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    Quote Originally Posted by rda View Post
    She likely wants to kill as many of both A and H to get rid of them as powers and re-raise them as undead. That's boring, but logical.
    I think Sylvanas is smarter than that, and the rest of the Horde may not be wanting a war, so Sylvie will have to manipulate the shit out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorlax View Post
    How the fuck would an expansion that involves massive, massive changes to the factions the leaders and their territory be filler? If anything dicking around on a beach is filler.
    Because it doesn't make sense to wage war right after both factions have cooperated to destroy the Legion? It's a Cataclysm 2.0, essentially a filler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondium View Post
    I still can't get over how goddamn good that Shadowlands one looks.

    Nice job with all of those.
    I agree, Shadowlands looks dope AF.
    1) Load the amount of weight I would deadlift onto the bench
    2) Unrack
    3) Crank out 15 reps
    4) Be ashamed of constantly skipping leg day

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    Did I miss something? What's going on?

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    Man no new races no tropical islands nothing

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    The thing is, almost everyone of those fake leaks was wayyyyy more interesting than Genkis. That sounds just so boring somehow. Also, another faction war? Like, really, maybe even as a main theme, AGAIN? Meh

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    Shit just got real, can't wait to see Stormwindburn to ground.
    THE HORDE WILL ENDURE
    THE HORDE IS STRONG!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phinx View Post
    Did I miss something? What's going on?
    The prologue to Before the Storm was included in goodie bags. Wowhead posted scans.

    Sylvanas wants Stormwind. And is gonna use the Horde Army to do it.
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    Anyone else have the thought: Time to switch to horde?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    My guess is after going for Stormwind and fighting to a stalemate, Sylvanas instead sets her sights on Kul'tiras.

    That or whatever third party stops the fight retreats there.
    A 3rd party taking advantage of it definitely could work. And said 3rd party could also take over Orgrimmar to keep it even. Both lose their capital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimfrost View Post
    Man no new races no tropical islands nothing
    So sad -.- I was getting so hyped.

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    Sounds like another filler expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    I love the last one. 10/10 bamboozle would get bamboozled again.
    I think I like the last one the best too, though I got a bit lazy towards the end and didn't even bother adding any kind of planet or sphere in the middle...

    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    How fun was it to see people arguing over the legitimacy of Tides of Vengeance?
    Reading everyone's comments, especially on reddit, was some of the most fun I've had in a while. It was really hard not to say anything. Two people even made a video about it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    @ercarp At the same time I hate you, but at the same time I want to rub it in @JainaKulTirasBlizzCon face. :3 What do you think @Shadochi ?
    It was all in good fun, but you're free to at least slap me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderi View Post
    Anyone else have the thought: Time to switch to horde?
    I've been horde since I started playing. So my thought was "Time to remain horde."
    Hey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    Woah, who would've guessed Sylvanas would do something evil, unfounded and uncalled for? It is not like it has happened before.. right? Right?

    That being said, my usual perception of her as a villanous and malicious, yet well-written character is just getting bolded through this. However, this is exactly what we needed; more faction conflict. Take the ball away from huge threats, Old Gods, titans, Void Lords, Naaru and try to simplify it. Turn it into some good old resource and conquest-based story that doesn't have a higher purpose behind it other than surviving and winning.

    The one thing that catches me by surprise is that we'll possibly end up having orcs lead by Saurfang raise their voices against needless violence. Who would've thought that orcs would be the ones trying to advocate an undead high elf from starting a war.

    Saurfang will possibly become the Horde's pre-MoP Jaina.
    I'm just curious what this is all leading too...obviously this will create some faction conflict but we all know that the entire expansion isn't going to be HvA. They need leveling zones/raids/dungeons/etc...and all of that needs some sort of common enemy.

    One thing I'm looking forward to though. Jaina coming back in the middle of this invasion and being all "DID I NOT TELL YOU FOOLS!?!?" and then blasting Horde soldiers left and right with some Thunder King power.
    “The rains have ceased, and we have been graced with another beautiful day. But you are not here to see it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderi View Post
    Anyone else have the thought: Time to switch to horde?
    Already am Horde, and I love it...Good thing I played during Warcraft II on as the Horde.
    You can say it's a win, win.
    For the Horde!

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    Jaina was right. Suck it Anduin/Velen/Khadgar fans.

  18. #40058
    Quote Originally Posted by Konteil View Post
    waiting patiently in judgement. where is brother @Zoibert the Bear? and brother @Shadochi?




    Let's proceed brothers!

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    someone on reddit managed to snap a picture of the real logo
    https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/7aajqo/i_got_the_real_logo/


    Formerly known as Arafal

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    Embracing the classic Horde vs. Alliance aspect of the Warcraft universe would be very cool. For so long (too long) they've gone with storylines of ' we need to band together to eliminate a shared enemy'.

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