Alt✰Hero Comic Book Issues a Right-Wing Challenge to SJW Marvel, DC Comics

[Elba]

Right wingers are the easiest to milk people.

[Orange Joe]

Ham fisted politics in comics... I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Anymore? Marvel has been putting politics in comics since their creation.

[Martinezzz]

Rebel... the ripoff redneck/ white trash Wonder Woman, featuring the confederate flag... how... creative.

It seems you are already triggered

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

It seems you are already triggered

Seems to me he's just bored.

[Elba]

Anymore? Marvel has been putting politics in comics since their creation.

This. Superhero comics have never been non political and non SJW. Never ever.

[zebreck]

This is going to fail for the same reason right wing comedy news shows inevitably fail. They are attacking acting as a 'counter-balance' to a strawman of their own creation. In the same way that there aren't any rabidly left-wing nutjob news shows, there are no rabidly SJW nut-job comics. There's just moderately left wing news shows and comics that, in the case of new shows, make a point of mocking both sides when they do stupid shit. Making a rabidly right wing nut-job version of either is just going to be a nut job version, not bring some sort of balance to the force. This is what you get when you spend all your time shotgunning your own kool-aide.

[Elba]

This is going to fail for the same reason right wing comedy news shows inevitably fail.

Left wing comedy is comedy first, politics second.

Right wing comedy is politics first, comedy never.

[josykay]

about as cringey and forced as little black girl iron man

Well, Iron Man is technically just a suit. Nothing more nothing less. Technically everyone, who can get hands on the suits can be Iron Man.
He is one of the super heroes, who is competely replaceable, since he is just a guy with gadgets.
And after all, it is quite reasonable, that mere mortal heroes die of, sooner or later. Nobody complained after Terry McGinnis becoming Batman, or multiple Green Lantern incarnations. And depending on which comic universe, isn't Captain America dying, because his treatment was flawed after all?
Or is it in the end, because said hero is not a white male?
Thor didn't become female, there is just a female, along side of several aliens and shit, worthy of picking up the hammer. Odinson does still exist. But it caused outrage.... Why? And IMO said female Thor is much better than most female heroes we got before from Marvel, like She-Hulk. Who essentially lacks all the downsides Bruce Banner suffers from, and just becomes a hot "space amazon".

[Dasffion]

Maybe. Read only one issue of black panther from back then. It was much better than anything current. Didn't have any identity politics in it at all, too.

Black Panther debuted the same year that Black Panthers the political organization was formed...no identity politics at all...

[Clone]

You mean this?


I agree, It looks far above it. The industry standard meant something in the past, nowadays the bar is set so low, it's easy to top it. Don't believe me? On the left, you have what used to be industry standard, on the right, where Marvel is currently.



And there's plenty more where that came from.
https://archive.is/k2gH0

Old art is old.

This is from your precious comic.


Edit: I hope you are not trying to say that picture of Ms. Marvel is anatomically incorrect.

[LiiLoSNK]

I actually wanna see an alt-hero vs section 8 showdown now.

[Astalnar]

It's just a scam to get all the idiot alt right types to pony up cash, it's not like it will actually cost $122k to draw some shitty comic that nobody will ever actually buy.

As it can be seen from their crowdfunding page, they asked for $25.000 for first three volumes. After that goal was reached in 1st 4 hours, they added new additional 6 (for now) volumes and 2 books. Basicly, more money people throw at them, more stuff they are going to produce.

Putting "Alt" in the brand basically dooms them from a marketing standpoint. It might, on its face, work as "alternate heroes to these companies", but put "alt" on anything now and it means Richard Spencer.

That's how I took it too. I initially thought it was a word play on alter ego, as in the hero's other face, the alt hero. We'll see how it works out. It seems the creators are well aware of that problem since they branded later volumes as Avalon.

Old art is old.

This is from your precious comic.

So, you want to tell me that work in progress of an indie comic book is on par with Marvel's finished product? I'm fine fine with that.

[Hammerfest]

SJW Marvel's numbers and popularity slump was predicted long ago. Any idiot could see what was happening.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/01...-darin-wagner/

How Liberalism May Be Hurting Comic Book Sales by Darin Wagner

Posted by Rich Johnston January 5, 2012

Darin Wagner writes for Bleeding Cool.

If you are a conservative like me, you’ve been reading fewer and fewer comic books over the last 12 years. For those of you who know what I’m talking about, the weekly visit to the comic book shop has become either an exercise in irritation or a monotonous drill.

You pick up a superhero comic book featuring a childhood favorite of yours, hoping to reignite some of that magic you felt way back when and you see that the opening sequence in the comic deals with an oil rig disaster. You immediately and disappointingly know what’s going to be said, either by your childhood favorite or by some other character given credibility within the story. You turn the page, and sure enough, your childhood favorite grumbles about his/her country’s dependency on oil or how inherently dangerous oil drilling is to the environment and how it’s not worth it or simply mutters to him-or-herself briefly about the evils of corporate America. That’s when you put the comic back on the shelf and your local retailer loses a sale. (Sound familiar? Brightest Day #5 contained a similar scenario featuring Aquaman.)

