Anti-antifa = fa

[VyersReaver]

Antifa saved the world in World War 2.

You'd think you'd pay some respect to those who you owe your freedom to.

That's the funniest shit I've read all day. You should do a stand-up.

[Puupi]

Anyone that attended school knows that -x minus -x is x

Anyone that attended school knows that -x - (-x) = 0.

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Anyone that attended school knows that -x - (-x) = 0.

Bbbut dude if you don't like Antifa you are big bad evil nazi.

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[Deleted]

Anyone that attended school knows that -x minus -x is x

People wouldn't listen. They said things like lolol there are no nazis you're a dangerous paranoid !!1

And now there are supremacists marching in the streets with torches nazis flags, running through crowds with their cars



I want to respect opinions but at this point if you still oppose anti fascists for preventing nazi oppression guess what maybe you're directly collaborating with these wannabe SS idiots.

Capitalism has gone way too far and the age of moderates is over deal with it

Remember ussr was merely an early draft, once capitalism inevitably destroys itself, communism will take over and fix the mistakes of greedy individualists

Didn't communism ended every time in mass starvation, lower living standarts compared to capitalist nations and totalitarion regimes under people who possess a lower level of education than your average 4chan altright troll?

I mean, I'm waiting for your great example when communism worked better than a liberal capitalistic market economy. I mean, your big communist utopia and leader russia even became capitalist when communism didn't worked out.

Show me one historical example where communist countryies did better than western capitalist nations. Even your fucking Computer or Smartphone or Tablet or whatever you use is a shining example of the pure superiority of capitalism to any other form of live.

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Wasn't real communism.

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This comment always reminds me of : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcLt-DVK2Ow

The problem with Antifa is they don't have a plan beyond showdowns.

[Deleted]

Wasn't real communism.

If you're gonna hold ideological modern day communists responsible for the shit that happened in Soviet Russia or Communist China, then there is nothing wrong with AntiFa holding those white supremacists in the USA responsible for the holocaust and WW2 either - thus all violence against nazis is allowed.

First, in a civilized society there is no room for political violence, like the fascists of Antiva commit. Then I would say that the historical example of the Third Reich has proven very well that national socialism is not a very good political idea and that we shouldn't stick to it anymore. Although if you argue this way, I think the body count proves that communism is a by far greater evil than national socialism, which is ironically itself a socialist school of thought as well. I mean, Mao and Stalin make Hitler look like a puppy who tried and failed to be a big bad. Both ideas have proven themselves to be inferior.

National Socialism utterly crashed, while the capitalistic and democratic system that followed afterwards has brought Germany more wealth and success than it could have ever dreamed of, while in direct competition with a socialist german state also proving its superiority to a socialistic model, both economically and culturally. Everyone who could fled and once the borders opened, the GDR utterly crashed and was absorbed by Western Germany. Capitalistic, democratic Germany is nowadays one of the most powerful economies on this planet and a leading force on the european continent, a position it could archive neither under a militaristic monarchy nor under national-socialism, only market economy was able to make Germany the leading force in europe. this little idea has proven itself more powerful and effective than everything we ever had before.

Communism on the other hand proves itself an inferior and stupid model of economy and culture as well. Everywhere it crashes and generates nothing but poverty and tyranny, while capitalism generates wealth and progress. Look at China. Once they accepted aspects of a market economy, the nation got richer and richer. Under capitalism, China generated wealthy middle classes.

[Jotaux]

This thread just demonstrates the whole "if you are not with us, you're against us!" mentality that lets groups like Antifa dehumanize anyone they don't agree with so they can assault them guilt free.

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First, in a civilized society there is no room for political violence, like the fascists of Antiva commit. Then I would say that the historical example of the Third Reich has proven very well that national socialism is not a very good political idea and that we shouldn't stick to it anymore. Although if you argue this way, I think the body count proves that communism is a by far greater evil than national socialism, which is ironically itself a socialist school of thought as well. I mean, Mao and Stalin make Hitler look like a puppy who tried and failed to be a big bad. Both ideas have proven themselves to be inferior.

National Socialism utterly crashed, while the capitalistic and democratic system that followed afterwards has brought Germany more wealth and success than it could have ever dreamed of, while in direct competition with a socialist german state also proving its superiority to a socialistic model, both economically and culturally. Everyone who could fled and once the borders opened, the GDR utterly crashed and was absorbed by Western Germany. Capitalistic, democratic Germany is nowadays one of the most powerful economies on this planet and a leading force on the european continent, a position it could archive neither under a militaristic monarchy nor under national-socialism, only market economy was able to make Germany the leading force in europe. this little idea has proven itself more powerful and effective than everything we ever had before.

