Alliance Takes Lordaeron but....

[thebigman154]

I can see Nightborne, but how are Highmountain a fuck you to the Alliance?

DAE alliance helped highmountain too so they should have not joined horde /S

[Katie45]

The horde actually only lose one zone, so it's probably safe to say its the same for the nelfs

[Zephre]

DAE alliance helped highmountain too so they should have not joined horde /S

Thing about comments like that is it works both ways. The horde helped the army of light, they shouldn't be alliance, see?

[Proudmong]

I can see Nightborne, but how are Highmountain a fuck you to the Alliance?

We stopped them getting overrun by worms and oversized rock idiots with a magical hammer, prevented Thunder Totem being collapsed into dirt, and united their tribes against the Legion.

[Mehrunes]

The horde actually only lose one zone, so it's probably safe to say its the same for the nelfs

Alliance controls Arathi, I saw mentions of Gilneas, it's idiotic for them to control the two and Tirisfal without controlling Hillsbrad and Silverpine to connect them, Alterac has been as good as empty for years and waits for someone to walk in and plant some flags, WPL cannot be held being surrounded by Alliance from multiple sides.

We stopped them getting overrun by worms and oversized rock idiots with a magical hammer, prevented Thunder Totem being collapsed into dirt, and united their tribes against the Legion.

Ah, from that perspective. I was looking at it more as a "Nightborne make a lot of sense as a subrace for both factions" thing.

[Katie45]

Alliance controls Arathi, I saw mentions of Gilneas, it's idiotic for them to control the two and Tirisfal without controlling Hillsbrad and Silverpine to connect them, Alterac has been as good as empty for years and waits for someone to walk in and plant some flags, WPL cannot be held being surrounded by Alliance from multiple sides.




Ah, from that perspective. I was looking at it more as a "Nightborne make a lot of sense as a subrace for both factions" thing.

Yes but blizzard said the undead still have southshore and silverpine

[Mehrunes]

Yes but blizzard said the undead still have southshore and silverpine

But the Forsaken don't really have Southshore even now <.< It's lethally toxic to everyone and is going to be for eons. And it seems the concept of supply lines is still lost on Blizzard. How the fuck does the Alliance even get to Undercity if they don't conquer those two? Land directly in Tirisfal, right on the front door of the Forsaken with no foothold and no momentum?

[Zaydin]

With the fact that Thalyssra and Mayla Highmountain are stabbing the Alliance in the back next expac it makes one wonder why Alliance players should even bother finishing the respective zones.

[Thundering]

New Main city for the Undead! icecrown! would be cool atleast=P

[Katie45]

What's going on with the blood elves and the draenei? Will them standing alone on a continent now mostly controlled by the opposite faction play into the story at all?
Though the big fortifcations have fallen, it's not like the Horde are completely landless. They still hold Silverpine, Southshore, and Quel'Danas. The whole point of the warfront in Arathi is to keep the bloodelves from taking Undercity back.

Is what blizzard said

[Torrasque]

I don't think that it is taken entire, or if so, then not for long since the warfront is in Arathi Highlands.

[Terongor]

Main thing i DON'T understand from all of this: Highmountain.

Dark Iron - of course
Zandalari - Duh
Nightborne - play the current game
Void Elf - We don't know shit but Aleria/Alliance related
LF Draenei - Sure makes sense
HIGHTMOUNTIAN - ???

Both factions did the same thing for them in Legion! Why pick a side?! NIghtborne they at least showed Sylgrin SHOWING INTEREST IN HORDE.

Well LF Draenai have had no conflict with orcs or the horde ever and they have only showed loyalty to naarus purposes so makes as much sense for them to join allys as does highmountain tribe to join the horde. Only one of them who held LF Draenais respects have had sides and that is Turalyon, but LF Draenai not so much. Name one major LF Draenai who have showed interest in Alliance(Turalyon isin't a draenai)

[Logwyn]

Exodar can just hover away...

I thought it is on Argus now?!

[Friendlyimmolation]

I thought it is on Argus now?!

Thats the vindicaar, Exodar is still on Azurmyst.

[Logwyn]

Thing about comments like that is it works both ways. The horde helped the army of light, they shouldn't be alliance, see?

Now we see the illogical path in this whole mess of "allied races". Unless Blizzard does some stupid recon and only the horde helped in high-mountain and in night-hold. And only the alliance helped in Argus.

But hey... we get to throw away all the uniting of the Paladins, Druids, Priests, and Shaman under one banner. I can see those three classes at the least not just throwing away all that was done in the Class Halls.

Only thing I can go with.... is the theory that something is controlling certain leaders of factions and races and causing them to start a war again to weaken both Alliance and Horde when it comes from the "shadows"......

[Skulltaker]

Dissappointed in how they are desperatly trying in cinematic to make Anduin the Enigmatic God King now. when hes just a little impressionable bitch with more daddy issues than Garrosh now it seems wielding his light. Mending the entire battlefield in a heroic marry sue way more cringe than Thrall ever was

You're a Sylvanas fan and you claim Anduin is an impressionable bitch? Really? Sylvanas is the posterboy for hollow onedimensional characters. At this point she's nothing but a plot device, like the eitire Horde. Oooh, look at Sylvanas, she's so complex. No, she's not. She's a poor mans Lich King, at best.

[Schattenlied]

I don't believe the Cenarion circle will survive Teldrasill burning.

that would make Malfurion the ultimate bitch.

The Cenarion Circle is more than just Night Elves, there are more than a few Tauren... It's neutral territory, if the horde take it over I don't think the Tauren will be very happy about it.

Also, owning the world tree does literally nothing for them, it's enchantment is gone... So, have fun with your new tree I guess?

I find discomfort though that the entire Army of the Light joins the Alliance.

Thats quite a big fuck you to the Horde after Antorus guessing the Windrunner reunion doesn't go too well.

And all of the Nightborne joining the Horde is just as big of a fuck you to the Alliance, who helped them just as much as the Horde helped the Army of the Light. Bad writing is bad, in reality, some from both factions would have joined both factions, but the vast majority would have likely just remained neutral.

[Terongor]

Alliance gets:
ruins of an old city.
Forsaken territory.
Stromgard, thats going to be udner siege the whole expac
Kul'tiras

Horde gets:
Ruins of Teldrassil
night elf territories (something they REALLY needed)
Zandalar

Thats all thats announced so far. There really is no favorite when it comes to territory.

Also we as a horde got most of the broken isles with highmountain Tauren and nightborne elves. When val'sharah and druids are still recuperating from nightmare and most of wardens killed by Legion. I do have thank alliance for making them easier for horde to control helping them get rid of their threats.

[Logwyn]

Thats the vindicaar, Exodar is still on Azurmyst.

Oops My bad!

[anaxie]

The Cenarion Circle is more than just Night Elves, there are more than a few Tauren... It's neutral territory, if the horde take it over I don't think the Tauren will be very happy about it.

Also, owning the world tree does literally nothing for them, it's enchantment is gone... So, have fun with your new tree I guess?




And all of the Nightborne joining the Horde is just as big of a fuck you to the Alliance, who helped them just as much as the Horde helped the Army of the Light. Bad writing is bad, in reality, some from both factions would have joined both factions, but the vast majority would have likely just remained neutral.

...... You do understand the Tree is not whats important. Its the Well of Magic below it.