Bloodlust did not exist in Vanilla

[hasslehoof]

Dwarven priests and paladins > all. Fear ward and salv were imba

who needs threat reduction when you do mad dps with Windfury?

[babalou1]

Wait for 5 sunders.

Idiots and Pugs needed 5 sunders.

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who needs threat reduction when you do mad dps with Windfury?

Who needs threat reduction when you could die and be rezed

[Daggot Ur]

Wasn't it originally a lvl 64 ability? But yes, your point still stands.

https://tbc-twinhead.twinstar.cz/?spells=7.7#400+2+1

[Jazzhands]

Idiots and Pugs needed 5 sunders.

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Who needs threat reduction when you could die and be rezed

Man, I bet you're a joy to be around at parties.

[Daggot Ur]

who needs threat reduction when you do mad dps with Windfury?

Right, especially when your melees get WF procs with crits and you get misses and not only you miss but boss misses you and you have no rage to do shit... And not that there were bosses where you had to rotate tanks and it was easy as hell with salva...

[mickybrighteyes]

I don't think Mage, warrior, or warlock had an aggro reduction in Vanilla. I could be wrong though, it's been a very long time and a lot of small spells have gone to the way side. I do know warlocks got one in TBC though, so I'm fairly certain they didn't have one in Vanilla.

I'm referring to rogues mainly. Can't really compete with a class that was designed to be able to fight constantly and disengage. Warriors? they either held off or died. Warlocks... when you only have 8 debuff slots and half were mandatory for raid performance... you're not bringing a warlock unless they basically take half the class design and throw it away (soul/health stone groupie or summon taxi). Sure they may have gotten some late tier love with ridiculous shadowbolt crits but that wasn't till way later. Mages had their own issues with mana management, people forget that wands were actually a large chunk of some players dmg output cause of going oom (well after they removed the ability to drop combat in a boss fight to eat/drink)

[Nalorakk]

yeah nice try op i was world first naxx player, best blood dk on my server

[hulkgor]

Wasn't alliance BETTER suited to pve back in vanilla anyway, bloodlust or no?

Yes. VERY.

Between Paladin Buffs (even if bothersome to keep up through the raid) and dwarf priests with anti-fear (We had a LOT of bosses using fear on vanilla), they had some advantages.

I wouldn't trade any of those for Windfury though, and it just made Horde tanks (warriors) learn how to properly tank and stance dance, which was one of the most enticing parts of tanking through vanilla.

[Winterstrife]

Also, no battle res, so if you fucked up, have fun afking the entire boss fight.

[endersblade]

Speaking of faction imbalance, I just hope Paladins can still rape Undead like we could at the start.

[Polarthief]

No they didn't.

It's not frustration with you specifically, it's frustration with what seems to be a huge amount of people who swear they raided in Vanilla but don't even know that BL wasn't added until BC. Yet they'll swear they were 7/8 T3 or some other nonsense.

I never even hit max level in vanilla (was 56 when BC came out) and even I knew Lust was in BC.

People are just dumb, plain and simple.

Also, no battle res, so if you fucked up, have fun afking the entire boss fight.

Rebirth was added in 1.1.0, the same patch raids were added.

[Hctaz]

yeah nice try op i was world first naxx player, best blood dk on my server

That was back when Blood was still dps, right? Good times. Man I miss Vanilla Death Knight specs. So much better than now

[Sentynel]

What the fuck OP, Bloodlust was added in TBC. Noone had it in Vanilla lol.

[Calfredd]

Also, no battle res, so if you fucked up, have fun afking the entire boss fight.

That's why you have people not participate in combat for out-of-combat rezzing.

[DrIvoRobotnik]

Remember folks... Count to 5 before you start dpsing.

I cant wait for people to die from not managing aggro correctly.

[Charge me Doctor]

Also, no battle res, so if you fucked up, have fun afking the entire boss fight.

Not exactly, usually you had a person or two who stayed out of pulsing combat range to resurrect dead players. While dying to drop aggro is ridiculously bad idea (because you lose all consumables), you didn't need rebirth to be able to res people in raids

[Mormolyce]

So Paladins had Blessings in Vanilla? Did Shamans have Shaman only buffs?

[Charge me Doctor]

So Paladins had Blessings in Vanilla? Did Shamans have Shaman only buffs?

Yes, they are called totems. They were group based and sucked balls when you had more than 5 players in your raid

[Lollis]

No they didn't.

It's not frustration with you specifically, it's frustration with what seems to be a huge amount of people who swear they raided in Vanilla but don't even know that BL wasn't added until BC. Yet they'll swear they were 7/8 T3 or some other nonsense.

Tier 3 had 9 set pieces, that'd probably let on that they were bullshitting.

[Auberdeen]

yeah nice try op i was world first naxx player, best blood dk on my server

prove it with a screen shot or it didnt happen