotten, and another is added to the books to keep the public eye on the issue and keep the police on their toes.

This is a great example of that happening. In fact, there's so much of the stuff that the immigrants are doing that is completely illegal, that frankly I don't understand why we're even discussing the merits of them. Nevermind the fact that many of them came here illegally, they then proceed to do all sorts of nasty things like this.

The burqa is something that is mandated by men for women to wear, and is punishable by 4 years in prison, as you state, but unfortunately the women will insist that they're doing it of their own free will because their partners force them to do that, too.

What we have to do is shut down the mosques impowering these men, which are by the way doing a ton of illegal stuff as well, and then we can hopefully get the women to come forward.

The danish police doesnt forget to uphold certain laws, they had their hands full being forced to play borderpolice by DFs/Inger Støjbergs ridiculous demands, and guarding certain places in Copenhagen.

This attempt at banning burqas/niqabs isnt because DF wants to help muslim women escape social control (they dont give a shit about those people). If they wanted to do that, then they would be telling the rest of Denmark about paragraph 260, piece 3 instead of working for a new ban.

Your accusations against all immigrants ("there's so much of the stuff that the immigrants are doing") are at the very least a gross exaggeration.

We are not gonna shut down mosques, because we have religious freedom covered by the danish constitution.

[Strangewayes]

too little too late probably

[Xarkan]

too little too late probably

Theresa Corbin is
A) Not Danish
B) Not wearing a garment that would be covered by the suggested law

How then is she relevant?

[Djuntas]

Hi all, as a dane, we call them ghosts and they usually reside only in ghetto's.

Also halloween is a thing but not much.

[Strangewayes]

Theresa Corbin is
A) Not Danish
B) Not wearing a garment that would be covered by the suggested law

How then is she relevant?

*whooooosh*

[HumbleDuck]

So no lich king cosplays for you Danes.

[Xarkan]

*whooooosh*

So basically she is relevant because you have some religiophobia and want to share?

There is a world between burqa and what she is wearing and she is freely choosing to wear it

She is not being suppressed by the patriarchy or whatever

[pateuvasiliu]

So does Denmark have a serious crime problem coming from people in burqas?

No, but clothes that hide your face should be banned. They also make hiding weapons pretty easy.

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freedom of religion should have never been included in our first amendment, only freedom from religion. i hope to see the day they do away with it entirely.

good job for banning one of the ultimate symbols of hate and oppression.

Religion has done more good for mankind than it's done bad.

You have to be some serious edgelord to spout that drivel.

[Ahovv]

No, but clothes that hide your face should be banned. They also make hiding weapons pretty easy.

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Religion has done more good for mankind than it's done bad.

You have to be some serious edgelord to spout that drivel.

Well, you said something pretty stupid. But I'm not allowed to refute it since that would be religion-bashing which allegedly is not allowed here.

[pateuvasiliu]

Well, you said something pretty stupid. But I'm not allowed to refute it since that would be religion-bashing which allegedly is not allowed here.

Muh dark age. Muh jihad.

Do you have any idea how many scientific advances and schools were made due to religion?

All this '' religion is evul '' crap comes from edgy internet atheists with no grip on real life.


You think terrorists wouldn't still blow shit up if they weren't religious? People are just savages, it has nothing to do with whether they believe in Allah or God or nothing.

Hitler and Stalin were both atheists ( don't give me the crap about Hitler being in league with the Church, he was an atheist, read his books ) and killed far more than Religion ever did.

[Ahovv]

Muh dark age. Muh jihad.

Do you have any idea how many scientific advances and schools were made due to religion?

It's against the forum rules to refute you, so please move away from the topic of religion

[Trollhammer]

It's against the forum rules to refute you, so please move away from the topic of religion

Sounds like a cop out to me.

Those are two separate, noncontradictory ideas. Of course I can criticize both.

1) Religion is bad, and factually not true.
2) Wanting to associate with these factually untrue belief systems is moronic.

I get that it's good some people are removing the worst parts of the religions, like slavery. Good job, you're not a slaver. But you're still associating with that belief system in some way. What's the point? Certainly not a good point. And thus I will criticize it.

[Crispin]

Useless symbol politics tbf, it wont help integration or prevent attacks.

And now the Danish People’s party wants to ban headscarfs in schools, next up they’ll probably ban dark skin colour and Humus.

[Ahovv]

Sounds like a cop out to me.

Yeah, and then mods come in warning people/locking threads when it gets out of hand.

So you think because I disagree I should just argue it at every single opportunity and get banned? What a great suggestion!

I'll gladly debate religion in PMs or on Discord. But I've been warned plenty of times to stop doing it here.