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  1. #121
    Seems like tripe pandering bullshit to rake in money off altists to me. Just straight pandering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    As it can be seen from their crowdfunding page, they asked for $25.000 for first three volumes. After that goal was reached in 1st 4 hours, they added new additional 6 (for now) volumes and 2 books. Basicly, more money people throw at them, more stuff they are going to produce.



    That's how I took it too. I initially thought it was a word play on alter ego, as in the hero's other face, the alt hero. We'll see how it works out. It seems the creators are well aware of that problem since they branded later volumes as Avalon.



    So, you want to tell me that work in progress of an indie comic book is on par with Marvel's finished product? I'm fine fine with that.
    You are acting like the panel hasn't been inked and colored. While the entire comic is not finished, that page is.

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    Hot, are her hands tied behind her back? Would be fitting...kinda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    SJW Marvel's numbers and popularity slump was predicted long ago. Any idiot could see what was happening.

    https://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/01...-darin-wagner/



    This was 5 years ago.
    More like conjecture bullshit. It's been known shitty business practices and declined popularity of the medium are the cause.

  5. #125
    People on this site confuse and mis use trigger and snowflake like racist and bigot and what not lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    This. Superhero comics have never been non political and non SJW. Never ever.
    I love when you say stupid idiotic shit like this, it ruins your entire trolling persona. You will never be as good as Jaylock. Try to get to Tennisaces level first. You cant go straight to CEO with this brand of weak trolling Elba.

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    As it can be seen from their crowdfunding page, they asked for $25.000 for first three volumes. After that goal was reached in 1st 4 hours, they added new additional 6 (for now) volumes and 2 books. Basicly, more money people throw at them, more stuff they are going to produce.
    The money they've raised off the backs of easily duped morons is already far more than they could ever hope to earn actually selling comics, so the smart thing to do is just to keep the money and never draw any comics at all, making up some lame excuse about how SJW backlash is keeping retailers from ordering their product or some other BS.

    I actually kind of feel bad for people who paid into this, because this won't be the first nor the last time they get duped into shelling out a bunch of cash for the purpose of triggering liberals in some vague manner, never realizing that they were the real suckers all along.

  8. #128
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    cringe worthy to say the least

  9. #129
    remember when conservatives cared about freedom, LOL know its government overeach all in the name of security, what if they want to change the definition of "illegal, to lets say someone whos jewish, like alt right people have stated they want to do, you should never let the government alone determine if someone should live or die, yet theese right wingers are just begging for concentration camps, begging for registrations of all none christians, and so many draconian policies its amazing that this is somehows the majority, just like in 1930s germany any of us who remotely opposed their agenda will be sent to the camps to die,

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by josykay View Post
    Well, Iron Man is technically just a suit. Nothing more nothing less. Technically everyone, who can get hands on the suits can be Iron Man.
    He is one of the super heroes, who is competely replaceable, since he is just a guy with gadgets.
    And after all, it is quite reasonable, that mere mortal heroes die of, sooner or later. Nobody complained after Terry McGinnis becoming Batman, or multiple Green Lantern incarnations. And depending on which comic universe, isn't Captain America dying, because his treatment was flawed after all?
    Or is it in the end, because said hero is not a white male?
    Thor didn't become female, there is just a female, along side of several aliens and shit, worthy of picking up the hammer. Odinson does still exist. But it caused outrage.... Why? And IMO said female Thor is much better than most female heroes we got before from Marvel, like She-Hulk. Who essentially lacks all the downsides Bruce Banner suffers from, and just becomes a hot "space amazon".
    Your arguing against a Strawman here. Riri was never "Iron Man," she built a similar suit and impressed Tony so much he decided to mentor her (or at least his AI-copy did.) At the same time Doctor Doom decided to turn over a new leaf and became the new Iron Man, but no-one complained so much about that because he ticked the demographic boxes they approved of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    This. Superhero comics have never been non political and non SJW. Never ever.
    False. I've got Hulk comics from the 70s and 80s that weren't preaching any political message. You have no idea what you're talking about, and carry on as though you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clone View Post
    More like conjecture bullshit. It's been known shitty business practices and declined popularity of the medium are the cause.
    More like the truth. While those are indeed factors, the lack of quality in the content right along with the one-sided political bent, are also. People who otherwise would be buying comics today aren't because they quite understandably don't like being insulted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    False. I've got Hulk comics from the 70s and 80s that weren't preaching any political message. You have no idea what you're talking about, and carry on as though you do.

