Battle for Azeroth Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[KrakHed]

Sounds awful and overloaded.

Azshara should be her own expansion same with Nzoth also fuck Void shit up the ass for as many years as possible before we go to outer space.

Overloaded? That seemed like a pretty barebone idea to me. Why would one even separate Azshara and N'zoth expansions when they both have clear oceanic themes? Together, they add more variety to a proper sea expansion.

[Directionalk9]

Absolutely, but Im talking player characters. Obviously there is a disconnect between our characters and the majority of NPC races. We have powers and strength. One could say the Mag'har could be warlocks and not be green due to precise mastery of the Fel. THe same thing that prevents human warlocks from becoming fel infested, or any other race.

Like druids, lorewise(iirc), should only have mastery of one form, where our druids have all the forms.

Sure, but it it doesn’t feel right to retcon something that doesn’t need to be retconned.
That was just one example, of the four suspected sub-races, I don’t believe there to be any evidence of Sunwalker Highmountain Tauren.
Also I feel some of the appeal of sub-races, is that they can change up the class/race combos. Something Blizz should’ve been more cognizant of in Cataclysm. Dwarf Shaman being a good example.

[RippedLife]

we would easily have 5k+ pages if theres was one ACTUAL hint from blizzard via twitter

[Deleted]

The Tel'abar leak sounds exactly like something Blizz NOT would do.

corrected your mistake, your walcum

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Overloaded? That seemed like a pretty barebone idea to me. Why would one even separate Azshara and N'zoth expansions when they both have clear oceanic themes? Together, they add more variety to a proper sea expansion.

Not to mention Blizzard is creative enough to add variety. I mean Broken Isles wasn't all demons and Fel. (Until maybe Broken Shore and Argus).

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Also BTW. For anyone discounting a new spec for hunters, Blizzard has done that before.
Guardian Druid in Cata. Before it was part of Feral.

[Renley]

Also BTW. For anyone discounting a new spec for hunters, Blizzard has done that before.
Guardian Druid in Cata. Before it was part of Feral.

This. Plus, they kinda took one of our specs away, with Survival(a pretty massive mistake). They could easily add this, with old SV mechanics. Pretty applicable. Turn old SV into melee+void ranger, like old feral turned into feral+guardian. Plus, when they add new classes, they added 2 to 3 new specs to the game, that don't apply to the other classes. And no one freaks out about that.

[Aeula]

Also BTW. For anyone discounting a new spec for hunters, Blizzard has done that before.
Guardian Druid in Cata. Before it was part of Feral.

That was in MoP wasn't it?

[Deleted]

Also BTW. For anyone discounting a new spec for hunters, Blizzard has done that before.
Guardian Druid in Cata. Before it was part of Feral.

Yeah, but Feral Tanks were a Thing since TBC so it just made sense to split it. Creating a Specc out of thin air for no reason makes less sense.

[Renley]

Yeah, but Feral Tanks were a Thing since TBC so it just made sense to split it. Creating a Specc out of thin air for no reason makes less sense.

New classes are exactly this. And they did it for hunters in Legion, with Survival. Literally brand new spec out of nowhere.

[vondevon]

Sounds awful and overloaded.

Azshara should be her own expansion same with Nzoth also fuck Void shit up the ass for as many years as possible before we go to outer space.

Why? We cleansed the Emerald Dream of the Nightmare and defeated Xavius in one tier. We topped the remnants of the Ogre Empire in one tier. We cleansed Pandaria of the Sha in a single tier.

It's pretty common for the initial threat to be dealt with pretty early on as a lead-in to the greater threat. If not what I suggested, then scratch the 3rd tier and move that to the 1st tier of the following xpac. Either way (the pacing isn't important) but rather the notion that all of the fighting we do up to and including N'Zoth was all part of his plan so he could collect as many souls as possible before sacrificing himself to summon the Void Lords. Wasn't that kind of the point of the Void Lords sending the OGs into space in the first place?

[Deleted]

New classes are exactly this. And they did it for hunters in Legion, with Survival. Literally brand new spec out of nowhere.

And so is Shadow or any specc that was reworked. They just play completely different but are not "new" speccs. And I don't think it makes sense to give one class 4 DPS speccs. Just seems too bloated.

[vondevon]

Also BTW. For anyone discounting a new spec for hunters, Blizzard has done that before.
Guardian Druid in Cata. Before it was part of Feral.

Yes but there's a difference between splitting an existing (and admittedly crowded) spec into 2, rather than creating an entirely new spec and only giving it to 1 class. Basically everyone would have to re-roll huntards to experience the new thing they spent the last 1+yr(s) on. Extremely poor design.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Yes but there's a difference between splitting an existing (and admittedly crowded) spec into 2, rather than creating an entirely new spec and only giving it to 1 class. Basically everyone would have to re-roll huntards to experience the new thing they spent the last 1+yr(s) on. Extremely poor design.

Yet nobody complained about DK, Monk, and DH being the same way?

Also, old survival got badly merged into marksman. Split them up, add some void.

[randomnamegenerator16]

And so is Shadow or any specc that was reworked. They just play completely different but are not "new" speccs. And I don't think it makes sense to give one class 4 DPS speccs. Just seems too bloated.

Delete the failed experiment called melee survival and add another ranged spec and I will be more than happy.

[Renley]

And so is Shadow or any specc that was reworked. They just play completely different but are not "new" speccs. And I don't think it makes sense to give one class 4 DPS speccs. Just seems too bloated.

No other spec got what SV got. It wasn't "reworked," it's a fully complete brand new spec and role. It went from a ranged spec using dots, to a melee spec with little dots, brand new abilities, talents, rotation, etc. It's a completely new spec. To say it's the same rework as other specs and classes is not comparable, at all.

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Yes but there's a difference between splitting an existing (and admittedly crowded) spec into 2, rather than creating an entirely new spec and only giving it to 1 class. Basically everyone would have to re-roll huntards to experience the new thing they spent the last 1+yr(s) on. Extremely poor design.

Just like adding a new class, though. ANd just turn it into splitting old SV into melee and void ranger. Done, same concept.

[Shadochi]

we would easily have 5k+ pages if theres was one ACTUAL hint from blizzard via twitter

We are shitposters! We don't need hints to pump numbers up!

[Directionalk9]

Delete the failed experiment called melee survival and add another ranged spec and I will be more than happy.

Four range specs on a Hunter feels wildly redundant. Four specs on a class that are all only DPS feels like a waste.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Delete the failed experiment called melee survival and add another ranged spec and I will be more than happy.

Nah, leave it, people actually enjoy it.

[Sentynel]

Well did we ever see non-orcs drinking demon blood? Who knows maybe we would get green humans.

Hulk confirmed.