Dullest character in WoW history...

[FelPlague]

but its been explained that the valkyir actually ask the new forsaken if its their will to be risen...
I wouldnt believe wow story so fervently........cause it really sucks,they always say they will continue the story,and they either fail to do it in a good manner,or simply never do it
warcraft story ended up in warcraft III the frozen throne,,,,,,
this new people writting the story have fail to deliver...

has it been explained?
again look at fenris isle.

[danielewhite]

Considering only Garrosh was on trial , and they blamed him for the fate of alexstraza but not anything the forsaken did?

Greymane may cry for his homeland, but nothing was "a warcrime" especially in the WoW universe.




Fighting Against Alliance expansion and securing borders =/= goals of expansion.




That still doesn't make them old god minions.

again what garrosh did was a warcrime because and simply,cause the celestial acted as intermediator between horde and alliance,
with the celestial out of the picture and no other intermediators
the concept warcrime doesnt apply.

[FelPlague]

Considering only Garrosh was on trial , and they blamed him for the fate of alexstraza but not anything the forsaken did?

Greymane may cry for his homeland, but nothing was "a warcrime" especially in the WoW universe.




Fighting Against Alliance expansion and securing borders =/= goals of expansion.




That still doesn't make them old god minions.

but not for anything the forsaken did? because they did it, even after he told them not to.
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
also no, sylvanas wants to grow her army by RAISING MORE UNDEAD

[danielewhite]

has it been explained?
again look at fenris isle.

what she does to the enemy doesnt matter...this only applies to their allies.....
u do get alliance are the enemy and bad guys in the hordes perspective...right?
in real wars the enemy doesnt have any rights

[FelPlague]

what she does to the enemy doesnt matter...this only applies to their allies.....
u do get alliance are the enemy and bad guys in the hordes perspective...right?
in real wars the enemy doesnt have any rights

"but its been explained that the valkyir actually ask the new forsaken if its their will to be risen..."
again, look at fenris isle, she is raising people against their will, and somehow turning people who hate sylvanas more then anything into "praise sylvanas" in 3 seconds


also again no, you know nothing about war, that is called being a fucking tyrant, if you think your enemy is worth nothing.
you think we could just nuke all of north korea out of orbit and no one would even bat an eyelash?
in real war the enemies have TONS OF RIGHTS
just because a leader wants to fuck up the rest of the world, does not mean their citizens deserve to be man slaughtered.

you sound like someone that could end up on the news "if someone is your enemy they have no rights in the real world"
you might want to get help man

[danielewhite]

but not for anything the forsaken did? because they did it, even after he told them not to.
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
also no, sylvanas wants to grow her army by RAISING MORE UNDEAD

she is basically recluting people for her army........something all leaders of the horde and alliance are guilty of

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"but its been explained that the valkyir actually ask the new forsaken if its their will to be risen..."
again, look at fenris isle, she is raising people against their will, and somehow turning people who hate sylvanas more then anything into "praise sylvanas" in 3 seconds


also again no, you know nothing about war, that is called being a fucking tyrant, if you think your enemy is worth nothing.
you think we could just nuke all of north korea out of orbit and no one would even bat an eyelash?

they are alliance,they dont count...they enemy,they bad,they dont have rights

[Friendlyimmolation]

has it been explained?
again look at fenris isle.

Its been explained, since Cataclysm which was what, 7 years ago?

[FelPlague]

she is basically recluting people for her army........something all leaders of the horde and alliance are guilty of

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they are alliance,they dont count...they enemy,they bad,they dont have rights

again you should get help, if you think because someone is the enemy, they have no rights, you need to get help, that is what mass shooters and serial killers think "they are lesser then me, therefore they have no rights"
recruiting people by murdering them, then forcing them into enslavement.
i feel like your a hardcore horde player.
Remember how the alliance didnt just kill off the orcs, they gave them encampments and fed them and cared for them even slightly? Yes some became corrupt but the kingdom tried its best to give them RIGHTS even though they were the enemy but your legit saying "hey they are in blue i can murder rape, and steal all i want at any time" That is not how war works, there is rights in war.
The horde could not just go into westfall and murder all the innocent farmers without being seen as a break of the honor of war.

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Its been explained, since Cataclysm which was what, 7 years ago?

guess what was also in cataclysm? Fenris isle, have you even done the quest chain?

[Friendlyimmolation]

but not for anything the forsaken did? because they did it, even after he told them not to.
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
also no, sylvanas wants to grow her army by RAISING MORE UNDEAD

I try to have the benefit of the doubt, but are you intentionally being so dense here?

It had absolutely fucking nothing to do with the blight being "A WARCRIME" Garrosh distrusted the Forsaken and wanted them to be a highway for the rest of the Horde.


Holy fuck stop repeating your opinion as if it will turn into facts, you're trying to say it as if she wants to spread across the entire world.

again you should get help, if you think because someone is the enemy, they have no rights, you need to get help, that is what mass shooters and serial killers think "they are lesser then me, therefore they have no rights"
recruiting people by murdering them, then forcing them into enslavement.

The only person that needs help right now is you because its painful to constantly read incorrect information again and again.

guess what was also in cataclysm? Fenris isle, have you even done the quest chain?

Yes, and if you ever bothered to do research you wouldn't be asking.

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/6489940501
information is over 5 years old, ignorance isn't an excuse.

[FelPlague]

I try to have the benefit of the doubt, but are you intentionally being so dense here?

