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    Will we ever have chest armor / robes that aren't just bodypaint

    One thing that still bothers me every now and then is that NPC's in this game look so much more awesome than we can. Every single chest armor, every single robe, is exactly the same shape just with a different texture...

    Look at Arthas' model in Culling. So much more is possible here. The cape draped around his shoulder looks so awesome. The only cloaks we have are just a square with the same texture copy pasted on both sides. With the last few expansions they've made some variations shape wise, some quite ridiculous, but there's still so much room for improvement.

    Look at Khadgar's model. Now THAT is a battle mage. Despite him being a caster, he isn't simply wearing a dress. His armor is complex, with multiple layers of detail.

    Look at Gul'dan. As a warlock of his power, he doesn't need much armor to protect him. He's wearing nothing but rags, adorned and decorated with several minor attachments such as chains hanging from his sides.

    We have improved character models now, but the armor we dress up in still takes away from that. Shoulders look awesome most of the time, and they've definitely made improvements with belts and boots. But the most important part, chest armor, is still lacking.

    Any chance we will ever get something better? Or is this just the limit of the engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustRob View Post
    One thing that still bothers me every now and then is that NPC's in this game look so much more awesome than we can. Every single chest armor, every single robe, is exactly the same shape just with a different texture...

    Look at Arthas' model in Culling. So much more is possible here. The cape draped around his shoulder looks so awesome. The only cloaks we have are just a square with the same texture copy pasted on both sides. With the last few expansions they've made some variations shape wise, some quite ridiculous, but there's still so much room for improvement.

    Look at Khadgar's model. Now THAT is a battle mage. Despite him being a caster, he isn't simply wearing a dress. His armor is complex, with multiple layers of detail.

    Look at Gul'dan. As a warlock of his power, he doesn't need much armor to protect him. He's wearing nothing but rags, adorned and decorated with several minor attachments such as chains hanging from his sides.

    We have improved character models now, but the armor we dress up in still takes away from that. Shoulders look awesome most of the time, and they've definitely made improvements with belts and boots. But the most important part, chest armor, is still lacking.

    Any chance we will ever get something better? Or is this just the limit of the engine?
    well when you look back at some of the expansions, we got 3D boots in cata and 3D belts in mop (or was it wod?), so who knows, 1 day maybe we will get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustRob View Post
    One thing that still bothers me every now and then is that NPC's in this game look so much more awesome than we can. Every single chest armor, every single robe, is exactly the same shape just with a different texture...

    Look at Arthas' model in Culling. So much more is possible here. The cape draped around his shoulder looks so awesome. The only cloaks we have are just a square with the same texture copy pasted on both sides. With the last few expansions they've made some variations shape wise, some quite ridiculous, but there's still so much room for improvement.

    Look at Khadgar's model. Now THAT is a battle mage. Despite him being a caster, he isn't simply wearing a dress. His armor is complex, with multiple layers of detail.

    Look at Gul'dan. As a warlock of his power, he doesn't need much armor to protect him. He's wearing nothing but rags, adorned and decorated with several minor attachments such as chains hanging from his sides.

    We have improved character models now, but the armor we dress up in still takes away from that. Shoulders look awesome most of the time, and they've definitely made improvements with belts and boots. But the most important part, chest armor, is still lacking.

    Any chance we will ever get something better? Or is this just the limit of the engine?
    Are you blind or do you just stick to those "good old" vanilla/tbs tier sets?

    New armors indeed have 3D parts on them, some more, some less.

    Look at the new rogue tier. Does that look like a simple texture?

    Pointless thread.

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    What i want is this:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Louz View Post
    Are you blind or do you just stick to those "good old" vanilla/tbs tier sets?

    New armors indeed have 3D parts on them, some more, some less.

    Look at the new rogue tier. Does that look like a simple texture?

    Pointless thread.
    The one here? http://www.wowhead.com/news=266665/t...nd-modelviewer

    The chest, legs and even boots in that case are, yes "simple textures".

