If Anduin didnt have Mass Rez?

[Aurrora]

Tirion was able to mass res us in Icecrown Citadel. That was real in the lore and not just a game mechanic. It can be done but it's super duper rare.

Well, that was the spirit of Terenas Menethil that did it with the breaking of Frostmourne. Seems more like a special case of it happening than a mortal being able to do pull it off in the middle of a battle.

[Polybius]

If Sylvanas didnt have the Valkyr?

No, we would have just plague bombed your stupid asses.

Horde wouldn't be able to. The plague is toxic for the non-undead. And it's not like she can resurrect the other races (hint: she can't, rez magic is limited; and the plague negates resurrection). Unleashing it would prompt the Ebon Blade and Argent Dawn to take action.

[Aurrora]

If Anduin hadn't cast that spell, the dozen or so soldiers she hit would have died and been replaced by the ranks behind them like nothing had happened.

Following that, the Horde forces would have promptly been crushed because they were being led by a commander who was so inept that she thought that the best way to defend an underground city which is only accessible via a handful of small lifts, which is inhabited by people who cannot get sick, don't need to eat and don't need to drink against an enemy with both numerical and technological superiority was to charge out the front gates.

If the forsaken had hidden in the sewers to wait out the siege I'm sure the alliance would have just collapsed the castle in on them.

[Kithelle]

Let the Forsaken use the plague, the only one alive in that battlefield would have been Genn

If it wasn't for plot I bet she would have, bet she would have no problem sacrificing those Trolls, Orcs and Tauren in the process as long as she was safe.

[GreenJesus]

If it wasn't for plot I bet she would have, bet she would have no problem sacrificing those Trolls, Orcs and Tauren in the process as long as she was safe.

Or she could have the orcs, trolls, tauren tactically retreat and launch the plague into the middle of the Alliance forces and watch the humans beg for mercy as their skin melts off their face. Not even Anduin's puny light would be able to save them. It would cause so much chaos the alliance would probably retreat.

[Theoris]

Actually resurrection magic doesn't exist in lore, if it did then why would Anduin not ress Varian, his mother, etc etc

Resurrection does indeed exist in lore, and there are more ways to do it than one.
Thing is, Tiffin has been dead for a long time and Varian was disenchanted into dust. In other words, resurrection requires the person's body to be intact.

But yeah. What Anduin did in the cinematic was definitely a heal, not a ress.

[Deleted]

Mass Ressurection was the Paladin ultimate in WarcraftIII and it definitely looked like a mass res spell to me, especially considering Anduin is slowly becoming a Paladin by combining martial prowess with the mastery of the holy light (reglardless of what was said this blizzcon).

Mass res doesn't even need to be about bringing the dead to life - it could just be a super heal that revives fainted/nearly dead soldiers.

Also, the cinematic made me think of Uther and how Turalyon named him the Lightbringer as he surrounded all his fellow soldiers in radiant light, empowering and healing them.

[Theoris]

Mass Ressurection was the Paladin ultimate in WarcraftIII and it definitely looked like a mass res spell to me, especially considering Anduin is slowly becoming a Paladin by combining martial prowess with the mastery of the holy light (reglardless of what was said this blizzcon).

Mass res doesn't even need to be about bringing the dead to life - it could just be a super heal that revives fainted/nearly dead soldiers.

Resurrection is about bringing dead people back to life. If the person is mortally wounded/near death it doesn't count as resurrection if they're healed.

[Kithelle]

Or she could have the orcs, trolls, tauren tactically retreat and launch the plague into the middle of the Alliance forces and watch the humans beg for mercy as their skin melts off their face. Not even Anduin's puny light would be able to save them. It would cause so much chaos the alliance would probably retreat.

With what? She had nothing at all deployed to launch it. Only munitions they had to defend them were Archers. We saw a complete overhead view of Lordaeron...she had no plague launchers deployed...

Keep dreaming my boy.....keep dreaming.

[GreenJesus]

With what? She had nothing at all deployed to launch it. Only munitions they had to defend them was Archers. We saw a complete overhead view of Lordaeron...she had no plague launchers deployed...

Keep dreaming my boy.....keep dreaming.