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    More like the truth. While those are indeed factors, the lack of quality in the content right along with the one-sided political bent, are also. People who otherwise would be buying comics today aren't because they quite understandably don't like being insulted.
    You know that in general marvel comics could have always been political with out every single comic being political right?

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Marvel as a company gets money from it, which they can divest to their comics if need be.
    You know nothing about business. Disney owns them. Marvel comics are already in deep shit. Disney won't keep the comics part of Marvel alive much longer. There's no business on this planet that willingly wants to keep throwing money at something that's dying.

    As for who gets what money, I can already tell you comic book artists get shafted for the work they do; but that's more or less always been the case.
    I know who gets the money. The executives that partially own the intellectual property. The writers, artists, and editors don't get shit from the movies. What sort of twisted dimension do you live in where the lower end people get money for work they have absolutely nothing to do with?

    If comic books are failing as a medium I'd surmise it has far more to do with the physical medium being "outdated" in today's world, rather than people taking up some hard stance against a plot point.
    Marvel realizes that identity politics are hurting them. They came out and said as much. Your speculation isn't needed when we already know what's going on.

    Him being black, period, was the "identity politics" of the time.
    No it's not. Do you know what identity politics is? When you can get Stan Lee to come out and say he created him based on identity politics I'd concede the point.
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    liberalism is a right wing idealogy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    False. I've got Hulk comics from the 70s and 80s that weren't preaching any political message. You have no idea what you're talking about, and carry on as though you do.
    Comics have never been political. Nope. Never.

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Dasffion View Post
    Black Panther debuted the same year that Black Panthers the political organization was formed...no identity politics at all...
    Following his debut in Fantastic Four #52–53 (July 1966)
    The Black Panther Party or the BPP (originally the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense) was a revolutionary black nationalist and socialist organization founded by Bobby Seale and Huey Newton in October 1966.
    Maybe try harder next time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    liberalism is a right wing idealogy.

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Comics have never been political. Nope. Never.
    [IMG]https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/11/117763/2677627-captainamericacomics01.jpg[/
    People need to stop using this excuse. No one is saying comics have never been political before. They are saying that it’s never been done in so many books at once before. I’m not sure but I don’t think it’s ever been this unsubtle before either.

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Comics have never been political. Nope. Never.
    https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...cacomics01.jpg
    Can you quote where he said "NEVER"?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    liberalism is a right wing idealogy.

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    It's time to fight identity politics with totally not our brand of identity politics.
    That's my thought. I imagine it'll do as well as the sjw inspired comic garbage.

    The chick's hot at least, even if she is wrapped in the confederate flag. The X on her face strikes me as cheesy.
    Horseshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    People need to stop using this excuse. No one is saying comics have never been political before. They are saying that it’s never been done in so many books at once before. I’m not sure but I don’t think it’s ever been this unsubtle before either.
    The books didn’t all just pop up in the same year though some like miles morales spider man came out years before others and continued not to mention x23 has been a thing for longer then that. The only new diverse characters I can think of are khan and riri, as Jane foster has been around for along time and has even gotten thors powers before and cho has been apart of hulk comics for long to.

  20. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    People need to stop using this excuse. No one is saying comics have never been political before. They are saying that it’s never been done in so many books at once before. I’m not sure but I don’t think it’s ever been this unsubtle before either.
    Its done so many times at once because the number of different titles is much greater than before. How many different titles did you think they're used to be?

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