Imperial Wizard Denied Bail After Shooting at Counter-Protesters

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

Oh, please. He clearly aimed it away from people. You're acting as if he shot into the thick of the crowd like Las Vegas.

By the way, some "racist as fuck KKK member" approaching you is not grounds to shoot a fucking flamethrower at them. You know, especially when it's their event.

Morons like the KKK should be ignored or mocked, not taken seriously by protesting and bringing weapons. It's still funny that people are that afraid of them.

Should I cower in fear at the next Communist Party USA meeting? Is that a serious threat to society? What about a meeting of flat earthers? Or anti-abortion religious zealots?

White supremacist have actually ended lives there is a reason to be wary. They've tried to bomb apartment builds but the authorities stop them they're a threat stop trying to down play them.

[Ahovv]

White supremacist have actually ended lives there is a reason to be wary. They tried to bomb apartment builds but the authorities stop them they're a threat stop trying to down play them.

Yeah, and 15,000 people die in the US each year for varying reasons. White supremacists don't kill nearly enough for me to particularly care about them. Obviously if there is a particular group of them planning violence, put them in prison. Run the investigation and prosecute them.

But you guys act like every ignorant fuck who says nigger a hundred times a day is destined to murder you. It's overreacting.

Ignore these idiots and go about your day. Some neo-Nazi or otherwise KKK or white supremacist rally shouldn't ruin your day or make you feel compelled to seriously protest and fight them, bringing weapons as well. That's just...not intelligent.

And again, since these forums are filled with paranoid idiots who see the alt-right everywhere, I would have this same reaction to some anarchist or communist rally. The most effort I would put into caring would be mocking and ridicule. I wouldn't go to the event with weapons and armor, poking and prodding for a fight. At best I would spend a few minutes trolling/laughing at them.

But no, everyone has to be so afraid of these Neo-Nazis that they really grant them more power than they actually hold.

[Logwyn]

Yeah, and 15,000 people die in the US each year for varying reasons.

More like 2,626,418.

[Ahovv]

More like 2,626,418.

I meant murders. Other deaths are irrelevant to my point, sorry for not clarifying.

[Sliske]

Yeah. Shoving isn't extremely violent but is still assault. Just like trying to set people on fire is a criminal move.

It's just really depressing to watch people downplay this when holding a fucking tiki torch is essentially murder to those same people.

In order to be a far left ideologue (or far right) you need to not just flirt with hypocrisy, but fucking marry it and make it your deity. There is no logical way to actually reach the far left or the far right. At one point or another you will have to be hypocritical as fuck.

The concept of 'live and let live' is absurd to these people. These are the types of people that refuse to watch a movie because one of the actors in it once said a naughty word , as if that effects the movie in any way at all.

Just cancer. Cancer in human form. Cancer made political.

I see a great deal of similarity between these kinds of people and those suffering from Anton-Babinski Syndrome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton%...inski_syndrome

The difference is that the above is fucking brain damage. In short, these are blind people that INSIST they can see. They will go out of their way to make excuses for it.

How many fingers am I holding up?
- "2"
I was actually holding up 3
- "Oh , well I don't have my glasses and the lighting is a bit bad."

Are all white people racist?
- "yes"
What is racism?
- "its when you generalise and discriminate based on race"
So something like "all white people are racist" , yes?
- "No"
Is white a race?
- "Yes"
Do you generalise all white people?
- "Yes"
Do you discriminate against white people?
- "Yes"
But you aren't a racist?
- "No, you can't be racist towards white people."
Oh for fuck sake.

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[Daedius]

KKK D&D Wizard ?

[Mehrunes]

KKK D&D Wizard ?

The class to be added in the incoming revision.

[Sky High]

Oh geez, a can of WD40, how horrifying.

[Dextroden]

In order to be a far left ideologue (or far right) you need to not just flirt with hypocrisy, but fucking marry it and make it your deity. There is no logical way to actually reach the far left or the far right. At one point or another you will have to be hypocritical as fuck.

The concept of 'live and let live' is absurd to these people. These are the types of people that refuse to watch a movie because one of the actors in it once said a naughty word , as if that effects the movie in any way at all.

