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    New data show 69% of illegal border-crossers are being granted asylum

    The acceptance rate for the border-crossers is even higher than the 63-per-cent overall rate for asylum-seekers in 2016.

    Almost 70 per cent of refugees who illegally cross the U.S. border into Canada are granted asylum here, despite the widespread public view that these border-crossers are not real refugees in need of protection.

    The data was released this week by the Immigration and Refugee Board.

    Since January, The RCMP have intercepted more than 15,100 people entering through unguarded border entry points from the United States, after President Donald Trump came into power and issued a series of executive orders to expedite deportation of foreign nationals and ban immigration from certain countries.

    Of the 10,790 asylum claims received from March to September of this year, the refugee board has processed 592, or 5.4 per cent. Of those claims 69 per cent, or 408 cases, were granted asylum, while 141 were rejected. Forty-three other claims were either abandoned or withdrawn.

    The acceptance rate for the border-crossers is even higher than the 63-per-cent overall rate for asylum-seekers in 2016.

    One expert said the group’s high acceptance rate could be skewed if the refugee board is prioritizing cases from countries that tend to have stronger claims.

    However, academics and refugee advocates also emphasize the data show the border-crossers have a legitimate need for protection.

    “The numbers show that the majority of the so-called border-crossers have genuine asylum claims. The message I take is that the Canadian refugee system is working. It is doing its job,” said Queen’s University immigration and refugee law professor Sharry Aiken.

    Aiken and others are concerned that only a small fraction of the claims have been processed so far.

    “The refugee board is under-resourced despite the spike in the number of claims. With the U.S. temporary protection of the Haitians in the country ending in January, Canada will see another spike of border-crossers and we need to be ready for it,” she said.

    The experts also question the validity of the Canada-U.S. Safe Third Country Agreement, which is based on the assumption the two countries have comparable asylum systems and bans refugees from seeking asylum in both.

    The agreement doesn’t apply to those who cross into Canada at unmarked points along the border, which critics say encourages asylum-seekers to make dangerous treks through no man’s land, most commonly in Quebec, B.C. and in Manitoba.

    A recent Ipsos poll found many Canadians doubted if border-crossers are legitimate refugees, with 67 per cent saying these migrants were trying to bypass the legal immigration process.

    A separate poll by Angus Reid found that 57 per cent of respondents disapproved of Ottawa’s handling of the border-crossers, with 53 per cent of the participants in the survey saying Canada was being “too generous” to the asylum-seekers.

    In recent months the majority of the border-crossers have been Haitians, who have been staying in the U.S. under a special immigration designation by the Department of Homeland Security. However, their special status is due to expire by the end of the year and the 58,000 Haitians there must leave the U.S.

    The refugee board has been pushing for additional resources to deal with surge in claimants, a request that so far has been ignored by Ottawa. On Wednesday the board took the unusual step of publicizing the processing data of the “irregular” border claims.

    “Whether a refugee is admitted at a border crossing or makes a refugee claim after having entered Canada is irrelevant to whether she is in danger in her country,” said Raoul Boulakia of the Refugee Lawyers Association of Ontario.

    “It is troubling that public discourse has fallen into discussing these refugee claimants as if they are different. They are refugee claimants. That means the refugee claimant’s case must be adjudicated fairly and impartially, and the question for the refugee board to answer is whether she is at risk in her country.”

    According to the refugee board, 160 of the 10,790 border-crossers have been detained because they are deemed a danger to the public, are unlikely to appear for examination or are “inadmissible” on grounds of security and criminality, or simply for failing to provide proper identification.

    Among the 61 people who were deemed inadmissible, 34 have been ordered to be removed from Canada; one was prohibited from seeking asylum; three were allowed to stay in the country; and six withdrew their claims. One person failed to show up for the admissibility hearing. The rest are awaiting a final decision.

    Janet Dench, of the Canadian Council for Refugees, believes the relatively high acceptance rate is likely the result of the refugee board’s policy to expedite claims from certain priority countries, including Afghanistan, Burundi, Egypt, Eritrea, Iraq, Syria and Yemen.

    However, so far, the data do seem to the vindicate border-crossers, who are viewed as illegal economic migrants by some Canadians. “The statistics highlight the fact that the majority of those crossing the border for asylum need our protection,” Dench said.

    Critics have been calling on Ottawa to suspend the Safe Third Country Agreement, which was introduced in 2004 to limit refugees to making an asylum claim in the first of the two countries they arrive in, in order to avoid duplicate claims that would clog both systems.

    “The agreement is not functional. Guarding irregular border-crossing is straining our resources,” said Queen’s University’s Aiken. “If the government wants to have a grip of the (refugee) flow, they should suspend the agreement and have people come through the regular port of entry.”

    Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    The refugee board declined to comment about the Safe Third Country Agreement, but said it currently has 40,800 claims in the backlog, in addition to 5,300 pending cases filed under the old rules before December 2012. Claimants are expected to wait 17 months for an asylum hearing.

    https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...ed-asylum.html

    Seems like a pretty high number. Surely if they were refugees they should have gotten asylum in USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneman View Post
    Seems like a pretty high number. Surely if they were refugees they should have gotten asylum in USA?
    What makes you say that? Particularly if they're Muslim for from a Muslim majority country. Unless you're a doctor or a refugee fleeing with millions in cash Canada's the much smarter bet. The President literally ran on a platform of fuck anything not American and even then if you're not one of the 50 he's taken a fuck you too attitude since being elected. Deportations of Hatians by the current executive definitely seems the most probably, almost absolutely for sure, case so why the hell wouldn't you take a shot at Candada?
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    Now objectively prove that's a bad thing.

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    69% of cases reviewed thus far. If they are prioritizing cases from most likely to least likely as is suggested in the article...then that number will drop.
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    If you advertise your country as a sanctuary for third world, unskilled nobodies then this is what happens
    Me not that kind of Orc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsybob View Post
    If you advertise your country as a sanctuary for third world, unskilled nobodies then this is what happens
    Unfortunately that is all we are getting. Even under our previous government, the system hasn't done anything to prioritize skilled immigrants, it's just a facade.

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    "New data show 69% of illegal border-crossers are being granted asylum"

    Nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by JQuill View Post
    "New data show 69% of illegal border-crossers are being granted asylum"

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    Such a disingenuous title. 69% of processed requests, which is a drop in the bucket. Less than 600 have been processed in those 7 months, 5.4% of total claims which is over 15,000. Most of these people are going to start getting sent back to the USA or deported rather than keeping them in tent cities along the border with winter coming. And the weather predictions right now are suggesting that this winter could be really nasty for snowfall. So less than 5% of total claims have been accepted, which is a small number. I would imagine that less than 25% will ultimately get asylum status.
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