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[Steampunkette]

Is that why the most popular selling books directed at women always feature big muscular men with no shirts?
Or how the most popular male characters for women tend to be young to youngish looking men with muscles often wearing no shirt?
Or how even female writers tend to make their characters closely follow normal standards of female beauty?
Or why standards for attractive female clothing tends to be clothes that insinuate the female form? Your own avatar is a good example of this. This has also been a standard for most, if not all of human history, even in female centered groups.

Certainly not saying all women like this, but most of them? No doubt. Standards of beauty are universal for men and women both. Stop thinking "What I like" is "What most people like"

Most popular selling books directed at women... I'm guessing you mean Romance Novels? They're essentially porn. Word porn, but porn. The biggest publisher of those books is Harlequin. Founded by Jack Palmer and Doug Weld... Two dudes. Huh. Well those two dudes Left the company to Richard Bonnycastle and he gave Editorial Control over to Mary Bonnycastle who -refused- to publish sexually explicit materials, favoring more "Romantic" romance novels than were being submitted. Until her husband Richard Bonnycastle read one of the smuttiest ones he could get his hands on and lifted her ban on porny books and sent the modern romance novel as you know it into production.

The history of Harlequin continues on for some time, but since the 70s, romance novels for women have been marketed with dudes on the cover because men decided that's what women wanted to see and full of sexually explicit (or lightly couched) scenes and phrases 'cause a guy thought it was sexier. You know who the current CEO is? Craig Swinwood.

And yeah. They tend to be young to youngish looking men with no shirt, but they don't tend to be images of Power and Ready Violence, but sexy dudes -being- sexy. Like... did you even -watch- the video?

Body language, posture, expression, movement, all help to portray a character as powerful versus sexy. The dudes on the cover of romance novels, even at their biggest, most muscular, and least shirted, are still not battlescarred bruisers looking toward the horizon for the next chance to kill someone.

That's a Power Fantasy. Not a sexual fantasy.

I'm not even -talking- about what I like, since my favorite male body type is "Pudgy" and I'm honestly more attracted to women, sexually. I'm talking about how the people involved are presented and who they're presented for.

Also worth noting: BEAR.



Bear is a Bantam Books romance novel, best seller in Canada, which involves a woman being banged by a Bear. Not by a big gay man with a lot of body hair, an actual honest to god BEAR. I'm not going to link the cover 'cause she's naked with the bear's paws hiding her boobs, but yeah. She talks about how she wants the bear to rip her apart mid-sex.

... BEAR.

[kasuke06]

gotta love that stance. a man wearing nothing is a male power fantasy! a woman wearing nothing is a male sexual fantasy!

So, is anything not the fault of all us terrible, horrible, evil, no good, dirty, smelly men?

[Steampunkette]

gotta love that stance. a man wearing nothing is a male power fantasy! a woman wearing nothing is a male sexual fantasy!

So, is anything not the fault of all us terrible, horrible, evil, no good, dirty, smelly men?

Are you intentionally missing the point or is it just not clear?

Nudity itself isn't the issue. How much or how little is being worn isn't the whole of the story. Context is key. A big musclebound dude ready for battle without a shirt on to show off how strong he is is a POWER presentation. A big musclebound dude doing a sexy dance is a SEXUAL presentation, unless it's being played for laughs, of course (which it almost always is)

[kasuke06]

Are you intentionally missing the point or is it just not clear?

Nudity itself isn't the issue. How much or how little is being worn isn't the whole of the story. Context is key. A big musclebound dude ready for battle without a shirt on to show off how strong he is is a POWER presentation. A big musclebound dude doing a sexy dance is a SEXUAL presentation, unless it's being played for laughs, of course (which it almost always is)

and a woman who's wearing slightly less than a full suit of armor(because what kind of moronic archer would be cavorting around in full armor if they need to move?) while making enemy soldiers into pincushions is still just a sex thing to you.

