Activision, now rigging you to buy micro transactions.

[Deleted]

You don't get better weapons or armor from " loot boxes ", what kind of dumb shot is this?

Battlefront 2.

[dr2022]

While I am not even buying or playing this game..... apparently people ARE speaking with their wallets.....just not in a way that you want it.

Tough Titties.

What's your opinion about this?

[Deleted]

You can't buy power in the game, they only give you vanity items. All this fake outrage over something that isn't happening is hilarious.

Do patents often happen with the intent of not being used?
The mere planning of this should be enough for outrage. Do you think we need to always sit and wait for something to happen before we react to it? You do know the entire world of politics is about what people plan to do and we get upset about that all the time, because it’s reasonable if it’s ridiculous things they plan.

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Ofc. it gets worst ..... plenty of people in this topic are actually defending this, go figure.

Some people have weak morals and ethics.

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Not sure I understand how this would work. 50% of the time YOU are the player who is matched against someone better, and 50% of the time YOU are the better player that someone got matched against? It's impossible to always match everyone against better players, because then those "better players" would be matched against weaker players.

Which means that you as the strong player will be stomping suckers because Activision wants to sell your gear.

[Lollis]

I love things like this.



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If all players are getting matched against players better.....then what constitutes a better player?
Since a player better than you will also be matched against a player better than them?

Holes amongst the Layers.

Elo-ception

[owbu]

well, there is enough good games out there, that dont do all the AAA bullshit.

[Deleted]

Illegal? Lol it's a game.

Laws apply to games too, dear.

[Frolk]

Activision saw how EA and WB was doing "business", and wanted to out do em in fucking over customers. Im not shocked, cant wait for what bullshit Ubisoft does next then all 4 big ones would have been cunts over a short timespan

[Endus]

How do you not feel that map-matching to give a smoke and mirrors effect to an item's usefulness not impeding on quality of matches? It clearly attempts to give a benefit to the buyer of a map that would otherwise be random and possibly unfavorable. It's clearly rigged. Most of this, especially for purely cosmetic items, it doesn't bother me. But to explicitly try to prove an item's worth through match manipulation, that's really where the line lies.

Because nothing there said it would affect the quality of matches.

It’s underhanded, scummy.
So what? It intentionally matches you with people you wouldn’t otherwise be matched with, solely for the purpose of incentivizing you into purchasing power in a game with real money. As another poster put it “You’ll be an ant to get stomped my gods” just so you’ll want to use real money to not get stomped by them anymore.

It doesn't say that you'll be matched with people you otherwise shouldn't be. Nor does it suggest you'll be put into matches where you're not competitive. That's where you start imagining things that aren't in the patent.

[Sury]

TL;DR Activision just patented a system for Destiny 2 which matches you against players better than you, to motivate you into buying shortcuts with real money.
https://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/...-items-w509288

This seems almost illegal. If not illegal, highly immoral. It targets what potentially is children with underhanded sales tactics. Not only that, but it will intentionally make an unfair match to do so.

Looks like they added an update to the article in regard to Destiny 2 specifically.

Update: Bungie community manager David "Deej" Dague tells Glixel that the technology referenced in the patent is not being used in Destiny 2. We have still not heard back from Activision, which publishes Destiny 2 as well as a number of other games including the Call of Duty titles.

[Lahis]

It doesn't say that you'll be matched with people you otherwise shouldn't be. Nor does it suggest you'll be put into matches where you're not competitive. That's where you start imagining things that aren't in the patent.

It literally matches you with people based on the amount of microtransactions they have purchased. Either to be envious for their powerful stuff, or be dominated by their powerful stuff. In both cases you are not competitive with them.

[chazus]

TL;DR Activision just patented a system for Destiny 2

And then in the ACTUAL ARTICLE

Bungie community manager David "Deej" Dague tells Glixel that the technology referenced in the patent is not being used in Destiny 2.

Hooray for reading the article you link.

[Lahis]

And then in the ACTUAL ARTICLE

Hooray for reading the article you link.

That was updated after the article was posted, possibly after OP had read it.

[IIamaKing]

I don't see an issue with sparing those that are better then you. Learning from those that are better then you is a great way to learn.

Things like, "swipe the card", is a great thing to learn.

[Endus]

It literally matches you with people based on the amount of microtransactions they have purchased.

Not according to the article, no. You're assuming that the ONLY source of these items would be microtransactions, which isn't part of this patent.

Either to be envious for their powerful stuff, or be dominated by their powerful stuff. In both cases you are not competitive with them.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't be matched with them anyway. It just means they'll tweak the metric a bit to encourage those particular types of connections.

[Acidbaron]

Let them, all this is going to cause is people to bail on the game even faster.

As nothing ruins an online experience more then feeling you are being unfairly treated, some might buy something most will just return to the dozens of better shooters out there once the new feeling is over.

[dragonballgtz]

Play a game that's pay to win
See p2w elements placed
Get outraged it's p2w
"I know it's pay to win, but damn it why is it pay to win?!"

I don't understand you people.

I agree

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[Santti]

I'm both surprised and saddened in seeing how many are fine with shit like this.

[Torgent]

Play a game that's pay to win
See p2w elements placed
Get outraged it's p2w
"I know it's pay to win, but damn it why is it pay to win?!"

I don't understand you people.

Lol, thinking that D2 is pay to win.

But also, this article is fucking awful. This system is not in Destiny 2, nor could it realistically work in d2.

[Stonecloak]

I'm both surprised and saddened in seeing how many are fine with shit like this.

It's exactly where Activision wants them. The lines for any decent business practices are abandoned for excuses like "well, its ok, because they want to make money". People are already beginning to steer away from these exploitative games, but I suppose they will just continue to prey on the ignorant.

[dr2022]

I am doing what you want and suggested. I vote with my wallet and don't buy the game, as I explained. But what are you gonna do? You are kinda late to the game...I mean..I have found allegedly "free" facebook games despicable since forever, yet companies like King are making such a shitload of money from "free" games like Candy Crush so that the company apparently was worth a 5 billion pricetag to Blizzard?

At the same time I find it off-turning how Apple and other corporations like Mc Donalds yada yada make their money...and I avoid their products too? Yes...it is pick and chose, because we still live in a capitalist consumers world.

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Soooo...fair enough..what laws are they breaking? As I tried to pint out in quoting you..you "feel" they "almost" do illegal things. That is NOT breaking laws.

Let's hear what laws they break then....

It just annoys me that "boycotting" won't work. The trend will continue, and it won't be far until a game I really want gets sucked into this business model and then I will have no choice but to suck it up. : /