Battle for Azeroth Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Ghargatuloth]

The only argument I can make against that is eventually you do stress that love past a breaking point.

I think WoW, if this all is true, will have more elf variants than ANY other fantasy setting. Hell, even Everquest, with it's like 20 races, has 3 Elves and no more. High, Wood, and Dark.

WoW would have: Blood, Void, Night, Other Night. Plus their evolutionary relatives Troll. And Naga would still exist as an offshoot of Elves. And this is without getting into things like Harpies and Banshees. Or Undead Elves.

Oh and I forgot the San'layn exist.

First off, this epitomizes opinion... Second off, if they did manage to cause stress or fatigue over elves, it might cause some people to choose some other race. I sort of doubt anyone would outright quit over it. (Mind you, I mean permanently quit)

[Hitei]

The only argument I can make against that is eventually you do stress that love past a breaking point.

I think WoW, if this all is true, will have more elf variants than ANY other fantasy setting. Hell, even Everquest, with it's like 20 races, has 3 Elves and no more. High, Wood, and Dark.

WoW would have: Blood, Void, Night, Other Night. Plus their evolutionary relatives Troll. And Naga would still exist as an offshoot of Elves. And this is without getting into things like Harpies and Banshees. Or Undead Elves.

Oh and I forgot the San'layn exist.

Altmer (High Elves)
Bosmer (Wood Elves)
Dunmer (Dark Elves)
Aldmer (ancient elves)
Orsimer (Orcs, an offshoot of Aldmer)
Ayleid (Wild Elves)
Chimer (Changed Ones, offshoot of Aldmer)
Dwemer (Deep elves)
Snow Elves
Falmer (the corrupted, twisted form of Snow Elves)
Breton (Humans with Elven heritage)
Maormer (Sea Elves)

[Chickat]

Guys my friend works at Blizzard and he leaked me the expansion title.

World of Warcraft:Light Precipitation over Kul'tiras and surrounding Isles.

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Yup, hence we like Marlamin's title speculation

Though I'd change it to Storm upon Kul'Tiras.

Both names sound awful to me either way.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Guys my friend works at Blizzard and he leaked me the expansion title.

World of Warcraft:Light Precipitation over Kul'tiras and surrounding Isles.

........

This post here is a winner.

[Chickat]

Guys only 40 pages left..

[Chickat]

The book isn't out until May 2018, mid / late summer 2018 = expansion launch then

June-August imo. July seems likely with June prepatch.

[Ghargatuloth]

Altmer (High Elves)
Bosmer (Wood Elves)
Dunmer (Dark Elves)
Aldmer (ancient elves)
Orsimer (Orcs, an offshoot of Aldmer)
Ayleid (Wild Elves)
Chimer (Changed Ones, offshoot of Aldmer)
Dwemer (Deep elves)
Snow Elves
Falmer (the corrupted, twisted form of Snow Elves)
Breton (Humans with Elven heritage)
Maormer (Sea Elves)

This is now my favorite post. Haha

[Chickat]

Lightning crashes confirms that Before the Storm is literal, not figurative.

Which makes me believe its a prequel to the expansion.

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........

This post here is a winner.

Thank my friend at blizzard.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Which makes me believe its a prequel to the expansion.

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Thank my friend at blizzard.

I mean it is a prequel. That much was established in the plot summary.

Also if they do update Azeroth, bets on if it's a Global Flood Event?

[Syegfryed]

then I guess it won't be a problem and blizzard won't add a bunch of pretty/popular races and there's nothing to debate

there is a problem when they are stupid

[Darkhallows]

In short:

Too many Elves.

They can easily add other "pretty" races that aren't Elves. Please god no more Elves.

Unfortunately for people that aren't fans of Elves, Legion was an expansion primarily about demons/elves who became like demons, and secondarily about Elves.

In addition, for there to be any payoff to the myriad of plots that existed in Legion aside from the Legion being defeated, it makes sense to introduce not one but two new elf-based races to the plot. One built from the Alleria plot point, and one from the Suramar plot point. To have any of the 7.3 threads go nowhere when they look like they're going somewhere is more egregious than adding Elves to a game full of Elves. Blizzard isn't selling to the people who specifically dislike Elves, they're selling to the general WoW playerbase, who by and large like Elves.