I bet you're one of the people who bemoaned dragon's crown for being "too sexualized" on the female designs while ignoring the fact that the person wearing the least clothing was the male dwarf.

[Steampunkette]

and a woman who's wearing slightly less than a full suit of armor(because what kind of moronic archer would be cavorting around in full armor if they need to move?) while making enemy soldiers into pincushions is still just a sex thing to you.

I bet you're one of the people who bemoaned dragon's crown for being "too sexualized" on the female designs while ignoring the fact that the person wearing the least clothing was the male dwarf.

Quick! Is this woman trying to look sexy in her string bikini or is she trying to look strong?



Here's an anime girl wearing plate armor. Is the artist trying to make her look strong or sexy?



Context.

Sylvanas started wearing the plate armor bikini 'cause it was sexy. And she was portrayed as a sexual fantasy, visually, like so many women in fantasy. The big muscley orcs without their shirts on are not portrayed as a sexual fantasy, because they're trying to portray the power fantasy of the (presumed male) player.

And I beg you and everyone else: Don't pull out the "But Sexiness -is- power for women!" canard 'cause that'll lead to a whole other thing none of us want to deal with.

[Toppy]

Quick! Is this woman trying to look sexy in her string bikini or is she trying to look strong?



Here's an anime girl wearing plate armor. Is the artist trying to make her look strong or sexy?



Context.

Sylvanas started wearing the plate armor bikini 'cause it was sexy. And she was portrayed as a sexual fantasy, visually, like so many women in fantasy. The big muscley orcs without their shirts on are not portrayed as a sexual fantasy, because they're trying to portray the power fantasy of the (presumed male) player.

And I beg you and everyone else: Don't pull out the "But Sexiness -is- power for women!" canard 'cause that'll lead to a whole other thing none of us want to deal with.

No they just arent seen as a fantasy because you outright refuse to see it that way. You're arguments boil down to "I'm right you're wrong" and even you're examples are pretty awful. That anime girl is a bit of both. The muscular woman isnt exactly a good example either because you're arguing against a specific point: that women like muscular men and women like sexy women. Yes, the muscular women in context isnt meant to be sexy, but that has NOTHING TO DO with the argument at hand, you're deflecting, poorly. You keep deflecting, poorly.

What you're arguing is INTENTION not context. Was it blizzards intention to make some male characters sexy? Likely not, but who cares, they are. Was it their intention to make Sylvaanas sexy? Likely, does that devalue her as a character or make her less likeable to women? Not at all, women can like it just as much as men can unless you're trying to argue that women are only supposed to like a small subset of "not sexy" things.

Hell, your argument regarding novels is entirely pointless because the person writing them doesn't matter. They are directed towards, and hugely popular with, women. Does not matter at all that men wrote it.

Also, the BEAR novel is more along the lines of a parody of romance novels. Not a serious romance novel.

[TheFirstOnes]

Quick! Is this woman trying to look sexy in her string bikini or is she trying to look strong?



Here's an anime girl wearing plate armor. Is the artist trying to make her look strong or sexy?



Context.

Sylvanas started wearing the plate armor bikini 'cause it was sexy. And she was portrayed as a sexual fantasy, visually, like so many women in fantasy. The big muscley orcs without their shirts on are not portrayed as a sexual fantasy, because they're trying to portray the power fantasy of the (presumed male) player.

And I beg you and everyone else: Don't pull out the "But Sexiness -is- power for women!" canard 'cause that'll lead to a whole other thing none of us want to deal with.

Girl's when half naked, and strong: Sexual Fantasy...

Men when half naked: Strong fantasy...

Okay...okay....

So, let's just forget about Varian, Khadgar, Turalyon, and other strong "MALE" Characters then. Being half naked shouldn't mean shit. Demon Hunter's are half naked because that's how they fight. Sargeras is half naked cause he was made to be that way.

Sylvanas was half naked because that's how she fought. She fought, wearing that armor. That was, until she decided to get an upgrade.

