(TV) Star Trek: Discovery

[Hammerfest]

There's a lot of white people on the cast. I imagine he feels its pretty safe to watch.

You know you're talking about Rush Limbaugh, right? The guy whose wedding included a black pastor and Elton John as the singer.

[cuafpr]

What's the difference other than the drinks, music and thus dance moves? At one you rave all night drinking cheap stuff - at the other you just sit in your lounge sipping expensive wine. It's just a matter of taste.

social perception and acceptance at least in this century. Most military branches/installations have formal balls some with muisc ... never seen one have sanctioned a club/rave on post.

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Oh my good Lord! Dancing in a starship! Next step, they'll have an orgy!

Quick! Better call Section Spanish Inquisition!

No one expects them.

again, just seems out of place oh a military vessel in my opinion.

[Elim Garak]

social perception and acceptance at least in this century. Most military branches/installations have formal balls some with muisc ... never seen one have sanctioned a club/rave on post.

Starfleet is not a military organization and Discovery is not a military ship.

[cuafpr]

Starfleet is not a military organization and Discovery is not a military ship.

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight cause they totally are not fighting a war, and being a military ship. Star Fleet has always claimed to be explorers first but when needed fought wars.

[Svisalith]

Fair enough, I can see why Discovery is trying to appeal to the younger/millennial audience.

The only people of those ages that i know who like star trek love DS9/TNG and think Discovery is meh.

a few that have not seen previous trek, watched Discovery, didn't particularly like it or want to keep watching

It's Gen. Z that grew up with star trek 2009 instead of the airings and re-runs for TNG/DS9/VOY.

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And look at how things turned out for the crew of the Air Craft carrier from Under Siege when they tried to have a party.

That party had it's good points though

[Melius]

There's a lot of white people on the cast. I imagine he feels its pretty safe to watch.

good lord who cares if the cast is colour diverse?! this is star trek after all so this isnt the problem. i just want good stories, likeable characters and sticking to cannon. and i get it that most star trek shows started off bad but all had something that caught my attention very fast, be it patrick stewarts excelent performance, janeways strenght and being stranded so far away from home, the Q entity, the great chemistry between bones, kirk and spock, or the diverse cast of aliens in DS9 and sisko being a badass. discovery on the other hand, for me anyway, is pretty hard to watch and most times a yawn fest. maybe it will get better, one can only hope but for now i wont be watching anymore.

[Elim Garak]

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight cause they totally are not fighting a war, and being a military ship. Star Fleet has always claimed to be explorers first but when needed fought wars.

Doesn't matter if they are at war or not. Doesn't make it a military organization. And Discovery is a Science vessel, it's even called Discovery, not Desintegratory. it's just the most advanced vessel in the Starfleet so no wonder it is involved in the war effort, though quite cautiously.

You have lost this argument I suggest you to take some time to recuperate.

[Frontenac]

social perception and acceptance at least in this century. Most military branches/installations have formal balls some with muisc ... never seen one have sanctioned a club/rave on post.

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again, just seems out of place oh a military vessel in my opinion.

Bah! The Enterprise-D had children on it. That's far worse than having a ball from time to time. Besides, parties have been held on Enterprise-D and Voyager. It's just that they somehow prefered old jazz standards over the Bee Gees (or whoever covered Staying Alive).

[Strawberry]

I'm liking Discovery more and more.
Klingons look menacing! Finally. In The Next Generation, they look ridiculously stupid.
All other aliens look good too. And also, the uniforms are so much better. More modern.
I don't understand why they choose that setting so early but made the ship much more advanced. It would've been better if they set it in alternate universe like the movies or just far ahead in the future.
The best part about it is it's really dark. Except the part where this bearded dude blows up the ship hundreds of times and rewinds the time and at the end just walks away. WTF.