Just cancer. Cancer in human form. Cancer made political.

I see a great deal of similarity between these kinds of people and those suffering from Anton-Babinski Syndrome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton%...inski_syndrome

The difference is that the above is fucking brain damage. In short, these are blind people that INSIST they can see. They will go out of their way to make excuses for it.

"How many fingers am I holding up?"
- 2
"I was actually holding up 3"
- Oh , well I don't have my glasses and the lighting is a bit bad.

"Are all white people racist?"
- yes
"What is racism?"
- its when you generalise and discriminate based on race
"So something like "all white people are racist" , yes?"
- No

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Yeah. I guess I should get used to that since not fighting is the worse option.

For restating purposes. Both of those idiots broke the law and deserve their punishment. If we could just keep it at angry yelling, we could avoid more of this garbage. And no matter what. If someone attacks someone else, immediate police action. Nazis are garbage with garbage opinions. Unfortunately, as long as they don't break the law, they get to have their idiotic marches. That also applies to people yelling them out of town. Don't break any laws and you can piss all over their cause and take pictures.

[Mehrunes]

And from this, you and this fuckwit, in your genius, concluded that hes not only an alt right racist trump voter but also a liar who went out of his way to answer 20 minute political compasses just so he can PULL ONE OVER ON YA XDDD

You have a plethora of posts to chose from. Every single one of them is anti violence and the majority of them call the KKK stupid. This is how deep your bias goes, you're so far to the left that you can't even remember what centrists or rational thinking whatsoever, actually is. Its white fucking noise to you.

I'm telling you you're wrong, i'm telling you you're projecting your near constant state of lying to yourself onto other people and i'm challenging you to prove what you are saying.

Prove to me, in detail, how someone anti violence except in defense and anti bigoty and anti confrontation for the sake of confrontation, is some how not



you have stared into the abyss too long, and now you are the thing you hate. You are dogmatic, impulsive, bigoted and ignorant.

Grow the fuck up.

Pretty great post all around. But in regards to the second paragraph, Ahov's far, faaaar from centrist as per their political compass (though I suppose you aimed the rational part at them more). So at first glance it'd be more along the way "not as left as me". Except when you look at it closely, it's not even that, given how Ahov's result was libertarian socialist. There's very few things further to the left than that. So unless they (you forgot to include Nexx) are communists or left wing anarchists, it's actually "not left in the exact same way as me". The apotheosis of that line of thought on MMO-C is PosPosPos, who calls anyone that disagrees with him on any topic whatsoever, no matter how not relevant to left-right divide it is, a Trump supporter. To the point he called that even Elba (not only is Elba German, but in case you are not aware of him, calling Elba's social views "progressive" or "left wing" would be rather undercutting it). Because Elba had laissez faire views in regards to the extremely partisan topic of net neutrality.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

Yeah, and 15,000 people die in the US each year for varying reasons. White supremacists don't kill nearly enough for me to particularly care about them. Obviously if there is a particular group of them planning violence, put them in prison. Run the investigation and prosecute them.

But you guys act like every ignorant fuck who says nigger a hundred times a day is destined to murder you. It's overreacting.

Ignore these idiots and go about your day. Some neo-Nazi or otherwise KKK or white supremacist rally shouldn't ruin your day or make you feel compelled to seriously protest and fight them, bringing weapons as well. That's just...not intelligent.

And again, since these forums are filled with paranoid idiots who see the alt-right everywhere, I would have this same reaction to some anarchist or communist rally. The most effort I would put into caring would be mocking and ridicule. I wouldn't go to the event with weapons and armor, poking and prodding for a fight. At best I would spend a few minutes trolling/laughing at them.

But no, everyone has to be so afraid of these Neo-Nazis that they really grant them more power than they actually hold.

Then why post on here at all and why post in this thread if you don't care... I prefer to fix problems rather than ignore them ignoring them has a history of not working. I don't fear every racist but I know some of them will murder people over there believes and skin color. I also don't try equalize both sides, I just call them out on there bullshit. Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away and I don't condone the violence either but ignoring a problem is a childish response.