It has NOTHING to do with sexiness, nor power. It just has to do with how you fight.

Also, to the 2 pictures you sent:

One's a body builder, the other's a litteral fucking knight...

[kasuke06]

the first is attempting to show off her incredible musculature and fake tan for a competition, the second is a mixture of both power and sexy. you can tell from the use of worm's-eye viewpoint(subject above viewer, looking down, presents power and/or social station) relatively close to full armor, and posture making a point of "why are you even speaking to/looking at me?" the somewhat unkempt hair is also a mixture as it implies a warrior's stance towards haircare, but the fact that she's fiddling with it indicates that she does still wish to make it more presentable in her own eyes. also note the musculature in the abdominal region, the typical "sexy" female is presented as being toned, without excess musculature, whereas a full six pack is typically presented artistically as a show of a female character having a large amount of physical strength without needing to draw massive arms attached to a small house sized torso as they would typically do with a male character.

[Toppy]

Girl's when half naked, and strong: Sexual Fantasy...

Men when half naked: Strong fantasy...

Okay...okay....

So, let's just forget about Varian, Khadgar, Turalyon, and other strong "MALE" Characters then. Being half naked shouldn't mean shit. Demon Hunter's are half naked because that's how they fight. Sargeras is half naked cause he was made to be that way.

Sylvanas was half naked because that's how she fought. She fought, wearing that armor. That was, until she decided to get an upgrade.

It has NOTHING to do with sexiness, nor power. It just has to do with how you fight.

Also, to the 2 pictures you sent:

One's a body builder, the other's a litteral fucking knight...

Even the "More armor is good for them" argument falls flat in WoW given the huge prevalence of magic and monstrous strength.

[TheFirstOnes]

Even the "More armor is good for them" argument falls flat in WoW given the huge prevalence of magic and monstrous strength.

Oh yeah. Forgot about that...

Sorry Varian....

[Toppy]

Oh yeah. Forgot about that...

Sorry Varian....

To be fair, Varian wasnt wearing a helmet, the single most important piece of gear if you're trying to argue the importance of armor.

But, what at all, is Sylv's leather corset going to protect her from? A blow from the monstrously large weapons both sides use? the likely magic arrow of an elf archer? bullets? magic? Of course its already been established that Sylv's skin is incredibly hard due to her transformation.

[Steampunkette]

No they just arent seen as a fantasy because you outright refuse to see it that way. You're arguments boil down to "I'm right you're wrong" and even you're examples are pretty awful. That anime girl is a bit of both. The muscular woman isnt exactly a good example either because you're arguing against a specific point: that women like muscular men and women like sexy women. Yes, the muscular women in context isnt meant to be sexy, but that has NOTHING TO DO with the argument at hand, you're deflecting, poorly. You keep deflecting, poorly.

What you're arguing is INTENTION not context. Was it blizzards intention to make some male characters sexy? Likely not, but who cares, they are. Was it their intention to make Sylvaanas sexy? Likely, does that devalue her as a character or make her less likeable to women? Not at all, women can like it just as much as men can unless you're trying to argue that women are only supposed to like a small subset of "not sexy" things.

Hell, your argument regarding novels is entirely pointless because the person writing them doesn't matter. They are directed towards, and hugely popular with, women. Does not matter at all that men wrote it.

Also, the BEAR novel is more along the lines of a parody of romance novels. Not a serious romance novel.

Intention IS the point, Context is how you can tell the difference.

If the Devs made the guys to be big and strong for the boys to enjoy the fantasy of being the big and strong then that character is a Male Power Fantasy. They're designed to be POWERFUL. If the Devs made the girls to be sexy for the boys to enjoy the viewing of them then the character is a Male Sexual Fantasy. That is the context I'm saying exists.

That there are some women who think the big strong guys are sexy is an added bonus, not the designer's intent.