It had absolutely fucking nothing to do with the blight being "A WARCRIME" Garrosh distrusted the Forsaken and wanted them to be a highway for the rest of the Horde.


Holy fuck stop repeating your opinion as if it will turn into facts, you're trying to say it as if she wants to spread across the entire world.

Warcraft has a code of honor in combat. Needlessly killing mass amounts of civilians is one of the war crimes, one garrosh was commited of, that being when he slaughtered the civilians of theramore. Using the plague was also made one after what happened at the Wrathgate.


also garrosh was right to distrust them, as they used the plague even when he told them not to... so i dont see your point there

[Soon-TM]

Gotta be Baine or post-Cata Sylvanas. Both incredibly dull and unremarkable characters, moreso when they are both faction leaders.

Deathwing in wow. All we seemed to get was that he was crazy and mindlessly rampaging across azeroth. Mindless villains arent interesting.

I forgot DW, my bad :/

[danielewhite]

Warcraft has a code of honor in combat. Needlessly killing mass amounts of civilians is one of the war crimes, one garrosh was commited of, that being when he slaughtered the civilians of theramore. Using the plague was also made one after what happened at the Wrathgate.

and u gotta get perspective,cause im not talking about civil rights in the modern world,im talking about a world in war,aka world of warcraft
u gotta check out how actual wars go,
futhermore,would u link this code u mention? the one nobody knows of,if it actually exist and is something like the gineva convention,then ud be right

[Najnaj]

Nomi for most frustrating

Fordring for dullest, most one dimensional do gooder with the worst voice acting in game. I was so happy when they killed him.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Warcraft has a code of honor in combat. Needlessly killing mass amounts of civilians is one of the war crimes, one garrosh was commited of, that being when he slaughtered the civilians of theramore. Using the plague was also made one after what happened at the Wrathgate.

Once again, no it wasn't. Massacres don't equal a automatic warcrime.

[Charge me Doctor]

if we follow your logic the dullest characte has to be illidan...who completely got rid of his personality to service fans.....
at least sylvanas has retained her personality

I prefer to think that illidan didn't happen

[danielewhite]

Warcraft has a code of honor in combat. Needlessly killing mass amounts of civilians is one of the war crimes, one garrosh was commited of, that being when he slaughtered the civilians of theramore. Using the plague was also made one after what happened at the Wrathgate.


also garrosh was right to distrust them, as they used the plague even when he told them not to... so i dont see your point there

btw im not sure why u mention this,cause sylvanas has nothing to do with the wrathgate

[FelPlague]

Once again, no it wasn't. Massacres don't equal a automatic warcrime.

The Forsaken are members of the Horde.

For the Horde, the world of the Warchief is law.

The Warchief (both Thrall and Garrosh) have forbid the plague

The plague is against the law.

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btw im not sure why u mention this,cause sylvanas has nothing to do with the wrathgate

she allowed her people to make the plague, that her people then betrayed her and used it at the wrathgate...

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and u gotta get perspective,cause im not talking about civil rights in the modern world,im talking about a world in war,aka world of warcraft
u gotta check out how actual wars go,
futhermore,would u link this code u mention? the one nobody knows of,if it actually exist and is something like the gineva convention,then ud be right

we dont have an ecxact list on all of them
but the killing of the civilians in theramore is described as a war crime in the war crimes book.
so is enslaving the neutral red dragon alexstraza

it is mentioned by the alliance at the end of SoO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWTdz54duxo

[Friendlyimmolation]

The Forsaken are members of the Horde.

For the Horde, the world of the Warchief is law.

The Warchief (both Thrall and Garrosh) have forbid the plague

The plague is against the law.

Except for the part where the Horde gave the Forsaken their own approved blight, its best to actually read up on stuff before you go about blathering right?

she allowed her people to make the plague, that her people then betrayed her and used it at the wrathgate...

Are you seriously making the "people should be held responsible for the actions of their traitors" argument?

we dont have an ecxact list on all of them
but the killing of the civilians in theramore is described as a war crime in the war crimes book.
so is enslaving the neutral red dragon alexstraza

it is mentioned by the alliance at the end of SoO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWTdz54duxo

They speak nothing of Warcrimes, Varian says Henious and even then if you want to try to drag that argument up, The Alliance and Horde never signed a pact or treaty to recognize what exactly warcrimes will be. So once again, no.

TLDR, its time to stop.

[danielewhite]

The Forsaken are members of the Horde.

For the Horde, the world of the Warchief is law.

The Warchief (both Thrall and Garrosh) have forbid the plague

The plague is against the law.

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she allowed her people to make the plague, that her people then betrayed her and used it at the wrathgate...

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we dont have an ecxact list on all of them
but the killing of the civilians in theramore is described as a war crime in the war crimes book.
so is enslaving the neutral red dragon alexstraza

it is mentioned by the alliance at the end of SoO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWTdz54duxo

thats perfect,but garrosh case is unique,remember he was automatically gonna be killed,the horde and the alliance were fighting over who got the honor,
he was judged under celestials morals and laws.......celestials are out of the picture. so is pandaria,and that code,it doesnt apply
theres no intermediaries between the horde and the alliance right not,there for the cant be a code,therefore there cant be warcrimes......

and about the wrathgate..........most countries in the world,not only fantasy worlds have created,kept massive murder weapons for years......
u mentionin something most contries are guilty of.

[Tripz]

Warcraft has a code of honor in combat.

You talk about Sylvanas more than a fan boy



Anyway, I think Malfurion is a real bummer, he should take a nap