He quit job to qualify for Medicare for cancer treatment

[Heladys]

They are beggars.

If I set up a GoFundMe for me wanting to get oral, will you fund me?

Fund you? I'll flat out pay the 10 bucks it would cost for the most jagged-toothed hobo with lockjaw in town to do the job while we shock him in the ass repeatedly with a cattle-prod.

[Masark]

You try picking up a dictionary. No reason to be so ignorant in the information era we live in.

He can't do that. Knowing the definitions of words would make him "overeducated".

[IIamaKing]

The reality is this:
Healthcare costs money. A lot of it.

It's not free and never will be, somebody is always picking up the tab.

For those noobs who say "less national defense, more healthcare" - you obviously don't understand the #1 purpose of government= protect the citizens (hint -its not to provide fee stuff and a great quality of life).

So, you DO think healthcare should be provided or not? Having in place a system to keep the populace healthy IS protecting them....

[Darth Vowrawn]

yes there is. you saying there isn't doesn't make it any truer.
awww....he's resorting to name calling the refuge of third grade playground debating.
come back when you can debate with the big boys.

What lovely hypocrisy. I guess, by your own standards, you're a "third grader"?

And, no, there isn't any difference between them, no matter what your Socialist professors tell you. Find me a successful Socialist country. Just one.

Ohhh, right, it doesn't, and never will, exist.

[Zan15]

I’m no expert but I don’t think that’s how Medicaid works. The brackets determine how much you’re responsible for paying based on your income but the coverage is all the same. In my state making minimums wage of 8.25 you’d pay nothing for medical care for a family of three.

And at such a low income his taxes for Medicaid would have been next to nothing. Even after 13 years he would have paid like $20k in taxes for it. That won’t cover a single chemo treatment let alone all the other costs.


Texas Medicaid income guidelines for a family of three:

If the monthly income is $2,246 or less, or the yearly income is $26,952 or less, you may qualify for Children's Medicaid.
If the monthly income is $3,353 or less, or the yearly income is $40,232 or less, you may qualify for CHIP

At $7.25/hr he would barely make more than $15k per year @40 hrs per week. Why did he have to quit his job to get on Medicaid?

that is what i said it does not pass the smell test since his income would have qualified him for such large subsidy payments that his montly insurance payment would have been 0-83 dollars depending on which plan he picked.

some with deductibles as low as 2500 bucks.

[Darth Vowrawn]

You try picking up a dictionary. No reason to be so ignorant in the information era we live in.

Don't need to, as I already know what Socialism is. A society controlled entirely by the "workers", and centrally planned and organized for their benefit (always using a giant governmental bureaucracy as the "means" of redistribution, resulting in massive death and oppression).

But, no, please, continue to infer that anyone who isn't a Socialist is a moron.

[Argarock]

What lovely hypocrisy. I guess, by your own standards, you're a "third grader"?

And, no, there isn't any difference between them, no matter what your Socialist professors tell you. Find me a successful Socialist country. Just one.

Ohhh, right, it doesn't, and never will, exist.

Try googling "Scandinavia"
Greetings from Socialist Norway, The greatest country in the world.

[Mafic]

This is just goig gto turn into a "Healthcare should be free" across the board anyways, and I agree. No reason it shouldn't be, especially for the so called "Greatest Country".

Side note, normal people aren't paying jack, your taxes go on far more useless unneeded shit, than healthcare. But most likely, this is just a troll thread designed to bait people.

Exactly.

System is going to collapse and universal health care will be the norm. If you want extra you pay a private insurer.

[Darth Vowrawn]

Try googling "Scandinavia"
Greetings from Socialist Norway, The greatest country in the world.

You mean the country that is economically similar to Denmark, which told Bernie to "piss off" when he called them "Socialist"? Yeah, not a "Socialist" country, sorry. Try harder.

[Vankrys]

You mean the country that is economically similar to Denmark, which told Bernie to "piss off" when he called them "Socialist"? Yeah, not a "Socialist" country, sorry. Try harder.

i think it's just semantic. Many european countries can "appear" socialist for many americans because of their social laws and programs regarding healthcare, education, unemployment etc...

Denmark may not want to be refered to as a "socialist" country in the economy standpoint (free market and all) but the people of denmark enjoys a lot of social benefit americans don't.

i think that was the point bernie sanders tried to make.