And certainly not equivalent to designing the female characters to look hot for the guys.

The point I'm making is that the argument "Well some women like the big musclebound power-strong-fantasy guys so that makes it the same thing as drawing women as sexual-fantasy characters!" is a canard. It's a dodge. It's a False Equivalence between two somewhat similar things.

And yeah. I'm not saying Sylvanas is a bad character or devalued or whatever. I'm saying that we should recognize that these two things are not equivalent.

You just seem hellbent on making it about my sexual preferences or opinion on what other women like rather than taking in the actual argument for some reason.

[TheFirstOnes]

Intention IS the point, Context is how you can tell the difference.

If the Devs made the guys to be big and strong for the boys to enjoy the fantasy of being the big and strong then that character is a Male Power Fantasy. They're designed to be POWERFUL. If the Devs made the girls to be sexy for the boys to enjoy the viewing of them then the character is a Male Sexual Fantasy. That is the context I'm saying exists.

That there are some women who think the big strong guys are sexy is an added bonus, not the designer's intent.

And certainly not equivalent to designing the female characters to look hot for the guys.

The point I'm making is that the argument "Well some women like the big musclebound power-strong-fantasy guys so that makes it the same thing as drawing women as sexual-fantasy characters!" is a canard. It's a dodge. It's a False Equivalence between two somewhat similar things.

And yeah. I'm not saying Sylvanas is a bad character or devalued or whatever. I'm saying that we should recognize that these two things are not equivalent.

You just seem hellbent on making it about my sexual preferences or opinion on what other women like rather than taking in the actual argument for some reason.

But...but...

The Strongest Being in WoW is a Female....

Our own Planet...the thing we walk on...is a female Titan...

She's said to be stronger than Sargeras. She's said to be able to take on the Void Lords in due time...

So don't say "The Devs made Females for the male characters to eye on", if you know that's not true...

[Steampunkette]

But...but...

The Strongest Being in WoW is a Female....

Our own Planet...the thing we walk on...is a female Titan...

She's said to be stronger than Sargeras. She's said to be able to take on the Void Lords in due time...

So don't say "The Devs made Females for the male characters to eye on", if you know that's not true...

Therazane. Fucking HOT, amirite fellas?



Yeah, that's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying Sylvanas was put into Skimpy Armor (Same with Alexstraza and Ysera and however many other characters) to be sexy for the guys, not a power fantasy for the girls. I'm saying Illidan isn't shirtless 'cause women find him sexy, but because it's part of a male power fantasy. That some women find him sexy is not the reason he's shirtless.

And one last thing: I'm not making a Value Judgement or a Moral Judgement, here. I'm just saying that the argument that "Shirtless Dudes exist in the game so it's equal!" is not a valid argument. There's a whole mess of cultural baggage to unpack if we actually wanted to get into a Value judgement.

[Toppy]

Therazane. Fucking HOT, amirite fellas?



Yeah, that's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying Sylvanas was put into Skimpy Armor (Same with Alexstraza and Ysera and however many other characters) to be sexy for the guys, not a power fantasy for the girls. I'm saying Illidan isn't shirtless 'cause women find him sexy, but because it's part of a male power fantasy. That some women find him sexy is not the reason he's shirtless.

No one is arguing that Sylvaanas wasnt made to be sexy.

The point is, so what? That doesn't mean women can't like her, doesn't mean she is cheapened in any way as a character. Just saying "Sylvaanas was made to be eye candy for men" is a COMPLETELY POINTLESS statement if you cannot provide a single thing other than that.

And stop trying to deflect, once again, poorly.

You do not have any argument other than "They were designed to be like this". So what, they can be designed for group X and still be great for group Y. They can still be designed as one thing and be recognized as another.

Sylvaanas can be sexy for guys, while also being a power fantasy for women even if that wasnt intended. To say otherwise is to argue that women should never aspire towards beauty or want to be sexy.