[Sorrior]

I'm liking Discovery more and more.
Klingons look menacing! Finally. In The Next Generation, they look ridiculously stupid.
All other aliens look good too. And also, the uniforms are so much better. More modern.
I don't understand why they choose that setting so early but made the ship much more advanced. It would've been better if they set it in alternate universe like the movies or just far ahead in the future.
The best part about it is it's really dark. Except the part where this bearded dude blows up the ship hundreds of times and rewinds the time and at the end just walks away. WTF.

Simple answer is male it mirrorverse then just about EVERYTHING works.

[Ivanstone]

Simple answer is male it mirrorverse then just about EVERYTHING works.

Except that its not even remotely like the Mirror universe.

[Sorrior]

Except that its not even remotely like the Mirror universe.

Darker edgier torture is perfectly cool annnnd even the darker tone and advanced tech make sense

[Ivanstone]

Darker edgier torture is perfectly cool annnnd even the darker tone and advanced tech make sense

Discovery having a darker tone has nothing to do with the Mirror universe. The advanced technology is not "advanced", its presented in a more polished manner.

The Mirror universe is a universe populated by explicitly fascist versions of regular Star Trek governments. Mirror versions of cast characters are frequently much more immoral than their counterparts (except poor Brunt and Quark).

Burnham committing treason would've either gotten her captaincy of the Shenzhou or a quick death by someone else. The fact that she got a life sentence in prison is all the proof you need that this isn't the Mirror universe.

[Frontenac]

Darker edgier torture is perfectly cool annnnd even the darker tone and advanced tech make sense

Again, if it were the Mirror Universe, there would be no Federation, but the Terran Empire.

[ezgeze]

personally cant stand this show, its complete crap. I would be surprised if the writers of this show watched more than 5 minutes of star trek outside the new JJ films.

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The show is absolutely not Star Trek, and SM-G bombastic exposition is so over the top and asinine that it almost drives me personally crazy, but other than that, I suppose it's still watchable. Not being actual Star Trek, I can live with all the not-Star-Trek stuff, like the ridiculous mushroom-spinny-drive and the hairless-dorky-looking-faux-Klingons. There have been worse space shows (Farscape, Stargåte SG-1).

Wonder who/what will die first, the last living member of the original series, or hope for a new actual Star Trek series that takes place in the proper continuum after TNG.

[Sorshen]

personally cant stand this show, its complete crap. I would be surprised if the writers of this show watched more than 5 minutes of star trek outside the new JJ films.

You mean... the acting needs to be worse? It's already not that great.

[Sorrior]

Again, if it were the Mirror Universe, there would be no Federation, but the Terran Empire.

Just needs a rename but true. Still fits better

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Discovery having a darker tone has nothing to do with the Mirror universe. The advanced technology is not "advanced", its presented in a more polished manner.

The Mirror universe is a universe populated by explicitly fascist versions of regular Star Trek governments. Mirror versions of cast characters are frequently much more immoral than their counterparts (except poor Brunt and Quark).

Burnham committing treason would've either gotten her captaincy of the Shenzhou or a quick death by someone else. The fact that she got a life sentence in prison is all the proof you need that this isn't the Mirror universe.

..did i ONCE say it was in the mirrorverse? No i said it FITS the mirrorverse better.

And this is insanely far from star trek to myself and many other.

To those who want darker more modern sci fi go for it. But understand doing that with star trek as a prime timeline. Star trek has ALWAYS been about humanisn and humanity moving beyond our worse traits..welll anything prime timeline.

Oh and i have seen every prior series i know it could get darker but was not the focus.

I also have heard of the section 31 fan theory.

I have heard alpt. And i still say this is the FFXIII of star trek not a bad sci fi but a horrible star trek.

Oh and spore drive all that needs to be said about tech.

[ezgeze]

You mean... the acting needs to be worse? It's already not that great.

No, I am saying that the whole 5 minutes of star trek research the developers did for this new show probably was from JJ star trek reboots. True fans of star trek use TNG, DS9 and to some extent voyager.