New Fox News poll shows Alabama Senate special election is tied!

[Xeones]

Ain’t going happen. Alabama would vote a Dixiecrat before it picks a democrat. And to be quite honest several states that voted blue in 2016 voted for republican governors. several blue states went red for trump. So idk where your getting the assumption that dems will swipe next election.

In the house? Democrats are very likely to pick up some seats.

[Kallisto]

Eh, I put that one on Luther Strange sounding like a Marvel super villain's name.

More like some Marvel/DC crossover where Lex Luthor and Doctor Strange merge into one character.

[Taso]

In the house? Democrats are very likely to pick up some seats.

House? How so? Dems would have to provide something different then trump. They can’t simply say free healthcare free college it would have to be something that would provide a interest that republicans have not touched.
The only thing I can think of that dems could win house is by offering that crypto currency would not be subjected to tax increase and will do away with the drug war. That might intice some to come and vote otherwise it might as well be a third party replacing republicans or dems.

[Draco-Onis]

It's Alabama they would elected the dead corpse of Hitler before electing a democrat.

[Macaquerie]

Ain’t going happen. Alabama would vote a Dixiecrat before it picks a democrat. And to be quite honest several states that voted blue in 2016 voted for republican governors. several blue states went red for trump. So idk where your getting the assumption that dems will swipe next election.

Is that something to be proud of? Just so we're clear here, the Dixiecrats were explicitly founded for the sole purpose of preserving segregation, and after they lost that battle they mostly turned Republican, like Strom Thurmond. Maybe if Alabama wants to stop being a national laughingstock and byword for backwardness and racism, they could get their heads out of their asses and make a smart decision this time.

[Rasulis]

Nobody with an ounce of decency is going to say that they are going to vote for Roy Moore. As a person he is pretty disgusting. Hence the results of the poll.

However, in the privacy of the voting booth, with nobody watching, push comes to shove, Alabama’s Republican voters will vote for their party. I hope that I will be proven wrong.

[Taso]

Is that something to be proud of? Just so we're clear here, the Dixiecrats were explicitly founded for the sole purpose of preserving segregation, and after they lost that battle they mostly turned Republican, like Strom Thurmond. Maybe if Alabama wants to stop being a national laughingstock and byword for backwardness and racism, they could get their heads out of their asses and make a smart decision this time.

I just want to point out I’m not from Alabama but they have their own way of life. I don’t think they really care for modern democrats. Secondly most went back to the democrats. They would vote for Wallace independence party in 68 once more. Thirdly I don’t think they care if states make fun of them are not. They have their own way as I highlighted above. If Alabama really cared about their image they would have voted for hiliary or obama but they didn’t. Misssissipi is the same way. If a congressman or woman does not provide a reason that suits their need they won’t vote. Same with the presidents.

[Gestopft]

Not at all, actually. Remember, Bannon's guy (Moore) beat Trump and McConnell's guy (Strange) in the primary.

Locally, Strange was also disgraced Governor Bentley's guy. There were people predicting when he was appointed to the Senate that he had next to no chance to actually win the seat.

[cubby]

Nobody with an ounce of decency is going to say that they are going to vote for Roy Moore. As a person he is pretty disgusting. Hence the results of the poll.

However, in the privacy of the voting booth, with nobody watching, push comes to shove, Alabama’s Republican voters will vote for their party. I hope that I will be proven wrong.

I agree completely. And I hope you will.

[Xeones]

House? How so? Dems would have to provide something different then trump. They can’t simply say free healthcare free college it would have to be something that would provide a interest that republicans have not touched.
The only thing I can think of that dems could win house is by offering that crypto currency would not be subjected to tax increase and will do away with the drug war. That might intice some to come and vote otherwise it might as well be a third party replacing republicans or dems.

... what?

I'm not sure if you don't understand what the house is or if you just really think Trump is super popular.

[Gestopft]

Ain’t going happen. Alabama would vote a Dixiecrat before it picks a democrat. And to be quite honest several states that voted blue in 2016 voted for republican governors. several blue states went red for trump. So idk where your getting the assumption that dems will swipe next election.

Maybe not this election in Alabama, but the idea that Dems are going to pick up seats in 2018 comes from
1) Trump's dismal approval rating
2) The party out of power usually makes gains in the midterms. Disregarding current circumstances, it's a fair assumption based on history that Dems are going to pick up seats.

[Wvvtayy]

... what?

I'm not sure if you don't understand what the house is or if you just really think Trump is super popular.

He's just ignorant. Anyone who thinks Republicans will gain house seats next year is irredeemably stupid

[Macaquerie]

I just want to point out I’m not from Alabama but they have their own way of life. I don’t think they really care for modern democrats. Secondly 1948 was state rights and went back to the democrats. They would vote for Wallace in 68 once more. Thirdly I don’t think they care if states make fun of them are not. They have their own way as I highlighted above. If Alabama really cared about their image they would have voted for hiliary or obama but they didn’t. Misssissipi is the same way. If a congressman or woman does not provide a reason that suits their need they won’t vote. Same with the presidents.