Illidan can be found sexy by women even if he's a male power fantasy. To say otherwise it to say women cannot find muscular men attractive.

[Steampunkette]

No one is arguing that Sylvaanas wasnt made to be sexy.

The point is, so what? That doesn't mean women can't like her, doesn't mean she is cheapened in any way as a character. Just saying "Sylvaanas was made to be eye candy for men" is a COMPLETELY POINTLESS statement if you cannot provide a single thing other than that.

And stop trying to deflect, once again, poorly.

You do not have any argument other than "They were designed to be like this". So what, they can be designed for group X and still be great for group Y. They can still be designed as one thing and be recognized as another.

Sylvaanas can be sexy for guys, while also being a power fantasy for women even if that wasnt intended.

Illidan can be found sexy by women even if he's a male power fantasy.

Again, the argument I'm countering is "Sure the girls were made to be sexy, but so were the guys!"

No. The guys were not made to be sexy. They were made to be strong. That some people find them sexy is a bonus.

Any other discussion, like the discussion on whether or not that sort of character design appeals to women or is likely to drive them away, or whether or not it is an extension of a toxic mindset in which all men must be powerful and all women must be sexy and any crossover of the two is viewed as disgusting or challenging to standard western gender roles is a separate affair. The discussions that came over the past 5 pages are likewise not what I'm trying to cover.

I'm just saying "This argument is false" because I hate seeing that argument come up. I'm glad I've convinced you of that point (if convincing was needed) and that we've come to the understanding that the strong topless male characters aren't designed to be eye-candy for female gamers.

[TheFirstOnes]

Therazane. Fucking HOT, amirite fellas?



Yeah, that's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying Sylvanas was put into Skimpy Armor (Same with Alexstraza and Ysera and however many other characters) to be sexy for the guys, not a power fantasy for the girls. I'm saying Illidan isn't shirtless 'cause women find him sexy, but because it's part of a male power fantasy. That some women find him sexy is not the reason he's shirtless.

And one last thing: I'm not making a Value Judgement or a Moral Judgement, here. I'm just saying that the argument that "Shirtless Dudes exist in the game so it's equal!" is not a valid argument. There's a whole mess of cultural baggage to unpack if we actually wanted to get into a Value judgement.

As I said once before, i'll say this ONCE AGAIN: There's no "male" Fantasy in this game.

Illidan is shirtless cause that's the day Demon Hunter's are. They wear little armor. ALL Demon Hunter's are like this. Other than them, and The Titans, The Horde races are the only ones that wear Half Naked Armor. And that is due to their savagery. The Alliance races wear a FUCK ton of Armor. That is, if you discount Druids.

Eonar is half naked cause she's the Life Binder. Not because of the "Male Fantasy". Sargeras, Khaz'goroth, and Aggramar are half naked. Archimonde is half naked, Kil'jaeden is half naked.

Sylvanas was half naked cause her Armor came from when she was Ranger General. Her skin alone was hard af, due to the Banshee buffs she got from Arthas.

Alextrasza and Ysera are Half Naked as well, yes. BUT, Nozdorumu is also half naked. And, fun fact, if you take away both Sylvanas, Eonar, and the Aspects, there's barely any half naked Woman in this game...

Sylvanas NOW is fully Armored up, Jaina's armored up, Tyrande's the same way. Yrel, Whitemane, The Alliance Commanders, and others all have battle armor that cover up their bodies. Same goes with the Lightforged, the Legion commanders, Alleria, and so forth...

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Also, some guys WERE made to be Sexy. That's why Blood Elves are positioned the way they are...

You seem to forget that this Game isn't Sexist...

Male Characters are made to be strong. Female Characters are also made to be Strong...

Some are made to be Sexy, but MOST are made to be Strong...

Aegwynn was strong, Jaina is strong, and so were the other Characters...

How do you not get this by now?

[Steampunkette]

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Why do demon hunters not wear armor on their chests?

