Can N'zoth still be the main antagonist of Battle for Azeroth?

[Deleted]

Apart from wanting the world to end and having the bad guys win this time, I really hope it's not the same cliché whisper and mindcontrol thing. Like... they can do that, but not with the important people. I'd like to see something along the lines of N'zoth throwing us some bait here and there and bringing his own minions into place for the time when everyone is at each others' throats because of their own 'bad' feelings (rage, revenge, greed, fear).
Behind everything that goes down because of this, N'zoth makes the simple people join him. Farmers, footmen, beggars, bandits, everyone who ever felt screwed over by the heroes and royals in the world.
And when we need an army to fight back against his last move of coming to rule the world, we have none.
Oh man, I'd love this.
Sorry

[Ealyssa]

would you expect a battle with an Old God to start with him right out in the open? Face to face? When have they ever operated like that?

AQ

oh and

Ulduar

[Fion Silberpfeil]

Of course it is possible. Its just dumb. Going from kinda worldwar to fighting together just has this bland taste to it. That the conflict isnt important nor is it a long thing. Its just...there. Imagine it for yourself. "Hey Slvie, we kinda killed each other for X months but i see an old god behind all of it. Peace?" Not cool....

[TheFirstOnes]

Calling it RIGHT now:

Azshara- Final boss for 8.0.

N'zoth- Final boss for 8.2.

And, lastly, Azeroth- Final boss for 8.3/8.4.

Why else do we have Azeroth's Heart (AKA, her dreams and shit).

We're going to sacrifice our Necklace, to cleanse Azeroth from her Void Corrupted self.

Similar to how we will sacrifice our Artifacts to jail the Dark Titan himself.

Also, why do I say that N'zoth's going to be the 8.2 Final Boss?

HIS PRISON'S INBETWEEN ZANDALAR AND KUL'TIRAS!

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We know that Azshara will be showing up, and she's his strongest lieutenant of sorts. So, we'll definitely see, at least, some influence of N'Zoth in this expansion.

As far as if we'll fight him? It's up for debate. They could either make Azshara the main antagonist and save N'Zoth for later, or have Azshara the middle tier boss with N'Zoth as the final baddie of BfA. Either seems plausible, considering Azshara is said to be extremely powerful on her own, and they've already put off N'Zoth since Cataclysm anyway.

"Azshara's the Final Boss of BfA"- Some random people.

No....

That'd be horrible. It's like making Gul'dan the final boss of Legion. It's not happening.

[KrakHed]

Anduin frequently channels and uses the light. I find him a rather unlikely choice for corruption...

Yeah. It's not like that could ever happen to a leading Priest of the Church of the Holy Light. Twice. Oh wait!

It could easily be done. But that doesn't really matter. They don't need to make him sprout tentacles from his dick. They just need to feed him three key pieces of misinformation, and have him share them with the world. How they feed him these three lies is irrelevant. Arrange circumstances to give him a false impression, have their agents whisper in his ear, or whatever. It doesn't matter.

The only problem with this theory is that if Nzoth is behind it, then Nzoth is behind the whole Legion conflict from jump.
He led Sargeras to become corrupted. Led Sargeras to create the Legion. Led the Legion to invade Draenor.
In other words was behind everything that led up to this point.

Don't be retarded. N'zoth has the power of prophecy. He doesn't need to manipulate events from the dawn of time. He just needs to know details of what will happen, and to exploit those ruthlessly. Maybe pull a few strings here and there, so we solve problems in the way most advantageous to himself.

[Samin]

Calling it RIGHT now:

Azshara- Final boss for 8.0.

Well I'll stop you right there. 8.0 comes with a troll/titan raid (Uldir), you won't see Azshara there. Especially because they explicitly said Azshara would be a boss in a patch of BfA.

[ello]

my guess

8.0- Troll Raid(prophet Zul maybe?)

8.1- Ashzara

8.2 - N 'zoth

8.3 - Sylvanas

[Destinas]

"Azshara's the Final Boss of BfA"- Some random people.

No....

That'd be horrible. It's like making Gul'dan the final boss of Legion. It's not happening.

Some people think it's definite, but I said it's a possibility. "Could" =/= "Is"

She's hardly the same as Gul'dan in terms of power and influence in lore. She's not a disposable minion by any stretch - remember that Gul'dan wasn't even worth it for the Legion to keep around, and he was left to die in the Tomb in two timelines. Azshara was powerful when she was mortal, making the Kaldorei empire the most powerful on Azeroth with the help of the Well of Eternity. She created the current Resto Shaman artifact, and created an entire temple (BFD) with it. She sundered Azsuna and a relic made by the Titans when she was mortal, as well. Now, she is empowered by the Void through N'Zoth, and her empire is in/on the rift that the Well used to be. Her people are still magically gifted, using that magic to bind/enslave water elementals, murlocs, sea giants, makrura, gilgoblins, and other sea life.

If they really wanted to stretch out the story of N'Zoth and Azshara, she could easily be the last boss of BfA. She has more than enough potential to be a major antagonist. In my opinion, it would be a complete waste to have her be a middle-tier boss or even lower. People didn't like it for Kil'jaeden, and she has been stated in lore to be even stronger than him. It's not definite that they will have her as a more late-game boss at all, but it is my hope.