You pick up another comic book featuring a superhero team you used to really enjoy and there’s a member on the team who shares a lot of the same socio-political views you do, but he doesn’t articulate them very well (by design, you can tell) and gets everything wrong (again, by design) and you realize that he’s the “team jackass” precisely because he is supposed to represent you. (Another Brightest Day example of this; issue #7 where Steve Ditko creation Hawk says he wrecked a restaurant’s juke box because it was playing a Dixie Chicks song. Hawk was created to represent conservatism during the Vietnam War era, but today he’s apparently a reckless caveman who doesn’t understand the very conservative idea of private property rights.) So you put that comic book back on the shelf and if you haven’t walked out by now, you’re sure to get at least three more experiences like these before finding a superhero comic that is, at best, not very political.

We see this all the time, don’t we? Black Canary just happens to make a comment about how supposedly unsafe SUVs are while pursuing a villain in one in the pages of Birds Of Prey. Over on the Marvel side, in the pages of Alpha Flight, a Canadian man parks in front of a fire hydrant while attempting to vote and he’s given a ticket for doing so. The man accuses the cop (Snowbird’s alter ego) of voter suppression and how she’s “harassing the patriots who are trying to change things”… to which she responds “Please, sir. We’re Canadian.”

It even extends outside of comics into animation. In the Justice League animated series episode “Paradise Lost,” Superman and Wonder Woman are investigating a shopping mall. Wonder Woman looks at the interior of the mall and likens it to a temple. Superman replies “Yes, for those who worship their credit cards.” Now, what are we supposed to make of this? Superman clearly doesn’t think very highly of shopping malls, at the very least. (This is odd considering that the character once symbolized something called “the American Way” of life, which was defined by, among other things, capitalism.)

But back to comic books. Sure these little jabs and nods are individually nothing that can’t be dismissed… but they have a cumulative effect. They wear us down and eventually the excitement and magic of comic book superheroes becomes outweighed by our being annoyed. It’s happening more and more over the last dozen years: The people behind the scenes allowing their personal politics to bleed through into the stories of otherwise apolitical superheroes whose adventures are meant for everyone to enjoy. This in-and-of-itself wouldn’t be quite so bad if it weren’t always the same political views repeated over-and-over ad nauseum.

Simply put, there’s too much liberalism in comic books today.

One thing that those who disagree (most of whom are typically self-described liberals) will say is that there is conservatism in comic books because superheroes are inherently conservative. In saying this, they are implying that they are in fact balancing the scales by having these characters occasionally-to-frequently quip liberal adages. I have to disagree with that. The first comic book superhero, Superman, fought a liberal/social agenda in his first stories. The character only became a symbol of lawful authority later. Most superheroes, it can be argued, are apolitical by virtue of the reader’s ability to insert their own politics into the character when the writer has not already done so. Even Green Arrow could be a conservative character, rather than the liberal one we’ve had since Hard Traveling Heroes.

Now, you might say, “Darin, you’re obviously unaware that Green Arrow is based on Robin Hood and as EVERYBODY ELSE KNOWS, Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor. He’d be an Occupier today.” Well, yeah, that’s how those on the left view Robin Hood… but if you look more closely at Robin Hood you will find that the character more accurately stole from the state and gave back to the people… so one could just as easily say that Robin Hood would be a Tea Partier today and, therefore, Green Arrow could be too.

Folks, I know comics are created by artists. I know that Marvel and DC offices are in New York City. I realized before I started typing this that asking for authentic conservatism in comic books from the Big Two to counter constant jabs, references and snide, preachy copy they print is like asking the mob to please leave garbage alone. I get that…

…but for the good of the comic book industry, this escalation and domination of liberal sentiment has got to stop and it’s gotta stop quick.

Everybody knows that when an entertainer goes political, he/she runs the very serious risk of cutting their audience by at least half. The comic book audience has been getting smaller and smaller and I think it’s time to honestly consider that a big part of the problem is the content. It’s gotten so bad that some of the more open-minded liberal comic book readers I know are getting turned off because it’s so obvious what’s been happening. I know that some of you are going to reply with some variation of “I don’t see it” or “This guy is a troll” or “Shut up.”That’s fine, go ahead and exercise that right… but it won’t help the comic book industry or make the audience grow again.

This was 5 years ago.

[Kathandira]

You can read the rest of the article at: https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/vox-da...ge-sjw-marvel/


So, what do you think about this? Yay or nay? Something in between? Are the creators of this new comic on to something, or are they just going to crash and burn? For some time now people were complaining over the state of Marvel & DC Comics. But is that enough to get the frustrated readers to check some new titles or do you think people just want their old favourites back? And most important question, is this a swan song for the dying comics industry, or is it a precursor to the renaissance of the comics industry.

What do you think?

I always say, If you don't like the product, go ahead and make the one you want. If someone wanted this, and made it, good for them. But will it be successful? Time will tell.

[-Nurot]

That's how I took it too. I initially thought it was a word play on alter ego, as in the hero's other face, the alt hero. We'll see how it works out. It seems the creators are well aware of that problem since they branded later volumes as Avalon.