Are Demon Hunters incapable of wearing, say, chain mail armor? They're demonically powered, so surely they'd be able to bear the additional weight and it wouldn't be limiting their motion at -all- with the massive weights they swing around at the ends of their arms. And surely any magical wards they put on could -also- be placed on, over, or under the chainmail because it's Magic and only has whatever rules we make for it. They could cut a hole in the back for their wings if need be, or wear it like a corset with laces in the back or that wrap around the front.

So why. Is Illidan. Shirtless?

Why did the Creative Devs sit down and go "Nah! Let's not give this character a lot of armor. In fact: We'll give him a bare chest and add on some sick looking tattoos!"?

Why is Conan shirtless? Why does Darr the Beastmaster wear a fur loincloth, boots, and wristbands while running around the desert?

These characters do not exist in a vaccuum. Someone sat down and decided what they'd look like. And their designs were made to fulfill a specific fantastic role, a fantasy if you will. When you were playing the RTS and got to control Illidan, he wasn't shirtless because Magic allows him to ignore damage because all mages would be shirtless rather than wearing robes if that were the case. Freaking Antonidas would be running around in a speedo with his beard hanging down over his chest if "Magic" was the only reason. Mages wear robes because it fulfills a specific fantasy.

Why did Sylvanas wear a plate armor bikini with her tummy exposed? 'Cause it was sexy. Not because she needed the mobility or she's really good at dodging. She doesn't exist as a person. Someone wanted her to look sexy and BAM! she was sexy. That's it.

Again, I'm not trying to make Judgement Arguments here. I'm not saying "WoW is Sexist because it shows scantily clad female heroes!". I'm saying that the argument that shirtless guys and plate bikini girls are both designed to be sexy is a false equivalence.

[TheFirstOnes]

Why do demon hunters not wear armor on their chests?

Are Demon Hunters incapable of wearing, say, chain mail armor? They're demonically powered, so surely they'd be able to bear the additional weight and it wouldn't be limiting their motion at -all- with the massive weights they swing around at the ends of their arms. And surely any magical wards they put on could -also- be placed on, over, or under the chainmail because it's Magic and only has whatever rules we make for it. They could cut a hole in the back for their wings if need be, or wear it like a corset with laces in the back or that wrap around the front.

So why. Is Illidan. Shirtless?

Why did the Creative Devs sit down and go "Nah! Let's not give this character a lot of armor. In fact: We'll give him a bare chest and add on some sick looking tattoos!"?

Why is Conan shirtless? Why does Darr the Beastmaster wear a fur loincloth, boots, and wristbands while running around the desert?

These characters do not exist in a vaccuum. Someone sat down and decided what they'd look like. And their designs were made to fulfill a specific fantastic role, a fantasy if you will. When you were playing the RTS and got to control Illidan, he wasn't shirtless because Magic allows him to ignore damage because all mages would be shirtless rather than wearing robes if that were the case. Freaking Antonidas would be running around in a speedo with his beard hanging down over his chest if "Magic" was the only reason. Mages wear robes because it fulfills a specific fantasy.

Why did Sylvanas wear a plate armor bikini with her tummy exposed? 'Cause it was sexy. Not because she needed the mobility or she's really good at dodging. She doesn't exist as a person. Someone wanted her to look sexy and BAM! she was sexy. That's it.

Again, I'm not trying to make Judgement Arguments here. I'm not saying "WoW is Sexist because it shows scantily clad female heroes!". I'm saying that the argument that shirtless guys and plate bikini girls are both designed to be sexy is a false equivalence.

D...do you know Demon Hunter lore, like...at all?

Demon Hunter's are Mobile. They're supposed to be swift, and fast for the kill. They're like Druids, if their main purpose was to both become a Demon, and slay Demons...

Conan is Shirtless the way the Horde Males are Shirtless. Cause, Savagery, and Arenas, and shit...

