Poll: Who do you prefer as the world's only super power?

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  1. #81
    Australia.

    We're all chill and lazy enough not to cause any shit, even if we had the power.

  2. #82
    Germany, Japan, or South Korea

    Maybe Australia. G'day mate
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  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by bigmoney99 View Post
    America, easy vote.

    America has something china wont and doesnt have, and that is World Culture Export. If you go around cities in the EU then you will find many of their supermarkets, fastfood chain companys, clothes stores etc. They dominate the media, movies you watch comes from America, even music.

    China is a shiithole, a communist country, 60% of country is in poverty, only the rich live like kings while rest of China has to work for pennys to stay alive and afford food.
    other way around bro there are no american supermarketchains in central europe, the only fast food chain that even runs is mc donalds(for tourists) and clothing? clothing comes from asia. like anywhere else in this world. And while your right that american movies dominate the media, its just about the volume. It not really culture here, not many discuss your movies, serials are way more important. You could also say, hey the USA drive our cars, eat our food, use our factory technology, drink our coffee and drink our beer. and because of that we dominate the culture. but thats not true, not really.

    and before voting either for warmongers or isolationists i would take europe all the way. Or better yet, no one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soeroah View Post
    Australia.

    We're all chill and lazy enough not to cause any shit, even if we had the power.
    lol I like that guy.
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  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by d00mGuArD View Post
    worlds best military...
    ... aaaaaaaand the worlds best economy, better than all the 28 countries of E.U. combined, by a big 10% margin, which will be 18% margin when UK leaves
    ... aaaaaaaand hands down the best university system on the planet, by far
    ... aaaaaaaand hands down the most innovations and inventions
    ... aaaaaaaand the biggest movie industry and culture export ..
    the list goes on really. no one is even close. not remotely close
    economy? nope sorry.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...al)_per_capita
    What you are talking about:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...PP)_per_capita
    gross GDP doesn't say anything. And let's not forget your debts. but hey you can revalue your country a few times yet. And if not you only need to start another war.

    University? lol this one good. You have the best university past masterlevel. An american bakk/master is worth shit in europe. because its bad. bakks are not even on the level of an 18 year old schoolkid.
    Simply because your schooling-system before is weak. you need to learn basic skills at your universities.
    how do you count inventions? where are your numbers? or do you count patents as innovations there?^^
    movie yes, culture? not really. Primary exported culture must be taken in. doesn't happen much does it.

    but you are right, europe is not a superpower. why would we? the last two "superpowers" on the planet killed about millions of civilans over the past 50 years. Mostly only to sate their greed for resources. this what it's all about for a suprerpower. They need to stay a superpower and that only happens when your killing everyone who comes close.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Mittens View Post
    What are you talking about dude? We are pretty damn stable, you can make agreements with us and have a of certainty and we need to compromise with other countries in order to project power in key regions, something that China doesn't need to.
    Can't really make agreements with a country that sees each president try to undo everything the one before him accomplished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d00mGuArD View Post
    worlds best military...
    The most powerful and largest.. Not the best. Its track record speaks otherwise.
    ... aaaaaaaand the worlds best economy, better than all the 28 countries of E.U. combined, by a big 10% margin, which will be 18% margin when UK leaves
    The largest isn't the same as the best. Your current president is whining about how America can't win anymore. How the others making more mone yadda yadda...

    ... aaaaaaaand hands down the best university system on the planet, by far
    That's untrue..
    While the US has the most top 50 universities of any country on the planet... They're a matter of affordability first, since education in the US is a business, a commercial issue more than anything it's rather an argument you don't want to make. Besides, when you expand the list to the top 500 universities the US' inferior education system becomes obvious. Because barley any of its hundreds of colleges shows up anymore on that ranking.