The creator is alt-right. The alt hero might as well read alt-right hero. In fact this is off his own page, as to what he thinks the alt-right is.

The Alt Right is of the political right in both the American and the European sense of the term. Socialists are not Alt Right. Progressives are not Alt Right. Liberals are not Alt Right. Communists, Marxists, Marxians, cultural Marxists, and neocons are not Alt Right. National Socialists are not Alt Right.

The Alt Right is an ALTERNATIVE to the mainstream conservative movement in the USA that is nominally encapsulated by Russel Kirk's 10 Conservative Principles, but in reality has devolved towards progressivism. It is also an alternative to libertarianism.

The Alt Right is not a defensive attitude and rejects the concept of noble and principled defeat. It is a forward-thinking philosophy of offense, in every sense of that term. The Alt Right believes in victory through persistence and remaining in harmony with science, reality, cultural tradition, and the lessons of history.
The Alt Right believes Western civilization is the pinnacle of human achievement and supports its three foundational pillars: Christianity, the European nations, and the Graeco-Roman legacy.

The Alt Right is openly and avowedly nationalist. It supports all nationalisms and the right of all nations to exist, homogeneous and unadulterated by foreign invasion and immigration.

The Alt Right is anti-globalist. It opposes all groups who work for globalist ideals or globalist objectives.

The Alt Right is anti-equalitarian. It rejects the idea of equality for the same reason it rejects the ideas of unicorns and leprechauns, noting that human equality does not exist in any observable scientific, legal, material, intellectual, sexual, or spiritual form.

The Alt Right is scientodific. It presumptively accepts the current conclusions of the scientific method (scientody), while understanding a) these conclusions are liable to future revision, b) that scientistry is susceptible to corruption, and c) that the so-called scientific consensus is not based on scientody, but democracy, and is therefore intrinsically unscientific.

The Alt Right believes identity > culture > politics.

The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples.

The Alt Right is opposed to any non-native ethnic group obtaining excessive influence in any society through nepotism, tribalism, or any other means.

The Alt Right understands that diversity + proximity = war.

The Alt Right doesn't care what you think of it.

The Alt Right rejects international free trade and the free movement of peoples that free trade requires. The benefits of intranational free trade is not evidence for the benefits of international free trade.

The Alt Right believes we must secure the existence of white people and a future for white children.

The Alt Right does not believe in the general supremacy of any race, nation, people, or sub-species. Every race, nation, people, and human sub-species has its own unique strengths and weaknesses, and possesses the sovereign right to dwell unmolested in the native culture it prefers.

The Alt Right is a philosophy that values peace among the various nations of the world and opposes wars to impose the values of one nation upon another as well as efforts to exterminate individual nations through war, genocide, immigration, or genetic assimilation.

What a boring tired cliche. I'm sure he'll fill his little magazine with all these ideas. I like how he tries to say the same old tired shit, but then tries to retroactively add false platitudes to a group that was around before he tried to identify as such. Good thing he still buys into most of the nonsense they believe in.

Just remember all men are not created equal. Go ahead and burn the deceleration of independence, the alt-right kids are here to save the day! /s

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

If the special snowflake isn't a fan of equality, then he can go find somewhere else to live that wasn't founded on such a premise.

I also like how the alt-right gets offended at the NFL players kneeling, but prancing around with the confederate flag is not an insult to veterans. They might want to take just a second to think about that dumb-fuckery.

[LiiLoSNK]

I always say, If you don't like the product, go ahead and make the one you want. If someone wanted this, and made it, good for them. But will it be successful? Time will tell.

I'm no Shark Tank billionaire, but 1332 backers for $128,431 raised seems kinda weird. That's an average of about 100 bucks per donation.

I should've taken an actual business class, cause to dumb ol' me this seems like a forced meme with next to zero actual substance of interest.

[Woadnson]

Chuck Dixon the best they can do? Guy used to write baseball porn comics ffs. Call us when they convince Frank Miller, he'd be a coup and leans their way.

[Elba]

SJW Marvel's numbers and popularity slump was predicted long ago. Any idiot could see what was happening.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/01...-darin-wagner/



This was 5 years ago.

And it's bullshit.

Sales are down because of inaccessibility, constant reboots and cross over events and cancellations.

The comic book industry needs to expand its audience to be sustainable, you can't milk merely the 40 year dorks forever.

They need fresh blood, for that they need to make comics more accessible, easier to get into and promote them better

Also:

[Beazy]

So wait, the super villains are just normal everyday illegals?

So this hero is going to bust up into Taco Bell and send pedro back to Mexico?

Sounds pretty gay if you want my honest opinion. I like super villains who fuck shit up on a large scale. . . .not villains who use a fake SSN.

[Techno-Druid]

The Alt Right does not believe in the general supremacy of any race, nation, people, or sub-species. Every race, nation, people, and human sub-species has its own unique strengths and weaknesses, and possesses the sovereign right to dwell unmolested in the native culture it prefers.

Didn't think Neanderthal Nationalism was that prevalent anymore...