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    How many realities must OP reject because they're too complicated to understand? Spheres, taxes, what's next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    Except she just did. And it was brilliant.
    No she didn't. 40% or 50% depending on when the tax cut happens, of the American people (aka the first 4 or 5 drinkers ) still actually pay taxes and don't "drink" for free. That's a HUGE implication of the story that is factually not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    In your dreams. This is resonating and reverberating throughout social media as people hear it. Sure some economists and tax specialists didn't like it... they're part of the problem. And sure she treated a room full of reporters like gradeschoolers: there's often no distinction between the two. This is what draining the swamp looks like.
    Rofl, just keep chugging that kool-aid - hopefully they'll have it in prison. Draining the swamp is almost irrelevant at this point. We have to drain the White House of the crime boss and family we "elected". Then we can discuss the swamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    An opinion not shared by any respected economist that I've seen yet.
    But as he eloquently put these economists, the experts on economic matters, the authority that people would normally follow, are indeed part of the problem, hence their opinion is invalid.

    One must wonder then in their place who the OP thinks is ideal in providing economic insight.

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    "So if the first four people pay nothing for beer, and the richest pays $52, then the --"
    "Excuse me!"
    "...yes?"
    "Did you skip the part where the first four people pay nothing for beer, because the richest doesn't pay them what he's contractually obligated?"
    "...what?"
    "Well, they have no money, because they did a job for the richest beer drinker, but the richest beer drinker didn't pay them. So they can't afford beer. I mean, it's great that the richest person is paying for the beer, but wouldn't the poorest four people rather just be paid for the work they did? Then they could buy their own beer."
    "I...that's not in the script..."
    "Excuse me!"
    "Hold on a -- "
    "Is the beer domestic, or imported? I mean, the rich guy probably wants everyone else to drink cheap, domestic beer, you know, the watered-down shit like PBR. Is he also drinking cheap, watery shit like Coors Light?"
    "No way. The richest guy is Heineken or higher."
    "Heh. So much for 'drink American'."
    "We seem to be getting off my carefully prepared narrative -- "
    "Excuse me!"
    "Oh for fuck's sake -- "
    "Did you skip the part where the richest guy has been paying less and less of his share every year? He's paying the least he's paid in a while, and now he's supposed to pay even less?"
    "Also, we looked at the richest guy's bar tab once in 1995. That fucker didn't pay for a single beer."
    "Yeah, I mean, he says he'll show his bar tab at closing time, but that was weeks ago. Is he really paying $52?"
    "And isn't he pushing to get rid of the Alternative Minimum Beer?"
    "And isn't he also pushing to let the bartender give away entire kegs to rich people when his shift ends? You know, the Closing Time Beer?"
    "Look, none of you are accepting my scripted, implausible analogy -- "
    "And the rich guy made the bartender close one of the bathrooms to pay for the 20% off. How's that going to help?"
    "Plus the rich guy took out ads bad-mouthing all the liquor stores in town, so it's harder for the bartender to get the good stuff."
    "And he's building a Wall between the bar and Denny's!"
    "None of those analogies make sense!"
    "You started it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    In your dreams. This is resonating and reverberating throughout social media as people hear it. Sure some economists and tax specialists didn't like it... they're part of the problem. And sure she treated a room full of reporters like gradeschoolers: there's often no distinction between the two. This is what draining the swamp looks like.
    Wait.... according to you the problem with designing improvements to the tax system is the economists and tax specialists who are experts on the subject, and we should instead listen to a bunch of low education know-nothing right wingers commenting on twitter???

    Behold, the advocate for the idiocracy has spoken!

    Hell, you don't even believe the earth is a sphere.

    I'm laughing out load in real life.


    P.S. Have you ever tried drinking Brawndo, its got electrolytes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    My favorite part of the "Trump train" is when it gets to the station and tries to explain absolute nonsense as brilliant, and that anyone who doesn't label the nonsense as brilliant must be an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders reads the White House Press Corps an email that clearly explains the current American tax system, how the left views it, and what the left gets wrong about it...