Communism on the other hand proves itself an inferior and stupid model of economy and culture as well. Everywhere it crashes and generates nothing but poverty and tyranny, while capitalism generates wealth and progress. Look at China. Once they accepted aspects of a market economy, the nation got richer and richer. Under capitalism, China generated wealthy middle classes.

You do know that national socialism has nothing to do with socialism right?

[Deleted]

This thread just demonstrates the whole "if you are not with us, you're against us!" mentality that lets groups like Antifa dehumanize anyone they don't agree with so they can assault them guilt free.

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You do know that national socialism has nothing to do with socialism right?

Just as djihadism has nothing to do with islam and crusades probably had nothing to do with christianity?

Oh fuck, you are right this is genius. I have to tell our political leadership about that. We can use this stupid phrase for everything. When the polish want reparations from us again, we simply say "Yeah, no, you know that the Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS had nothing to do with Germany?"

You didn't really say anything new or interesting here.

But being stuck in the past isn't going to work for capitalism either. Capitalism has plenty of issues which are only becoming more and more obvious or pronounced as time continues. It doesn't seem like a sustainable system, and what will come after then? Back to Feudalism and Serfdom? When capitalism finally comes to it's breaking point and the revolutions that follow afterwards, I suppose people will hold capitalism just as responsible for the hundreds of millions of people who will die once it started failing.

Capitalism would be a pretty sustainable system without the left telling us that we have to take immigrants from the poorest and most primitive nations and say sorry all the time for being a better system than all those third world countries have.

Capitalism has no problems. After all, all the poor starving third world countries are not liberal capitalistic democracies. Now ask yourself why they are so piss poor while capitalistic democracies at least generate a basic level of wealth.

[Skayth]

Wasn't real communism.

real communism will never work. This is coming from staunch supporter of socializing many aspects of current "freedoms." The very problem with it, is, the human problem. Greed, power, corruption. It all happens, and its human nature of simply "survival of the fittest," with fittest being money.

Antifa is a garbage subsection of a far left ideology for thought and free speech control. Anyone whom speaks a lick of truth is labeled a nazi or alt right, and they are one step away from "purging" impure thoughts. Real, im talking about REAL, Nazis almost have the same standards as antifa. "Gun control, no free speech, cant say anything bad X wing, X race is bad and privileged." Antifa sounds like nazis to me. Neonazis are backwood hicks that dont know the difference between their ass and brains.

Communism will never work in this world. Never. There will always be people that want power, control, money, lust, etc. There is no stopping the human condition, and trying to stop such thoughts... is thought policing.

[Taso]

Antifa saved the world in World War 2.

You'd think you'd pay some respect to those who you owe your freedom to.

No antifa did not save the world and the allies did not call themselves that.
That would be me saying the anti imperialist saved the world in ww1 it’s not correct.
The world as a whole did not care about nazism or fascism until people started mass demonstrations and countries started being invaded. Then everyone cared. In fact prior to the declaration of war by hitler every country was jealous of the success Germany had. They went from an unstable republic to a solid on the outside stable country. No one really knew what was going on internally.

[Swalload]

Anyone that attended school knows that -x minus -x is x

People wouldn't listen. They said things like lolol there are no nazis you're a dangerous paranoid !!1

And now there are supremacists marching in the streets with torches nazis flags, running through crowds with their cars



I want to respect opinions but at this point if you still oppose anti fascists for preventing nazi oppression guess what maybe you're directly collaborating with these wannabe SS idiots.

Capitalism has gone way too far and the age of moderates is over deal with it

Remember ussr was merely an early draft, once capitalism inevitably destroys itself, communism will take over and fix the mistakes of greedy individualists

Absolutely not how it works. People can be against one side without supporting the other, of even be against both sides at the same time. Mathematics can't explain something like that, never will.

[AzazeltheRuthless]

real communism will never work. This is coming from staunch supporter of socializing many aspects of current "freedoms." The very problem with it, is, the human problem. Greed, power, corruption. It all happens, and its human nature of simply "survival of the fittest," with fittest being money.

Antifa is a garbage subsection of a far left ideology for thought and free speech control. Anyone whom speaks a lick of truth is labeled a nazi or alt right, and they are one step away from "purging" impure thoughts. Real, im talking about REAL, Nazis almost have the same standards as antifa. "Gun control, no free speech, cant say anything bad X wing, X race is bad and privileged." Antifa sounds like nazis to me. Neonazis are backwood hicks that dont know the difference between their ass and brains.

