In the anime Goku lost to Buu by ring out because he wasn't paying full attention, Goku tends to be forgetful of certain details.
Actually makes sense for them to depict Toppo as being able to get the better of him, since that'll make Jiren look that much tougher when he shows up. Toppo's at Goku Blue level anyway, he should be super though. Technically, Goku wasn't sure if he could beat him in the anime either.
Especially in Super.
Goku couldn't beat:
Beerus
Frieza (because of Frieza cheating)
Hit
Black/Zamasu
Matter of fact, I think it's fair to say that Dragonball Super has Goku jobbing most of the time. Probably to try to even out his Win/Lose ratio from Dragonball and Z.
Or maybe not to even out the w/l ratio...
Dragonball Z victories:
Goku had to sacrifice his life to stop Radditz, I guess that counts as a tie. 0
Goku beats Nappa +1
Loses against Vegeta -1 (Vegeta lost to the combined efforts of Krillin, Gohan and that Yajirobe with Goku's broken body playing a small support role at the end).
Defeats Recoom, and Burta. Jiece retreats to fetch Ginyu. +2
Loses against Ginyu. -1
Wins against Ginyu when Goku traps Ginyu in a frog's body. +1 I guess?
Beats Frieza: +1
Loses against 19 due to heart attack: -1
forfeits against Cell: -1
Gets sucker punched by Vegeta: -1
Barely pulls off a win against Kid Buu: +1
So it's totally not out of character for Goku to lose. He's done enough of it throughout DBZ anyway.
Last edited by RampageBW1; 2017-10-19 at 04:04 PM.
I mentioned a few pages back. Goku has yet to beat a top tier opponent in Super yet. He even lost to Frost. He tied with Toppo in the anime and Toppo put up a hell of a fight, including causing Goku to drop out of his SS form and tanking an instant transmission Kamehameha to the face.
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#1 Yeah because there are too many pointless inconsistencies... and I haven't did them any better or more interesting than the anime, especially the fights are much better in the anime.
#2 To lose without giving it his best shot, yeah it's pretty out of character... I mean in the Anime they were pretty close and Goku only used Kaio Ken x1, not x20... but since in the manga he doesn't have Kaio Ken for some reason I dunno...
Winnie the Pooh hasn't beaten anybody or been seen as a credible threat at any point. So nay.
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