[Nyel]

From some dev interviews:

The story will definitely build up to a major threat. It will be a ‘slow burn’ that escalates as the expansion progresses.

Faction conflict is the foreground and the outside threats are a slow build up in this expansion.

So yes, we're going to have a much bigger "real" enemy in the end. Is it N'zoth? Could be.

[beanman12345]

I think it's possible. I'm hoping not because we are kinda running out of known and credible threats.

[ello]

I think it's possible. I'm hoping not because we are kinda running out of known and credible threats.

Eh, WoD has taught me Blizzard is willing to pull stuff out of their butthole to kill some time. We also still have a potential "return of the lich king/legion" and another faction war before we start exploring void lords and whatnot.

[beanman12345]

Eh, WoD has taught me Blizzard is willing to pull stuff out of their butthole to kill some time. We also still have a potential "return of the lich king/legion" and another faction war before we start exploring void lords and whatnot.

Yeah they can do that. That's why I'm hoping N'Zoth isn't the last because i want to postpone more time travel crap as much as possible.

[Felfaadaern Darkterror]

AQ

oh and

Ulduar

Cthun and Yogg Saron both manipulated events from behind the scenes for years before they were identified and tracked down. Neither ever came out in the open. We eventually sleuthed out what they were up to and went in search of them.

[Stormspellz]

Nzoth is the puppet master of the horde and alliance are at each other's throat again.

[CreatureLives]

We didn't expect Argus at the end of Legion did we? A lot can happen between launch and final patch. There was like 5 raids in Legion. So I imagine we'll have 4-5 this time as well. Uldir is one, Azshara is another but that means there is still like 2-3 that we don't know about. We really didn't even start digging in to the Legion stuff till the 3rd raid in Legion and we know the Old Gods like to hide in the shadows and drive people mad.

N'Zoth will most likely be the big bad unless there is a twist like Wrathion or Y'Shaarj at the end or some new Void Lord dude we don't know about yet but we are definitely fighting N'Zoth.

[Hugnomo]

I think the title of the expansion is meant to have a double meaning. The obvious one, battle for Azeroth meaning faction war and battle for the dominion of Azeroth's territory, which leads to the premise of the start of the expansion. But I think it will also relate to Azeroth as a Titan and the threat of the Old Gods corrupting her. We battle for Azeroth, as in, to save Azeroth the world soul.

In my mind, I see us fighting N'zoth in the heart of Azeroth, deep underground, completely entangled around her. Think upside down vines from stranger things, all covered in nzoth goo. tunels and tunels until we reach her, slowly being turned void.
With his defeat, Blizzard will definitely have to radically develop the lore of the cosmic forces and the main antagonists of the game. Because if they don't give the Void Lords a way to materialize in the physical universe, there's no other threat to fight. I think we will learn more about Elune and the Void Lords. Or they could always rain more Old Gods on us, but I don't think so.
I mean, I think we're going to learn more about old gods and titans at launch, with the Uldir, Halls of Control, the first raid.

I think the naval fleet of the zandalari and the kultirans (tirassians) will be important for the horde and the alliance to transport their armies to wherever Azshara is in 8.1 (probably the space between kultiras and zandalar).

On another note, am I the only one who's super suspicious of the sea priests of Stormsong Valley? They are described as fanatic, and their concept art is filled with octopus and tentacle motifs. The staff even has what appears to be an eye at the center. The drawing of the anchor also seems deformed to allude to an octopus with an eye at the top.

[Nyel]

N'Zoth will most likely be the big bad unless there is a twist like Wrathion or Y'Shaarj at the end or some new Void Lord dude we don't know about yet but we are definitely fighting N'Zoth.

Wrathion won't be it. Blizzard explicitly said Wrathion has no storyline in BfA.

I think the title of the expansion is meant to have a double meaning. The obvious one, battle for Azeroth meaning faction war and battle for the dominion of Azeroth's territory, which leads to the premise of the start of the expansion. But I think it will also relate to Azeroth as a Titan and the threat of the Old Gods corrupting her. We battle for Azeroth, as in, to save Azeroth the world soul.

Agree!

[CreatureLives]

Wrathion won't be it. Blizzard explicitly said Wrathion has no storyline in BfA.

Yet he was spotted in the demo with all of the Alliance leaders.

[Nyel]

Yet he was spotted in the demo with all of the Alliance leaders.

I know, but that's all for him: They have talked about plans for Wrathion for various other things, but currently have no plans for him in BfA.

[InfiniteCharger]

Don't be retarded. N'zoth has the power of prophecy. He doesn't need to manipulate events from the dawn of time. He just needs to know details of what will happen, and to exploit those ruthlessly. Maybe pull a few strings here and there, so we solve problems in the way most advantageous to himself.

So what? How does that help him from becoming the latest feature boss of the next raid? So he should foresee us beating his behind then in that raid. Yep. Thats comical and retarded.

Old Gods, the Void and Sargeras are supposed to be our immortal nemeses and our day to day battles should be against their mortal minions. They aren't supposed to die, as opposed to coming up with new minions and new intrigue to affect our universe from whatever dimension they are in. Otherwise, if we are killing a new "god" every expansion it gets boring. What threat can there be after defeating Sargeras and now Nzoth? Honestly, I understand that they want to build up Nzoth as some big baddie but come on we know how this goes. He shows up in a raid and gets beat.

There is no shred of threat from any of these "gods" anymore.