There's already enough ilvl inflation over the course of an xpack, no need to pile up more. Just make Titanforging cap at the base level of the next difficulty.
There's already enough ilvl inflation over the course of an xpack, no need to pile up more. Just make Titanforging cap at the base level of the next difficulty.
Why do people who primarily do LFR need loot higher than 915? I mean it provides gear that is viable to complete that content, so why should they need anything higher than the base 915 ilvl?
I think thats the point. What purpose does gear serve for the LFR dude when all he's doing is LFR? If he decides to do more challenging content, he should be rewarded with better gear. The game shouldn't keep an incentive to continually do the easiest shit form of content, it should incent you to do harder more challenging content if gear power progression is your main goal. (which it is for the LFR ppl because all they bitch and moan about is better gear, even though they tell you they just "want to see the content" which is a complete bullshit lie)
What LFR hero feels when he gets that single 955 item lvl (if at all) per raid tier: he's happy.
What a mythic raider feels when the LFR hero gets a 955 itemlvl: My effort is totally undermined, the 0.5 less average item lvl difference is totally undermining the effort i put into leeching the loot from the work my raid leader put into organizing/recruiting/keeping the raid alive.
Let's quote the only good post in this whole thread:
Last edited by Kaesebrezen; 2017-10-15 at 04:52 PM.
See, you're just arguing something completely different for no reason. If you read the OP of this thread, he's talking about item level of RAID DIFFICULTIES and how titanforging is an issue IN THAT CONTEXT. So in that context no one does World Quests to gain gear. Anyone who raids at heroic level has a near zero chance of getting an upgrade from World Quests. I'm not arguing about alts or super casuals because that is not the context of this topic.
There are definitely good and bad sides to the current system, but the salt far outweighs the bad so let's keep it!
curious why we all have to live with the shit system of titanforging just because some people are useless friends
why do you need extra incentives to help friends? whats the point of being their friend in the first place if the game has to bribe you to want to help them?
Last edited by Dizzeeyooo; 2017-10-15 at 06:47 PM.
I think the Titanforging needs to change in a sense of only up to the next raid tier, not above it.
I cant have a friend playing 24/7 does M+ 24/7 and our only difference is 3 points on Artifact while he clears most of Mythic, and i refuse to raid anything above HC, while he has 939 equipped ilvl, and i have 936 cause i got lucky this raid with drops, it doesnt feel right.
The item should only TF up to the next HC level, like is the item 900? Either from World Boss or Normal raid? 915 Max.
Is it next raid World boss? Aka 930? 945 max, not 955.
How to fix ilvl problems:
-Get rid of multiple difficulties
-Get rid of Titan Forging
What you gain:
-Time spent balancing 4 difficulties now put into balancing flex, which is now everything. Ilvls are now just progressive throughout an individual raid instead of trying to balance the ilvls between 4 difficulties + dungeons and worrying about titanforging.
-More small raids mixed with medium/large raids, with different loot of similar ilvls to compliment each other
-You no longer have massive ilvl bloat throughout an expansion. BC was ilvls 81-164 if you include thoridal, Legion is 640-970 including legendaries or 1000 with that new one.
Win/Win
Should go the other way. Go back to Cata style, with 7 iLvls between each difficulty, and remove TFIng/socket procs.
Shouldn't have tried to fix what wasn't broken back then.
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Nope just get rid of wf/tf that will fix a lot of power issues.
But in this sense "incentive" is replace with an almost necessity. With trinkets like Whispers, Draught, CoF, etc. some people feel the need to do LFR every week even when they're 50+Ilvls higher than what it drops because a TF LFR trinket may be better than anything they can get in Mythic (other than that same trinket). the forging system is AWESOME, but needs a middleground.