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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilan View Post
    This is exactly one the the problems with VR. This is a screen cap of the software on a normal pc screen. THIS IS NOT WHAT THE GAME LOOKS LIKE WITH A HEADSET ON. Hold a mesh screen about two inches away from that monitor while watching that video and you will have a more accurate representation of what a game will look like from inside a headset.

    Inside the headset, the screen is about 1-1.5 inches away from the eye. At that distance you can clearly, unmistakably see the spaces between pixels even on the tiny 2k resolution screens. The effect is very jarring. And and highly disappointing the first time you fire up the system in anticipation of some amazing VR experience.
    It's really not a big deal. You brain filters it out after 5 minutes and it's going to get better with each new headset.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swalload View Post
    No, I see facts, I state them. You can learn from them or stay wrong, it's not gonna change my day, or my opinion since this is not opinion. Simple logic, you can't try to market two things that cancel each other like new visual with a technology that prevents player from seeing the new visuals. Or gameplay features that heavily favor a way of playing that requires good awareness of your surrounding, which is nerfed by the FPS view of VR. No one plays ESO in first person in pvp because you would be nerfing yourself, same here. It's an educated assessment of the current situation of the game. Has absolutely nothing to do with opinions or personal preferences whatsoever.
    Do you really think anyone is suggesting WoW in its current state would be as playable with a headset on as without? The point would be to see WoW as if it were real, it doesn't have to be super playable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phumbles View Post
    It's really not a big deal. You brain filters it out after 5 minutes.


    Do you really think anyone is suggesting WoW in its current state would be as playable with a headset on as without? The point would be to see WoW as if it were real, it doesn't have to be super playable.
    Yours might.

    Regardless, there are still a host of very real physical maladies associated with vr headsets. i personally do not suffer motion sickness but maybe a quarter of the people who have tried my VIVE system have complained about nausea after short periods of time. Most complained about the weight, and literally every single one complained about the half inch thick bundle of cables hanging off the back of thier heads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilan View Post
    Yours might.

    Regardless, there are still a host of very real physical maladies associated with vr headsets. i personally do not suffer motion sickness but maybe a quarter of the people who have tried my VIVE system have complained about nausea after short periods of time. Most complained about the weight, and literally every single one complained about the half inch thick bundle of cables hanging off the back of thier heads.
    Sounds pretty nit picky to me. And motion sickness goes away for people with use, you see people refer to their "VR legs" all the time. No one is saying it's going to replace monitor gaming, but people trying to dismiss it as something that will go away are simply uninformed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phumbles View Post
    It's really not a big deal. You brain filters it out after 5 minutes and it's going to get better with each new headset.


    Do you really think anyone is suggesting WoW in its current state would be as playable with a headset on as without? The point would be to see WoW as if it were real, it doesn't have to be super playable.
    I'm talking purely in a gameplay point of view yes since that's why people play this game. If people want graphics it's not in WoW they will find satisfaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swalload View Post
    I'm talking purely in a gameplay point of view yes since that's why people play this game. If people want graphics it's not in WoW they will find satisfaction.



    WoW supported NVIDIA 3D vision and I think VR would be at least as playable as that was. I'm not necessarily pushing for it, I just think it'd be cool for them to do if it isn't 't especially hard for Bliz to just add the support (ability to just view the world in VR).

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    Lol you know the people saying VR is shit have never tried VR. Literally every single person I've ever seen try it has been blown away by where we already are. Guarantee those are the same people (young as fuck) that talk shit about Blizzard's cinematics because of how clueless they are about how things actually work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phumbles View Post
    Sounds pretty nit picky to me. And motion sickness goes away for people with use, you see people refer to their "VR legs" all the time.
    No it does not always go away. But the point remains, VR has an unfortunate stigma associated with it. All in all, it was an expensive experiment that has not proved to be quite as revolutionary as some companies had hoped. VR is still very much in its infancy, and until a host of current problems are worked out, it is not going to be openly embraced by AAA studios for thier flagship IPs.

    I am actually curious to see how Occulus and HTC/Steam have made out financially regarding VR*. It definitely does not seem to have a particularly large following outside those of us technophiles who had money to burn on shit like this. Personally, i consider what i paid for my Vive to be wasted money, but i knew that was going to be a possibility when i bought it.

    *Not curious enough to actually look it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krl View Post
    Blizzcon 2017 has just ended, with the unveiling of WoW next expansion, due 2018.

    Everyone knew there was going to be a big annoucement around WoW and the time was just right to take a technological risk to impress everyone.

    What about VR ? I was really hopeful the next big thing would be adapting wow's engine and interface for VR.
    That would have been huge.

    There are a lot of videos and threads on official forums about attempts at running WoW with Vive, Rift and the like with some kind of hacks and dysfunctional interface. Some are pretty convincing.

    What's your opinion ? Would you be hyped for VR WoW ?
    Nope, wouldn't be hyped for any sort of VR game, it is still a niche that falls more costly still.
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    Lol @ 6 months.