    [video=youtube;c1E4sQzEcR8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1E4sQzEcR8[/vido]
    I actually feel dumber for having seen this. This was like watching a teacher read a story to preschoolers. This is one of the worst ways to ever get information across to anyone, especially to a room filled with reporters and those with actual knowledge of the economy. You cannot give information like this for something so complex, by doing so you not only treat those in the room as fucking toddlers, but also end up losing precious actual information about the plan and what that could do to the countries economy. The fact that they chose to deliver such information like this only shows that know nothing of what they are doing, the incredible lack of respect to those they deliver it to, and with their complete lack of ability to even relay that information at a preschool level they show they can't even do that right at the lowest levels of understanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    Except she just did. And it was brilliant.
    Kermit the Frog said it best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    About as brilliant as a Youtuber claiming gravity is a lie.
    Or that the Earth is flat?
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    I don't understand how you can make an anology about taxes, and think it's brilliant at the same time, without discussing income. Taxes are based off income, to try to explain how taxes work or how they are unfair without discussing the incomes of the people being taxed is just telling a lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeic View Post
    I don't understand how you can make an anology about taxes, and think it's brilliant at the same time, without discussing income. Taxes are based off income, to try to explain how taxes work or how they are unfair without discussing the incomes of the people being taxed is just telling a lie.
    It's how they explained it to Trump, probably. It's why he continues to be largely unable to speak on it beyond a few very specific data points and vague generalities. Then again, that's how he tackles every policy related issues, he's yet to really show any actual understanding of the issues and his administrations policies on pretty much anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    Except she just did. And it was brilliant.
    Like your brilliant idea that the earth is flat.

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    I want the old guy back. At least with that guy you kinda got the feeling he knew how ridiculous the shit he was saying was and he always had this "I cant believe Im the white house press guy and Im saying this shit" twinkle in his eyes. This one just seems to be dead inside.
    "And all those exclamation marks, you notice? Five?
    A sure sign of someone who wears his underpants on his head."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    Except she just did. And it was brilliant.
    You were convinced it was brilliant, before you even read it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    You were convinced it was brilliant, before you even read it.
    She could have just gone up there and farted and Trumpers would think it was brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    "So if the first four people pay nothing for beer, and the richest pays $52, then the --"
    "Excuse me!"
    "...yes?"
    "Did you skip the part where the first four people pay nothing for beer, because the richest doesn't pay them what he's contractually obligated?"
    "...what?"
    "Well, they have no money, because they did a job for the richest beer drinker, but the richest beer drinker didn't pay them. So they can't afford beer. I mean, it's great that the richest person is paying for the beer, but wouldn't the poorest four people rather just be paid for the work they did? Then they could buy their own beer."
    "I...that's not in the script..."
    "Excuse me!"
    "Hold on a -- "
    "Is the beer domestic, or imported? I mean, the rich guy probably wants everyone else to drink cheap, domestic beer, you know, the watered-down shit like PBR. Is he also drinking cheap, watery shit like Coors Light?"
    "No way. The richest guy is Heineken or higher."
    "Heh. So much for 'drink American'."
    "We seem to be getting off my carefully prepared narrative -- "
    "Excuse me!"
    "Oh for fuck's sake -- "
    "Did you skip the part where the richest guy has been paying less and less of his share every year? He's paying the least he's paid in a while, and now he's supposed to pay even less?"
    "Also, we looked at the richest guy's bar tab once in 1995. That fucker didn't pay for a single beer."
    "Yeah, I mean, he says he'll show his bar tab at closing time, but that was weeks ago. Is he really paying $52?"
    "And isn't he pushing to get rid of the Alternative Minimum Beer?"
    "And isn't he also pushing to let the bartender give away entire kegs to rich people when his shift ends? You know, the Closing Time Beer?"
    "Look, none of you are accepting my scripted, implausible analogy -- "
    "And the rich guy made the bartender close one of the bathrooms to pay for the 20% off. How's that going to help?"
    "Plus the rich guy took out ads bad-mouthing all the liquor stores in town, so it's harder for the bartender to get the good stuff."
    "And he's building a Wall between the bar and Denny's!"
    "None of those analogies make sense!"
    "You started it."
    I laughed so hard, I think one of my veins popped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I actually feel embarrassed for her right now. It's gotten so bad, that I actually pity her.
    I feel as sorry for her now, as I did when a certain other Sarah opened her mouth and garbage spewed out. The idiocy coming from SHS recently is rivaling that of Palin - and that's never a good thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Like your brilliant idea that the earth is flat.
    And that, dear fellow, means you've thrown in the towel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    And that, dear fellow, means you've thrown in the towel.
    What?

    Linking your past history of wilful reality denial and abject rejection of intelligent reasoning has no bearing on how people judge your character, and thus whether you should be trusted on other issues where intelligent reasoning is required? Is this what you are arguing?
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    I hear random chain emails from the 2000's paint an accurate picture of our budget (which isn't fixed), income (which isn't the same for all people) or the tax code in general (tax loopholes anyone?).

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