    ... aaaaaaaand hands down the most innovations and inventions
    That's untrue.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/most-...t-six-years-15

    ... aaaaaaaand the biggest movie industry and culture export ..
    Bollywood is bigger, and I believe Nollywood too, might be mistaken. Yet, pop culture isn't something of high importance for that matter anyway.

    the list goes on really. no one is even close. not remotely close
    Last edited by Wildtree; 2017-11-07 at 10:54 AM.
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    EPA, obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Can't really make agreements with a country that sees each president try to undo everything the one before him accomplished.
    Have your agreement be validated by Congress. Done and even if it isn't the president lacks the power to reverse it de facto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mittens View Post
    Have your agreement be validated by Congress. Done and even if it isn't the president lacks the power to reverse it de facto.
    It's really a problem right now.
    The last president was so hated by the right, that they're trying their hardest to literally erase anything and everything he's done.
    This is not your normal course correction type of changes seen with every power change (which is something every country has).
    What happens right now is unprecedented for US standards. It's disgusting.
    You cannot stop the sitting president from his actions when his party controls all three prongs of the government.
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  11. #91
    Canada.....................................

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    Russia ofc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
    I cannot believe it! On MMOC an anti American thread? From Europeans loving their lives already under the blanket of US military protection? Oh how terrible your lives must be. I am sure China would let you shit post it all day on the internet if the roles were reversed. I am sure they would let you dip below treaty obligations to give out more healthcare and welfare like the mean old US makes you.

    I am more under the impression that in a world where, poof, the US is gone the question is more how Europe's wealth and territory is going to be decided between China and Russia.
    You won the award for most delusional person of the year, grats.
    Blanket of us military protection, lol, gotta give you some points for comical value.

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    It's really a problem right now.
    The last president was so hated by the right, that they're trying their hardest to literally erase anything and everything he's done.
    This is not your normal course correction type of changes seen with every power change (which is something every country has).
    What happens right now is unprecedented for US standards. It's disgusting.
    You cannot stop the sitting president from his actions when his party controls all three prongs of the government.
    If the entirety of a country wants to withdraw from an agreement , it should. Sovereignty is a thing and all international agreements are voluntary. Sufficient time is given for all countries is given so that they prepare.
    Ooo
    As for the "unprecedented". What's happening rn is that Trump is withdrawing from agreements that did not enter in action. That's not unprecedented.
    Last edited by Mittens; 2017-11-07 at 11:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mittens View Post
    If the entirety of a country wants to withdraw from a country, it should. Sovereignty is a thing and all international agreements are voluntary. Sufficient time is given for all countries is given so that they prepare.
    Ooo
    As for the "unprecedented". What's happening rn is that Trump is withdrawing from agreements that did not enter in action. That's not unprecedented.
    Trump literally reverses every decision made by Obama and his administration. Not just from things that didn't enter in action.
    He's targeting everything. You might want to look at all departments. All the policy changes there. All the staff changes there.
    Look at all of Trump's EO's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mittens View Post
    If the entirety of a country wants to withdraw from an agreement , it should. Sovereignty is a thing and all international agreements are voluntary.
    Absolutely, America is free to do as it likes... but it makes the rest of us nervous entering into agreements with a country whose government is systematically undoing everything the previous one accomplished. It doesn't quite have the odor of stability to it.
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    I will get flamed for this, but.
    EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    Trump literally reverses every decision made by Obama and his administration. Not just from things that didn't enter in action.
    He's targeting everything. You might want to look at all departments. All the policy changes there. All the staff changes there.
    Look at all of Trump's EO's.
    And we are talking about international agreements. Internal politics are a different beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Absolutely, America is free to do as it likes... but it makes the rest of us nervous entering into agreements with a country whose government is systematically undoing everything the previous one accomplished. It doesn't quite have the odor of stability to it.
    What international agreement that enter in action has Trump unilaterally withdrawn from and ended in legislation undoing it defacto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mittens View Post
    And we are talking about international agreements. Internal politics are a different beast.
    We are talking about who the World prefers as a leading power..
    Certainly not one that is domestically unstable. This is something that evades the comprehension of many Americans. Not saying all Americans, but many.
    Your domestic actions reflect upon your foreign relationships and your international reputation. Trump's domestic actions causing the US' global reputation to nosedive. His personal one can barely get any worse anyway.

    Effectively, we - the world - don't trust the USA anymore. They are no longer a stable partner with high morals and values.
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