Of course people in Alabama care about what other people think, after all wasn't the 2016 election supposed to be about the average Bubba rebelling against the disdain from the out of touch coastal elites? And I'm sorry but we are the United States, not fucking Uzbekibekibekistanstan, and cultural backwardness and ignorance can't simply be dismissed as some quirky provincialism, but needs to be fought and corrected at every turn. Get with the times, or get out.

[Zarc]

I seem to recall reading sometime ago that Roy Moore winning this Senate seat might be more beneficial to the Democrats than him losing, according to some some, because it's going to taint the rest of the Republicans in the Senate having this guy around.

[Taso]

He's just ignorant. Anyone who thinks Republicans will gain house seats next year is irredeemably stupid

Ignorant? Tell me what are democrats offering that would throw republicans out? What do the democrats in house have to offer? Is it free healthcare and a impeach trump process? If that’s the whole agenda then it will flop. I’m not a naysayer to polls but once people go out and vote it’s a whole different ball game.

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Of course people in Alabama care about what other people think, after all wasn't the 2016 election supposed to be about the average Bubba rebelling against the disdain from the out of touch coastal elites? And I'm sorry but we are the United States, not fucking Uzbekibekibekistanstan, and cultural backwardness and ignorance can't simply be dismissed as some quirky provincialism, but needs to be fought and corrected at every turn. Get with the times, or get out.

Wow. See what you are pointing out here is why they will most likely not vote democrat. If those on the left harass them as unintelligent do you think they will vote left because of that? Secondly what makes them backwards? Because they chose to believe something different? And finally it’s Uzbekistan or Kekstan.

[Macaquerie]

Wow. See what you are pointing out here is why they will most likely not vote democrat. If those on the left harass them as unintelligent do you think they will vote left because of that? Secondly what makes them backwards? Because they chose to believe something different? And finally it’s Uzbekistan or Kekstan.

When you're dealing with a misbehaving child, the priority is not to make them feel better about themselves but to force them to improve. And Alabama isn't just "different," just look at all the shit that Roy Moore has actually said and done over the years that, beyond being bigoted and discriminatory, is just flat out unconstitutional and should automatically disqualify him from holding public office.

Strategically, pandering to "moderate" Republicans has backfired on the Democrats time and time again, because who knew that racist yokels would always vote for team red without consideration of actual policy outcomes? Time to take a harder line approach, it couldn't possibly turn out worse than what they've been doing.

[Blur4stuff]

It would take a long string of scandals to make moore lose this race. We learned today his charity accepted nazi group money, but stuff like that isn't necessarily going to cost him votes in a state like alabama. What we've learned from last year's election is that republicans will vote for their team even if the candidate is incompetent and a sexual predator. I'm not sure what would turn voters off besides a video of moore claiming to love obama or agreeing with something bible jesus taught instead of republican fantasy jesus.

I would be beyond shocked if he lost.

[CostinR]

Moore is fucking crazy. I always find it insane to hear a guy who was removed from office because he broke the law to lecture others on the rule of law.

Shouldn't someone like that be prevented from running in the first place?

I sincerely hoped that someone like that would lose the primaries, but no instead we get this maniac that could enter the Senate. If he wins then expect more crazies to run and win.

Seriously Bannon has a good mind of many issues, but what he doesn't get, what he doesn't understand, is that getting those things done requires compromise, coherence and discussion. Instead Bannon wants to take a nuke to Congress. It's VERY tempting to follow that but look at where the world is today:

- North Korea has developed a Hydrogen Bomb that they are very close to mounting on an ICBM, and they've threatened to test fire that in the Pacific.
- The Entire Middle East following 25 years of moronic foreign policy by Clinton, Bush and Obama is in chaos. Over a million people have died and millions more have been left as internal and external refugees.
- Venezuela has all but become a failed state and dictatorship that's on the brink of collapse.
- Europe is collapsing. Between the refugee crisis that was only solved by literally bribing Turkey to the tune of billions along with shoring up the Libyan coast guard, in a country that's still in a civil war I might add and the rise of stronger and stronger secessionist movements we are now seeing more and more weakening of power for Western European governments while in Eastern Europe has all but embraced the illiberal governments such as in Hungary, Poland and Czech Republican. Governments that do not respect the rule of law and have worked to undermine in both Poland and Hungary.

[Edge-]

It would take a long string of scandals to make moore lose this race. We learned today his charity accepted nazi group money, but stuff like that isn't necessarily going to cost him votes in a state like alabama.

I would be beyond shocked if he lost.

Or the $180K a year that he was receiving from his charity, including promissory notes to pay missed salaries in the years where they had financial difficulties. After saying that he did not receive a salary from it.

Or that time he got asked about DACA/Dreamers on a radio show and...literally didn't know anything about it. Like, at all. All while the host was doing everything he could to allow Moore to room to go, "Oh yeah that!" by priming him with bits of info...all of which fell on completely deaf ears.

[PACOX]

Nobody with an ounce of decency is going to say that they are going to vote for Roy Moore. As a person he is pretty disgusting. Hence the results of the poll.

However, in the privacy of the voting booth, with nobody watching, push comes to shove, Alabama’s Republican voters will vote for their party. I hope that I will be proven wrong.

Remember they voted for a guy who body slammed a reporter the day before his election. GOP doesnt give a damn, POE! Party Over Everything!