How did this ruin my day, I've spent 10 seconds writing a response and protesting also shows them how small they're. I don't agree with the violence but I won't downplay or deflect either all extremist are a threat. I hate them all equally. No, protesting works it's why the civil rights movements was successful but the violence is the problem. They're dangerous any extremist is a danger and ignoring them doesn't help.

[Ahovv]

Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away and I don't condone the violence either but ignoring a problems is a childish response.

Issues should be debated in a free society. However, when it comes legitimate Neo-Nazis and members of the KKK, there's not much of a point in trying for a rational debate. So you should mock and ridicule them, at best.

"Protesting" them en masse just draws more unwarranted media attention and the potential for violent clashes between groups.

Seriously, think about it for a moment. Imagine going out just to protest a group of people because you dislike what they're saying. What do you actually hope to achieve? I've seen negative consequences from protesting these extremist groups. I have not seen positive results. That is why I don't see a good reason to protest.

Mock and ridicule, sure. Legitimately protest and prepare to fight? No, that's fucking retarded and just draws more media attention to their pathetic cause.

"Doing nothing" as far as I can tell, has a more positive impact. Let them die out.

[Cerus]

Guns are NEVER (as in never) used for self defense, almost always it's to intimidate people. Get rid of them.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/f...nse-gun-use-2/

Really? 0/10 troll attempt. I guess all those police reports of armed citizens taking out bad guys are fake eh? Like the mother hold up in her attic that is forced to fire at the thugs breaking through the door. Or the young man who killed three burglars who broke into his home in broad daylight.

Proper training teaches you that if you have cause to draw your weapon then you USE said weapon. Never draw just to scare, intimidate or fire a warning shot. Aim for center mass and don’t stop firing until the threat is stopped.

[frogger237]

God what a lame ass Imperial Wizard. That's not my Imperial Wizard, this is my Imperial Wizard:

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

Issues should be debated in a free society. However, when it comes legitimate Neo-Nazis and members of the KKK, there's not much of a point in trying for a rational debate. So you should mock and ridicule them, at best.

"Protesting" them en masse just draws more unwarranted media attention and the potential for violent clashes between groups.

Seriously, think about it for a moment. Imagine going out just to protest a group of people because you dislike what they're saying. What do you actually hope to achieve? I've seen negative consequences from protesting these extremist groups. I have not seen positive results. That is why I don't see a good reason to protest.

Mock and ridicule, sure. Legitimately protest and prepare to fight? No, that's fucking retarded and just draws more media attention to their pathetic cause.

They would've gotten media attention without the protesters and they have before. Showing them that they're a fringe group and that your side represents more people. Protesting works because the media usually starts doing a dick measuring with the crowd size which is reassuring or demoralizing depending which the group you represent.

They regrouped and there numbers were smaller and I think that's because of the controversy but no protesters showed up and they still got media attention. They've also been kicked off some website hosting places and a couple have lost there jobs.etc it has an effect. The violence is wrong and you should be able to protest in a first world country without being assaulted.

The most successful smear campaigns in history aren't violent they just show you how fucked up the other side is like the daily storm's artical on the women who died in the protest.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/08/us/cha...lly/index.html

[Allybeboba]

Ya some Nazis were threatening him and an old defenseless man with sticks. So he's defending himself and the old guy.

Is that guy lost?

[Video Games]

I mean is there any pictures other than this, cus i see a flame in the backround. Wizard or not would any of you not draw on someone coming at you with a fucking flamethrower?

Well, i wouldnt be at a stupid protest anyway. I got games to play.

[Allybeboba]

Well, i wouldnt be at a stupid protest anyway. I got games to play.

He was attempting a level 1 fireball.

[xenogear3]

I don't think there's laws against using deodorant within 1,000 feet of a school

The gun zealots try to confuse people with "gun and hammer are the same."
Except the law disagrees.

By looking at the video, he seems got away.
The police stands there and did nothing.

Did he get arrest later on? such as at home?

[Seiklis]

Cool now throw away the key let nature take its course.

Seeing how there's a very large neo-nazi element in prisons....throwing away the key isn't gonna change much