Yes, although it was among the easier recipes to acquire, out of all the stuff that got removed during the Cataclysm. There are often still a few Blacksmiths who played back then who can make it for you, so it's somewhat easy to get. Other rarer stuff might appear once a few months on the auction house, or just flat out never.
To be fair, I personally suspect the demand for removed crafted appearances aren't all that high anyway, given my experience selling some of them.
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It's never going to be "the exact same thing as it was in the old days". There has been 12 years of progress in player skill, tools available etc, which will make old raids trivial in comparison. And that's if (and that's a large IF) Classic really is made pristine, without any of the changes, nerfs, buffs, "fixes" and QoL people are already crying for.
But that doesn't matter, it's just one of the several reasons, it's not just one, but all of them together.
But those are incentives to play the game for the wrong reasons.
Lets say someone plays classic just so can have the transmog of Naxx 40
Imagine he loses the item to someone else
It would create guild drama and it would be very annoying for him.
Everyone would be at eachother throats to grab the corrupted ashbringer and tier sets
Asmongold was discussing this yesterday on stream.
I dont even know if its a good idea to incentivise people to play Vanilla. People should be there because they want to. The community will be much more "chill" like this.
If we're talking about MC, sure. That place is practically just a 40man dungeon with how simple and easy the bosses are.
BWL, no, you cannot just steamroll your way through there with "skill". Same with AQ and especially Naxx.
Still doesn't make it any less idiotic that people are crying about other people getting to experience this old content, for no reason other than "reeeee I won't be a special snowflake anymore reeeee".
No-one who is capable of and dedicated enough to raid Naxx 40 is going to play solely to get T3 on their main as there are far easier ways to obtain T3 transmog already in game.
Losing an item to another raid member is part and parcel of being a raider - people are going to lose items to other raid members and this will, in some cases, cause guild drama and I doubt classic will be any different for the current live or any previous version of WoW in this regard.
People will be disappointed at losing out on a piece of gear they want regardless of their reasons for wanting it.
Fixed. Not being able to faceroll mob in the world, AoE being an actual tactical decision only in specific circumstances, having to take care of your health and mana, were among things that made the game engaging and immersive.
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Of course, most people will do that. But you only need to have a small minority of idiots to pollute the game. Just look at these very forums : 80 to 85 % just want Vanilla "as it was", but a tiny minority of trolls/retards post their crap that and it seems like "Vanilla lovers are never satisfied".
You do realize that people could farm this stuff well into being level 70 as well, right? Naxx was hard at level 60, but for raid geared 70s it was a lot easier. Not like it was really an achievement to do that at that time. Also, you can just buy the T3 sets of the BMAH anyway... might as well let us carry that shit from Classic to live for mogging.
I honestly don't care at all about what happens on retail, as long as we get a good version of the game on classic they can have all the transmog or mounts they want
This might be a valid line of reasoning if, you know:
Naxx gear wasn't available in Naxx and the BMAH.
Naxx 40 hadn't been available all through BC.
Scarab Lord wasn't stolen on a number of the servers that came out later by people transferring to those servers.
Scarab Lords, and Naxx geared accounts weren't sold and passed around.
Rewards are a very smart move towards keeping more than a dozen or two thousand players interested in the classic idea for more than a couple months.
I personally don't mind the idea. I think it would give people the intensive to try out the servers and play on them and I doubt it would affect the classic servers themselves as long as nothing can be transferred to them. The only think I hope for is that if Blizzard implements something like this, they do it a bit after the launch because the launch will be crowded enough.
On reason 2, to be fair, none of that removed gear should have ever been removed in the first place. Old naxx should have never been removed, old ZG should have never been removed. Old versions of instances should never be removed... Want to reuse it for "new content" like Naxx and ZG were? Cool, put a legacy difficulty selector on the menu first.
Content should never be removed, only added. And yeah, that means old Azeroth should still be accessible too, especially to level through for the people who don't like the post Cata world changes, the Caverns of time is a thing, no reason for it not to be.
A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don’t have one, you’ll probably never need one again.
I would rather there be new ways to get them in the live game, through professions or quest lines or other such things.
I don't think you should have to play a crappy 13 year old version of the game to get them, and if they do go that route I at least want them not to show up as "uncollected" in the collections tab.
I agree there should be some cosmetic reward in retail for playing classic. Not the other way around because that would pollute what people have asked for. The reason people are against it is because people enjoy gatekeeping when it comes legacy content and they genuinely believe that hypothetical people are awed by things that are currently unattainable.