Sylvanas is shirtless due to similar reasons as the Demon Hunters. Hunter's are supposed to be Sharp, fast, and aimful for the kill. They're supposed to be swift, and unheard. Think of them as Ranged Rogues, but with pets and bows and shit...

The more Armor you have, the less focus and Hunter you are...

Sylvanas is the Warchief now. She wasn't like she was back in WC3/Wrath. Back then, she had her Ranger General armor on, and she still went her Hunter ways. Now, she's on the Front Lines, leading and shit. It's like asking why Anduin's wearing Armor as a Priest. It's the fucking Front Lines, where you're expected to fight, and die. This isn't a sneak attack, or an infiltration or some shit. This is an all out assault...

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Oh, and before I end it.

Allow me to show you the differences between an Infiltration, and an Assault:

Infiltration's: Mardum, the Illidan Harbinger's Chapter, The Forge Of Souls/Pit of Sauron, and so forth. There, for mardum, the Demon Hunter's needed only themselves for their first part of the Strike, while they needed help for the second part of the Strike. They needed more Troops, and more gear. Same goes with Sylvanas, and her "Struggle" with the Lich King. Her bow was great, but Arthas had enough Armor on to protect himself from her blows.

Armor is the main thing for Assaults. Sneak attacks work for when it's short. And that's the Demon Hunter's Main strat. They're mostly like Demonic empowered Rogues, just...less stealthy...

Gotta remember this, Sylvanas got fucked by Arthas when he assaulted Quel'Thalas. However, when she struck Arthas from a Sneak Attack, she actually got him...

You have to understand that some people aren't good on the front lines. And, if they are on the Front Lines, they need a fuck ton of protection. Sylvanas' Old Armor won't be helpful against assaults such as Lorderon, or Quel'thalas. But, it can be useful for short Sneak attacks. Same goes for the Demon Hunters...

[Toppy]

As I said once before, i'll say this ONCE AGAIN: There's no "male" Fantasy in this game.

Illidan is shirtless cause that's the day Demon Hunter's are. They wear little armor. ALL Demon Hunter's are like this. Other than them, and The Titans, The Horde races are the only ones that wear Half Naked Armor. And that is due to their savagery. The Alliance races wear a FUCK ton of Armor. That is, if you discount Druids.

Eonar is half naked cause she's the Life Binder. Not because of the "Male Fantasy". Sargeras, Khaz'goroth, and Aggramar are half naked. Archimonde is half naked, Kil'jaeden is half naked.

Sylvanas was half naked cause her Armor came from when she was Ranger General. Her skin alone was hard af, due to the Banshee buffs she got from Arthas.

Alextrasza and Ysera are Half Naked as well, yes. BUT, Nozdorumu is also half naked. And, fun fact, if you take away both Sylvanas, Eonar, and the Aspects, there's barely any half naked Woman in this game...

Sylvanas NOW is fully Armored up, Jaina's armored up, Tyrande's the same way. Yrel, Whitemane, The Alliance Commanders, and others all have battle armor that cover up their bodies. Same goes with the Lightforged, the Legion commanders, Alleria, and so forth...

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Also, some guys WERE made to be Sexy. That's why Blood Elves are positioned the way they are...

You seem to forget that this Game isn't Sexist...

Male Characters are made to be strong. Female Characters are also made to be Strong...

Some are made to be Sexy, but MOST are made to be Strong...

Aegwynn was strong, Jaina is strong, and so were the other Characters...

How do you not get this by now?

I do get it.

What you dont seem to understand is that a character can be multiple things and original intent does not prevent a character from being something outside that intent.

Also:
Jaina is wearing cloth. She is, if anything, less armored than before as before she had what looked like armor on her top.
Tyrande armored down from her original inception. She now wears a frilly silken dress.
Whitemane is wearing a bathing suit, though if you meant new Whitemane, she's now has an exposed midsection.
Sylvaanas shows a lot of skin still

Your examples continue to be bad.