[Mormolyce]

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And, no, there isn't any difference between them, no matter what your Socialist professors tell you. Find me a successful Socialist country. Just one.

Ohhh, right, it doesn't, and never will, exist.

Uh, you mean one that provides universal healthcare?

Like... most of the Western world outside the US?

[SL1200]

Republican healthcare system says he should just die. His family will be better off without him. He got sick. He's weak and must be purged from society.

[Vankrys]

Republican healthcare system says he should just die. His family will be better off without him. He got sick. He's weak and must be purged from society.

i think republicans prefer their citizen not sick. If he's sick, he's not really a citizen.

[Cerus]

My understanding is that he was ineligible, and would have had a nearly 7500 deductible of he bought the cheapest plan on the exchange.

The maximum income for Medicaid is insanely low.

I posted the cutoffs for Texas Medicaid in a previous post and someone else posted the exchange costs. His income at full time minimum wage is nearly half the cutoff amounts for a family of three for Medicaid.

[TEHPALLYTANK]

So what do American taxes go to or what do Americans want there taxes to go to if not stuff like this?

Most people who aren't idiots want infrastructure spending, as it improves public safety in addition to providing stable jobs. A good number of maintenance jobs aren't likely to be threatened by automation for at least several decades.

Clean energy is another good investment to make; wind turbines need to be manufactured, installed, and maintained (also if anyone tries to make the stupid excuse of "wind turbines are bad for birds", domestic cats kill literally millions of birds in the US each year).

[RaoBurning]

Not sure why we have to point this out over and over again but....

AMERICANS PAY ALMOST AS MUCH FOR PUBLIC HEALTHCARE AS BRITS DO!

...but you do not have public healthcare.

The difference in how much taxes you pay for public healthcare in just about 20% compared to most of western Europe...except we have public healthcare. Americans pay a little below $3k a year and Europeans pay a little over $3k a year except for of course, again, we GET PUBLIC HEALTHCARE. For the privilege of having statistically the worst healthcare in the developed world, Americans pay a little under 10k a year per person...congratulations!

This is always my favorite data point to pay out. We pay more than the UK per capita in public funds alone, and a hair over double when factoring in private spending. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/...ther-countries

And for that we get no real public healthcare. We'd save a metric ton of money just getting down to the next most expensive country's levels. Could you imagine an extra 5% of our GDP just freed up to do other shit?

[Barnabas]

http://www.kens5.com/life/working-th...ance/486381772

Disgusting!
He is obviously pretty dumb for not buying insurance, but that was his own choice.

But why should normal people pay for his own stupidity?

No the problem is cancer drugs are priced way too high. Even if you have insurance they shouldn't charge the insurance as much. Yet with programs like ACA they don't care because they have taxpayer money to cover whatever they want to charge and a dumb public wanting universal coverage when we should first actually reign costs in.

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-s...ms-study-finds

[Bigbazz]

So you call the guy dumb for not buying insurance that he can't afford, and then you berate him for not having a high paid job? Like what is this, are people worthless to you if they don't have a high paid job? If the guy lived in the UK he would get free healthcare no matter if he's earning nothing or millions, healthcare and education should be a basic right in any first world country.

He's quitting his job to qualify for medical care, he's making the logical choice to save his own life as per the system.. If he lived in the UK or other countries with similar healthcare he wouldn't need to quit his job while getting his health issues sorted, still paying taxes and contributing to society while supporting his family and not dying. But he's not living in the UK, so he has to follow the system.

[harruin]

I posted the cutoffs for Texas Medicaid in a previous post and someone else posted the exchange costs. His income at full time minimum wage is nearly half the cutoff amounts for a family of three for Medicaid.

That's only for the kids. He would be getting a massive discount through obamacare if his wife worked, but ACA really banked on the idioitic medicaid expansion to cover people making minimum wage so if he was the only one who had taxable income they wouldn't get any subsidies. Try it out yourself, anything below $23,000 a year is no subsidy.

https://www.healthcare.gov/see-plans/

[shimerra]

You mean the country that is economically similar to Denmark, which told Bernie to "piss off" when he called them "Socialist"? Yeah, not a "Socialist" country, sorry. Try harder.

Scandinavia provides a ton of services at a level unintelligent types like yourself would call socialism or communism even. The fact that they don't consider themselves that just goes to show how stupid people like yourself are. By the American political definition they're a socialist big governments hellscape.