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    Quote Originally Posted by Skorpionss View Post
    oh so it's not in the tournament proper? still weird that goku would let himself lose like that, maybe tactics to make the other universes underestimate him? still out of character for goku though...
    its like the Exhibition match, except that GoD's are fighting instead of those dogs, Gohan and Majin Buu in the anime.

    though Goku loses against Toppo fair and square unless I missed something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post
    its like the Exhibition match, except that GoD's are fighting instead of those dogs, Gohan and Majin Buu in the anime.

    though Goku loses against Toppo fair and square unless I missed something.
    I mean I doubt he went full power blue x20 Kaio Ken... not that he lost on purpose... more like, underestimated toppo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skorpionss View Post
    I mean I doubt he went full power blue x20 Kaio Ken... not that he lost on purpose... more like, underestimated toppo
    he doesn't have Kaioken in the manga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post
    he doesn't have Kaioken in the manga.
    well okay then...

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    In the anime Goku lost to Buu by ring out because he wasn't paying full attention, Goku tends to be forgetful of certain details.

    Actually makes sense for them to depict Toppo as being able to get the better of him, since that'll make Jiren look that much tougher when he shows up. Toppo's at Goku Blue level anyway, he should be super though. Technically, Goku wasn't sure if he could beat him in the anime either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Out of character? To lose?
    Well it is Goku.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Not like he's never lost a fight though, is it? lol
    Especially in Super.

    Goku couldn't beat:
    Beerus
    Frieza (because of Frieza cheating)
    Hit
    Black/Zamasu

    Matter of fact, I think it's fair to say that Dragonball Super has Goku jobbing most of the time. Probably to try to even out his Win/Lose ratio from Dragonball and Z.

    Or maybe not to even out the w/l ratio...

    Dragonball Z victories:
    Goku had to sacrifice his life to stop Radditz, I guess that counts as a tie. 0
    Goku beats Nappa +1
    Loses against Vegeta -1 (Vegeta lost to the combined efforts of Krillin, Gohan and that Yajirobe with Goku's broken body playing a small support role at the end).
    Defeats Recoom, and Burta. Jiece retreats to fetch Ginyu. +2
    Loses against Ginyu. -1
    Wins against Ginyu when Goku traps Ginyu in a frog's body. +1 I guess?
    Beats Frieza: +1
    Loses against 19 due to heart attack: -1
    forfeits against Cell: -1
    Gets sucker punched by Vegeta: -1
    Barely pulls off a win against Kid Buu: +1

    So it's totally not out of character for Goku to lose. He's done enough of it throughout DBZ anyway.
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    I mentioned a few pages back. Goku has yet to beat a top tier opponent in Super yet. He even lost to Frost. He tied with Toppo in the anime and Toppo put up a hell of a fight, including causing Goku to drop out of his SS form and tanking an instant transmission Kamehameha to the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Why? Because it doesn't follow the exact same path as the anime?


    Out of character? To lose?
    #1 Yeah because there are too many pointless inconsistencies... and I haven't did them any better or more interesting than the anime, especially the fights are much better in the anime.

    #2 To lose without giving it his best shot, yeah it's pretty out of character... I mean in the Anime they were pretty close and Goku only used Kaio Ken x1, not x20... but since in the manga he doesn't have Kaio Ken for some reason I dunno...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyF1069 View Post
    I mentioned a few pages back. Goku has yet to beat a top tier opponent in Super yet. He even lost to Frost. He tied with Toppo in the anime and Toppo put up a hell of a fight, including causing Goku to drop out of his SS form and tanking an instant transmission Kamehameha to the face.
    Winnie the Pooh isn't a top-tier opponent?

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    Winnie the Pooh hasn't beaten anybody or been seen as a credible threat at any point. So nay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RampageBW1 View Post
    Especially in Super.

    Goku couldn't beat:
    Beerus
    Frieza (because of Frieza cheating)
    Hit
    Black/Zamasu

    Matter of fact, I think it's fair to say that Dragonball Super has Goku jobbing most of the time. Probably to try to even out his Win/Lose ratio from Dragonball and Z.

    Or maybe not to even out the w/l ratio...

    Dragonball Z victories:
    Goku had to sacrifice his life to stop Radditz, I guess that counts as a tie. 0
    Goku beats Nappa +1
    Loses against Vegeta -1 (Vegeta lost to the combined efforts of Krillin, Gohan and that Yajirobe with Goku's broken body playing a small support role at the end).
    Defeats Recoom, and Burta. Jiece retreats to fetch Ginyu. +2
    Loses against Ginyu. -1
    Wins against Ginyu when Goku traps Ginyu in a frog's body. +1 I guess?
    Beats Frieza: +1
    Loses against 19 due to heart attack: -1
    forfeits against Cell: -1
    Gets sucker punched by Vegeta: -1
    Barely pulls off a win against Kid Buu: +1

    So it's totally not out of character for Goku to lose. He's done enough of it throughout DBZ anyway.
    technically was vegeta that developed the strategy of genkidama and without mr satan it would failed.
    goku alone was defeated by bu's stamina

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post
    high quality.

    [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMlhP1MVwAE0MiM.jpg:large[/IG]
    Can't wait for people to complain how she shouldn't be able to do that to him, even though he's been through hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RampageBW1 View Post
    So it's totally not out of character for Goku to lose. He's done enough of it throughout DBZ anyway.
    Goku usually loses at first, only to win in the rematch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Universe 6 Saiyans were just stronger in their base from, right from the start.

    That aside, who does this Namekian think he is? Goku Black?

    Who does GOku Black think he is? Salza?



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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post
    high quality.

    High quality butt

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    High quality butt
    In human culture, we assume she is intending to show off her ass. But these are Saiyans, she is clearly putting her sweet back muscles and glutes on display, so that she may attract a stronger mate, beat him down, and take his seed. As is tradition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selastan View Post
    In human culture, we assume she is intending to show off her ass. But these are Saiyans, she is clearly putting her sweet back muscles and glutes on display, so that she may attract a stronger mate, beat him down, and take his seed. As is tradition.
    Such a wonderous culture

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