Communism will never work in this world. Never. There will always be people that want power, control, money, lust, etc. There is no stopping the human condition, and trying to stop such thoughts... is thought policing.

I believe that's why most of the commentators were saying Antifa are themselves fascist. They want to stifle opinion or thoughts that disagree with their own, just like Nazi's did. Honestly, it's a very similar spin to how Hitler gained his power. He took a group of people, victimized them and spun them as evil, and infringing on other rights which eventually gained him and audience a fan base.

Antifa are using a similar tactic, they just are going the easy way and already picking a group generally despised for their views (supremacists and Nazi's) and using the extremist view of calling anyone the questions them or dares to put up a thought that conflicts with their own, that well obviously that's because you're a Nazi.

[Taso]

I think you should try a more nuanced stance instead. Because I really don't agree. I'm not even talking about third world countries - I'm talking about the shrinking middle class, the increase in inequality and the stagnating and shrinking economy in first world countries. In most cases this even has nothing to do with 'the left' - the only reason refugees are taken in is because of human greed, and because the economic powers that be -want- refugees and cheap unskilled labor. It has nothing to do with some vague ideology of the people.

I also want to clarify that I'm not a communist, but I sense a certain dishonesty in pretending that Soviet Russia or Communist China were representative or communist ideals and or the notion that western philosophy and communist theory hasn't evolved over all those years.

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Yet everything the US government did to beat nazism is exactly what Antifa is doing today. Whether that is wanting to lock up people for espousing pro-fascist political views or being violent with supporters of fascism.

No the u.s government did not beat people up with bats and pepper spray and if you were a fascist supporter you just went to jail their was no threat of were going gun you down attitude. Also innocent people were arrested for being Japanese or German. Antifa on the other hand is as acting like a bunch of spoiled kids. They think the world is this but reality wise their is no fascism their is no major conspiracy of nazi takeover. They act like anti gov patriots they think their is a war but their is no war.

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I believe that's why most of the commentators were saying Antifa are themselves fascist. They want to stifle opinion or thoughts that disagree with their own, just like Nazi's did. Honestly, it's a very similar spin to how Hitler gained his power. He took a group of people, victimized them and spun them as evil, and infringing on other rights which eventually gained him and audience a fan base.

Antifa are using a similar tactic, they just are going the easy way and already picking a group generally despised for their views (supremacists and Nazi's) and using the extremist view of calling anyone the questions them or dares to put up a thought that conflicts with their own, that well obviously that's because you're a Nazi.

Yeah, nazis are like people fighting nazis rather than actual nazis.

[Taso]

I somehow doubt that all happened peacefully without any clubbing. They didn't exactly tell those people to come sit in their prison cell peacefully now did they?

What I said still holds though: fascist views were not tolerated in the country.

Fascist views were tolerated until war broke out. Because they need absolute loyalty which every country has done during war they went to jail because they refused to support the government open declaration of war. It’s in loose sense like Eugene v debs going to jail for refusing to join conscription and burning his draft card. They refused to give up so they were jailed.

[Blade Wolf]

I somehow doubt that all happened peacefully without any clubbing. They didn't exactly tell those people to come sit in their prison cell peacefully now did they?

What I said still holds though: fascist views were not tolerated in the country.

You can still protest fascism without resorting to fascist methods. Something that Antifa constantly fails at.

[Frogguh]

Antifa calls Ben Shapiro a fascist, because Antifa is too stupid to know the difference between a conservative and a Nazi.

Antifa is nothing but a bunch of violent whiny thugs who deserve some prison time. Nothing heroic about them.

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Antifa saved the world in World War 2.

You'd think you'd pay some respect to those who you owe your freedom to.

Western capitalistic nations saved the world from the Nazis in WWII. The russians only raped and murdered their way through innocent german civilians until they reached Berlin were they raped and murdered further, turning every nation they conquered on their way into a corrupt communist tyranny.

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Western capitalistic nations saved the world from the Nazis in WWII. The russians only raped and murdered their way through innocent german civilians until they reached Berlin were they raped and murdered further, turning every nation they conquered on their way into a corrupt communist tyranny.

Wow brushing aside the tremendous sacrifice of 20 million men to beat the nazis in one sentence.

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Wow brushing aside the tremendous sacrifice of 20 million men to beat the nazis in one sentence.

Doesn't this just shows how incompetent a communist state and their army are? I mean, 20 millions to beat an invading army and even then they only one because the germans were hit hard by the russian winter. Fuck, this is sad. It shows how even national socialism is even better than communism in managing ones economy and military. A fucking political system that is build about pseudo-scientific ideas about race is better in managing a nation than communism. Think about that.