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  1. #61
    Would actually like there not being anything neutral. Like hamuul and malfurion fighting for their factions. Dalaran going Alliance, etc.

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    Well, remember we're talking about the Dalaran where the Forsaken (Sylvanas) are who control half of the city in opposition to the worgen (Greymane).

    After Sylvanas losing her precious Lordaeron at hands of Greymane (as he is the main counselor of the High King of the Alliance) in the middle of a supposed open war, it wouldn't make any sense that the Forsaken and the Horde in general would be keen on staying in a city whose leading council no longer has horde members (but it does have alliance loyalists) and that has proven in the past not being trusted (the purge as a precedent).

    In my view, the options Blizzard has in order to solve this situation are only two:

    1º - The easy way: Not mentioning Dalaran, the Kirin Tor nor Khadgar during the "Battle for Azeroth" in order to assume that, inexplicably, there is war over all the planet except in Dalaran which stays neutral despite all the above.

    2º - The logical way: The Sunreavers, along with the Forsaken, carry out their final revenge against the Kirin Tor through a plot from within, resulting in the destruction of the flying city (or turning it into an new urban BG) which would inevitably force Dalaran to join again the Alliance.
    Last edited by Northem; 2017-11-09 at 05:58 PM.

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    Hopefully Alleria kills Khadgar when he decides to remain neutral for his betrayal of the Alliance and the Sons of Lothar.

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    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Where’s Dalaran and Khadgar?
    Khadgar will be sent off soon(tm) and can do his awful dad puns and jokes until we need him again. (Source)

    So at the end Blizzard always chooses the easy way... All right. You don't deserve my money, good luck Blizzard!
    Last edited by Northem; 2017-11-09 at 05:58 PM.

  5. #65
    So Dalaran really stays neutral, oh man the Alliance is hopefully outgunned in arcane expertise then.

  6. #66
    Surprisingly(or not), the Alliance probably won't seek the allegiance of Dalaran even though Jaina talks about seeking allies. Blizzard will blissfully ignore the existence of Dalaran throughout BfA.

  7. #67
    If they do go Alliance yet again, I hope this is the last time they flip flop on that. If they banish the blood elves again, I hope it's for good, and the Blood Elves realize that they have the freaking Sunwell. They don't need the humans' almighty knowledge of magic.

  8. #68
    Assuming Dalaran and the Kirin Tor will even be in BfA, probably neutral.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    So Dalaran really stays neutral, oh man the Alliance is hopefully outgunned in arcane expertise then.
    Doubt it. Even with the Nightborne and Blood Elves working together against the Alliance with no Dalaran, some rinky dink level 12 human mage will still wipe the floor with them, because humans > everyone else at literally everything, as Blizzard has been beating into our heads since after Kael'thas died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLoadbearer View Post
    as Blizzard has been beating into our heads since after Kael'thas died.
    Garithos whipped that teenager around and threw him into a cell. Hardly worth the mention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megas Elekmatos View Post
    She sure did leave. Because her small narrow minded views weren't accepted. Let's se where her head is at now.
    Those same narrow small views were proven correct. She said if they trusted the horde, they would be attacked by them. The first thing Sylvanas does after Argus campaign is plan to attack stormwind. It's pretty clear she was right all along.
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    Dalaran is neutral but I think Khadgar probably sides more with the Alliance than the Horde he just realizes that we have to work together sometimes. Sorta like Jaina when she was still Thrall's best bud even though she is Alliance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Northem View Post
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Where’s Dalaran and Khadgar?
    Khadgar will be sent off soon(tm) and can do his awful dad puns and jokes until we need him again. (Source)

    So at the end Blizzard always chooses the easy way... All right. You don't deserve my money, good luck Blizzard!
    Hopefully we get a Sons of Lothar reunion first!
    Last edited by CreatureLives; 2017-11-10 at 01:22 AM.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by gcsmith View Post
    Those same narrow small views were proven correct. She said if they trusted the horde, they would be attacked by them. The first thing Sylvanas does after Argus campaign is plan to attack stormwind. It's pretty clear she was right all along.
    As of the last Blizzcon panel we still don't know how it all starts. Also; Alliance don't necessarily have their hands clean either. Then again; they usually don't admit it to begin with. Even when it is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeBogina View Post
    And judging from the events of Legion and from the cinematic of this new expansion, the Alliance is the aggressors, namely Genn and Jaina.
    Which is incorrect, because you are missing the context of this, which shows Sylvanas actively planning to start a war with the Alliance during a time of peace (note her considering disbanding the unified horde army, something that she would never consider were they already at war), and this, in which the a dev says the the assault on the Undercity is a direct response to the burning of Teldrassil.

    So, all the evidence we have actually points to the Horde hitting first. Which means, if the humans of Dalaran are in a defensive alliance with the Alliance, they would be on the Alliance side.

    But they will be neutral anyways (as is said by the blizzard quote above on this page) because that's what they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeBogina View Post
    Undead*(kinda like those soldiers anduin resurrected)
    1. It was a heal, not a rez.

    2. There's a difference between resurrection and necromancy. The former restores people to actual life, not undeath, the other doesn't.
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  16. #76
    Khadgar will make sure to keep Dalaran neutral and as far a way from the conflict as possible so expect Dalaran to remain around the Broken Isles moping up.

    Besides does he want a Kirin Tor civil war again with the Belfs and the other members of the horde currently residing there?

    Also he knows if there is another threat against Azeroth then Dalaran will act as a beacon of cooperation between the Horde and the Alliance and i doubt he would risk that just to join a petty faction war that will result in nothing except alot of death and destruction.
    Last edited by yetgdhfgh; 2017-11-10 at 03:34 AM.

  17. #77
    I think there’s a chance Dalaran gets destroyed somehow. Either that or they concentrate heavily on helping Magni with Azeroth. I don’t see many other story options that would cause Khadgar and Dalaran to just disappear.

  18. #78
    Unlike some previously neutral parties, Khadgar seems to see there's no point in partaking in a faction war. Isn't he also the Guardian now? That job transcends factions and Dalaran may have fused into it.

    Gameplay reason: We've seen too much of Dalaran already, it's time for it to take a backseat.
    Now you see it. Now you don't.

    But was where Dalaran?

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