    All chest armour in WoW, with AFAIK, zero exceptions, is a simple texture. If you have chest armour that isn't list it.

    WoW cannot do proper 3D armour, because chests cannot have any 3D aspects AT ALL, and legs can only have some stuff bolted to the outside of them - the base has to be a flat texture. These are the key areas of armour, and WoW falls down on them.

    This is unlike virtually all other MMOs, note, including some that PRE-DATE WoW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurhetemec View Post
    The one here? http://www.wowhead.com/news=266665/t...nd-modelviewer

    The chest, legs and even boots in that case are, yes "simple textures".

    All chest armour in WoW, with AFAIK, zero exceptions, is a simple texture. If you have chest armour that isn't list it.

    WoW cannot do proper 3D armour, because chests cannot have any 3D aspects AT ALL, and legs can only have some stuff bolted to the outside of them - the base has to be a flat texture. These are the key areas of armour, and WoW falls down on them.

    This is unlike virtually all other MMOs, note, including some that PRE-DATE WoW!
    Maybe look it up ingame, not on some 3rd party website with shitty pictures and model viewer.

    New armor is showing up mostly incomplete - without the 3D stuff on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    What i want is this:


    well these models are renderd with those clothes on, once you would remove them, there wouldnt be anything underneath, these arent like player models, that you can swap armor

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    When they stop supporting people who play wow on potatoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louz View Post
    Are you blind or do you just stick to those "good old" vanilla/tbs tier sets?

    New armors indeed have 3D parts on them, some more, some less.

    Look at the new rogue tier. Does that look like a simple texture?

    Pointless thread.
    yes they do, those bags, knives, etc. are bolted to the belt, we had 3d belts for a few years now, the OP wants 3D chest pieces

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    The Odyn raid plate armor is 3d. Don't know if the others are.

    But all of them should be, really

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquinan View Post
    When they stop supporting people who play wow on potatoes.
    This isn't gonna happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louz View Post
    Maybe look it up ingame, not on some 3rd party website with shitty pictures and model viewer.

    New armor is showing up mostly incomplete - without the 3D stuff on them.
    You literally don't know what you are talking about.

    You can look it up wherever you like.

    The chest will always remain a flat texture. Period.

    The legs will always be a flat texture but can have some stuff bolted on them.

    That will not change until WoW does a major model tech change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aquinan View Post
    When they stop supporting people who play wow on potatoes.
    Has absolutely nothing to do with that. Other games from 2004 had more advanced tech than WoW on this (EQ2, for example). DAoC, from 2001, had more advanced tech for this when WoW came out as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valky94 View Post
    yes they do, those bags, knives, etc. are bolted to the belt, we had 3d belts for a few years now, the OP wants 3D chest pieces

    Get your eyes checked.

    Oh and fyi the popped up collar is a part of the chest armor, not the helm.

    And for the wise-ass poster above - they could make it 3D all the way, it would just mean they need to make more models which would take more time, that's all.

    WoW has different models for each race and gender and each armor part is separate.

    Other games either use two bodies - male and female - and design stuff for those two (like Elder scrolls game, using same body, only swapping head). Or they use different bodies, but then the armor very limited as far as pieces go and not so varied.

    It woudn't mean "change tech", it would mean a lot of work.
    Last edited by Louz; 2017-10-21 at 06:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louz View Post

    Get your eyes checked.
    thats still a texture with stuff bolted to it, not proper 3D armor

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    Whenever this discussion comes up, I always think about the masquerade set from guild wars2. How awesome it would be if we had chest pieces like that in wow. Not talking about it being .. scandalous.. more that its more than just bodypaint as you describe it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Louz View Post

    Get your eyes checked.
    He isn't wrong though, excl 3D pieces on trousers and jacket it's just a "bodypaint", but armour pieces don't have their own models, they just use models of related body parts.

    Normally armour has its own model that replaces corresponding body part entirely.
    Last edited by ls-; 2017-10-21 at 06:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightspark View Post
    This isn't gonna happen
    IKR, biggest hing holding the engine back atm

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