It was a marketing cinematic used for hype and coolness. Get a AlliancevsHorde thingy going on. Using biowarfare would kind of kill the mood of "equal battle". In actual lore she would have pulled out some poison/plague or something. We have never seen the forsaken NOT pull that shit out/at least have it prepared. Lordaeron also looked way too neat and pretty. I could have mistaken it for Stormwind. It just didn't really seem accurate. It was cool, but not accurate.

[Theoris]

Not in the way PC's have it, there is no example in lore of someone flat out ressing someone with magic, holy, nature or otherwise

Lei Shen and Bloodlord Mandokir would disagree.

[cparle87]

Let the Forsaken use the plague, the only one alive in that battlefield would have been Genn

Being a worgen only protects you from being raised into a Forsaken by a val'kyr. It will not save you from being melted into a puddle of green goo by the Forsaken Blight.

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Lei Shen and Bloodlord Mandokir would disagree.

Don't forget Inquisitor Fairbanks by Alexandros Morgraine and Medivh by Aegwynn.

[Theoris]

Don't forget Inquisitor Fairbanks by Alexandros Morgraine and Medivh by Aegwynn.

Not really sure how canon Fairbanks' resurrection was. But yeah, Medivh was also brought back from death.

[Kithelle]

It was a marketing cinematic used for hype and coolness. In actual lore she would have pulled out some poison/plague or something. We have never seen the forsaken NOT pull that shit out/at least have it prepared. Lordaeron also looked way too neat and pretty. I could have mistaken it for Stormwind. It just didn't really seem accurate. It was cool, but not accurate.

LOL

And like I said if she had them deployed the Horde would have suffered collateral damage, or if she called retreat do you think the Alliance would sit there and twiddle their thumbs while the Horde falls back? No they'd push the offensive...

[Aquamonkey]

Thing is, Tiffin has been dead for a long time and Varian was disenchanted into dust. In other words, resurrection requires the person's body to be intact.

Medivh was dead for ~15 years. Lei Shen was dead for 12K years.

Not in the way PC's have it, there is no example in lore of someone flat out ressing someone, much less a whole group of people - with magic, holy, nature or otherwise

Anduin isn't a PC (not that what he did was resurrection). Jaina can do a true resurrection as can any sufficiently powerful sorcerer.

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Let the Forsaken use the plague, the only one alive in that battlefield would have been Genn

Worgen are not immune to New Plague, the stuff the Forsaken used on Gilneas was watered down garbage the Horde provided. The pure undiluted stuff vaporized people on contact. The strongest weaponized stuff they used melted pmuch everything into goo.

[cparle87]

Medivh was dead for ~15 years. Lei Shen was dead for 12K years.


Anduin isn't a PC (not that what he did was resurrection). Jaina can do a true resurrection as can any sufficiently powerful sorcerer.

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Worgen are not immune to New Plague, the stuff the Forsaken used on Gilneas was watered down garbage the Horde provided. The pure undiluted stuff vaporized people on contact. The strongest weaponized stuff they used melted pmuch everything into goo.

Medivh's body was preserved and laid to rest behind Karazhan. Lei Shen's body was also preserved, we literally watch him being brought back to life in the 5.2 trailer.

[Raging Penguin]

Well the action gets picked up after the cinematic, the horde would probably plan to lob plague barrels onto the battlefield, but the alliance probably would send in a elite squad (player) to flank the rear and sabotage their siege weapons as usual.

[Theoris]

Medivh was dead for ~15 years. Lei Shen was dead for 12K years.

Fair enough. But wasn't Lei Shen's body preserved for the day the Zandalar would resurrect him? (Can't remember if it was detailed beyond him getting entombed; been a while since I've read Chronicle)

[Aquamonkey]

Medivh's body was preserved and laid to rest behind Karazhan.

Yea... preserved... Medivh's body was slashed and torn. His heart was pierced and his head was chopped off. Fel energy exploded from his body. They buried his remains in the dirt.

[zemerax]

In case anyone want's to know TheLostCodex tweeted he asked Alex, and "Alex said today it was a mass heal, since rezzing via light is certainly a rare, difficult feat"