I mean it is a prequel. That much was established in the plot summary.

Also if they do update Azeroth, bets on if it's a Global Flood Event?

I'm thinking about that. I kind of want a global flood myself. If it *is* about Naga, maybe Azshara used some maguffin to raise Nazjatar from the sea and flood the surface at the same time. Hopefully a fair number of updated zones are unaffected by specifically that and more affected by the passage of time, though.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

In short:

Too many Elves.

They can easily add other "pretty" races that aren't Elves. Please god no more Elves.

Here we kinda get to the crux of the elf issue, and something I'd actually like to see polled on.

Would more elves really mean more diversity at this point? I know in my case Nightborne wouldn't move my needle an inch. Really, I think the only thing moving people's needle is High Elves (Void Elves).

So I'd love to see people respond to what elf they are now, and if they'd change to one of these new elves.

My guess is the new elves are barely touched, just 1:1 trade BElves for HElves, or worse, actively cannibalize the non-elves and make the elf majority even larger.

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No, it's called being closed minded and fearing being disappointed from inability to manage one's expectations.

lol and that from an anime web go on in your denial if you cant live in the real world.

Sure thing.

NA Population according to Realmpop:

how about using EU where more people play?....or both together but noooo....

[Ghargatuloth]

Here we kinda get to the crux of the elf issue, and something I'd actually like to see polled on.

Would more elves really mean more diversity at this point? I know in my case Nightborne wouldn't move my needle an inch. Really, I think the only thing moving people's needle is High Elves (Void Elves).

So I'd love to see people respond to what elf they are now, and if they'd change to one of these new elves.

My guess is the new elves are barely touched, just 1:1 trade BElves for HElves, or worse, actively cannibalize the non-elves and make the elf majority even larger.

With how much I see people ranting in various guilds, trade chat, forums, and such... I feel like Nightborne would actually cause more diversity. But I could be wrong.

Just see a lot of... Passionate people... On the subject... >_>

lol and that from an anime web go on in your denial if you cant live in the real world.

The irony here is that for the most part I don't even like anime. But regardless of that fact, if I did, I do not see how it'd be relevant.

But a MEMEster such as yourself with no internal resources kind of has to latch on to whatever they can get once their logical fallacies fail.

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I don't want Naga going to Alliance because I'm forced to play Horde with my mates.

Shall we call the police?....

[derpkitteh]

Altmer (High Elves)
Bosmer (Wood Elves)
Dunmer (Dark Elves)
Aldmer (ancient elves)
Orsimer (Orcs, an offshoot of Aldmer)
Ayleid (Wild Elves)
Chimer (Changed Ones, offshoot of Aldmer)
Dwemer (Deep elves)
Snow Elves
Falmer (the corrupted, twisted form of Snow Elves)
Breton (Humans with Elven heritage)
Maormer (Sea Elves)

senestral elves, the elves of yokuda

dwemer, euphoric elves with mesopotamian beards

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https://www.statista.com/statistics/...cters-by-race/

thanks for proving that new races dont sell boxes

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Guys my friend works at Blizzard and he leaked me the expansion title.

World of Warcraft:Light Precipitation over Kul'tiras and surrounding Isles.

WoW:LPoKasI?

[Darkhallows]

thanks for proving that new races dont sell boxes

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WoW:LPoKasI?

You're right. Blood Elves didn't sell Burning Crusade at all /s

If anything, this *does* prove that more pretty races will sell things.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

lol and that from an anime web go on in your denial if you cant live in the real world.

how about using EU where more people play?....or both together but noooo....

I can do EU, can't really do combined without a lot of math.

EU Pop:

Human - 17.1%
BElf - 14.5% (-2.6%)
NElf - 11.7% (-2.8%)
Orc - 8.3% (-3.4%)
Undead - 7.5% (-0.8%)
Tauren - 6.8% (-0.7%)
Troll - 6.2% (-0.6%)
Draenei - 6% (-0.2%)
Pandaren (Combined) - ~5.4% (-0.6%)
Worgen - 5.3% (-0.1%)
Dwarf - 4.5% (-0.8%)
Gnome - 3.9% (-0.6%)
Goblin - 2.9% (-1%)

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But a MEMEster such as yourself with no internal resources kind of has to latch on to whatever they can get once their logical fallacies fail.

the only logical fails where provided by you