    No one cares about VR right now cause no one wants to deal with giant heavy ass goggles on their head and all the wires and set up and shit. It's cumbersome and impractical and just not worth it. The day you can slip on shades and be in VR, cool. In its current state it's just a niche fad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phumbles View Post



    WoW supported NVIDIA 3D vision and I think VR would be at least as playable as that was. I'm not necessarily pushing for it, I just think it'd be cool for them to do if it isn't 't especially hard for Bliz to just add the support (ability to just view the world in VR).
    I would love to fly around in VR and get a better sense of scale, some things are really big in WoW and we just pass by without really watching. It would be interesting but I think that's something worth announcing differently than during a new xpack announcement as this is more about content, not so much feature (unless the features are related to the new content, which BFA doesn't fit with VR).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucci View Post
    Lol you know the people saying VR is shit have never tried VR. Literally every single person I've ever seen try it has been blown away by where we already are. Guarantee those are the same people (young as fuck) that talk shit about Blizzard's cinematics because of how clueless they are about how things actually work.
    I'm 31. I've tried vr. It is a cool tech demo and nothing more. As far as actual playability goes, current gen vr is terrible. Vr that I would actual care about will probably not be developed until I'm an old man or dead.

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    Virtual Reality as it exists today is the most overhyped and pointless think currently being marketed.

    In 50 years time maybe it will be cool, but atm its just pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilan View Post
    No it does not always go away. But the point remains, VR has an unfortunate stigma associated with it. All in all, it was an expensive experiment that has not proved to be quite as revolutionary as some companies had hoped. VR is still very much in its infancy, and until a host of current problems are worked out, it is not going to be openly embraced by AAA studios for thier flagship IPs.

    I am actually curious to see how Occulus and HTC/Steam have made out financially regarding VR*. It definitely does not seem to have a particularly large following outside those of us technophiles who had money to burn on shit like this. Personally, i consider what i paid for my Vive to be wasted money, but i knew that was going to be a possibility when i bought it.

    *Not curious enough to actually look it up.
    VR is barely out of it's early adopter stage and it's only shown growth. New tech in sensors, controllers, and headsets have come out and are coming out soon. The best VR games are still to come, Fallout 4 VR will be out in a month, along with Skyrim and Doom at some point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ickz View Post
    I'm 31. I've tried vr. It is a cool tech demo and nothing more. As far as actual playability goes, current gen vr is terrible. Vr that I would actual care about will probably not be developed until I'm an old man or dead.
    Say what games you played.

    Quote Originally Posted by Broken Fox View Post
    Lol @ 6 months.

    No one cares about VR right now cause no one wants to deal with giant heavy ass goggles on their head and all the wires and set up and shit. It's cumbersome and impractical and just not worth it. The day you can slip on shades and be in VR, cool. In its current state it's just a niche fad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Nope, wouldn't be hyped for any sort of VR game, it is still a niche that falls more costly still.
    Your loss lol.
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    While I'm a big fan of VR, WoW just wouldn't work in it.

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    VR is a fad, let it go.

    Go talk about it to the porn industry. They may be interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phumbles View Post
    VR is barely out of it's early adopter stage and it's only shown growth. New tech in sensors, controllers, and headsets have come out and are coming out soon. The best VR games are still to come, Fallout 4 VR will be out in a month, along with Skyrim and Doom at some point.



    Say what games you played.




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    Your loss lol.
    Are you trying to be offended on behalf of VR or something?

    OT: The cost for what you get out of it is just too great for me. It's what... $600+ these days? Not enough you can do with it yet to justify that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krl View Post
    Blizzcon 2017 has just ended, with the unveiling of WoW next expansion, due 2018.

    Everyone knew there was going to be a big annoucement around WoW and the time was just right to take a technological risk to impress everyone.

    What about VR ? I was really hopeful the next big thing would be adapting wow's engine and interface for VR.
    That would have been huge.

    There are a lot of videos and threads on official forums about attempts at running WoW with Vive, Rift and the like with some kind of hacks and dysfunctional interface. Some are pretty convincing.

    What's your opinion ? Would you be hyped for VR WoW ?
    Blizzard never takes risks. They use proven ideas and technologies. They'll bring VR when (or if) enough people will have it (and capable GPU).

    Also I'm not really sure that VR would be appropriate for WoW. It's more for FPS, but WoW generally suited for camera floating far above your head. Must be weird for VR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xact4 View Post
    Are you trying to be offended on behalf of VR or something?

    OT: The cost for what you get out of it is just too great for me. It's what... $600+ these days? Not enough you can do with it yet to justify that.
    Not too hard for me. There was a 1070 & Vive bundle for $700. It's already payed for itself to me. A phone costs more, a weekend skiing costs as much. Completely worth it if you aren't broke IMO.

    VR shouldn't be compared to other gaming. It's something you do in sessions. Play for an hour+ and then set it down for a day or two. There's like 3 competitive shooters, all are unique and good. Project Cars and Asseto Corsa support VR. Elite : Dangerous supports VR (seriously it's worth it for this game alone), there's guitar hero like music games, there's creative games like Anyland where you can basically make anything (with functions) and stuff like Google Tiltbrush to paint in 3D. There's golf game, a football game (that I've already got 26 hours in), Minecraft VR, Fallout VR soon, and an array of a bunch of other kinds of games, many of which only really can be experienced with VR.
    I haven't bought a console since the Xbox 360 and Wii U and I'd consider getting a console more of a waste of money than VR and a 970.
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    Blizzard never takes risks.
    He says days after the announcement of Vanilla servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phumbles View Post
    He says days after the announcement of Vanilla servers.
    And what kind of risks are you talking about? They can estimate number of players who will play it pretty well, they can estimate their expenses pretty well. It's a pure math. There's almost no risks here. If they announced it, they've found it to be profitable in one way or another.

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