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    Football riots in Brussels to celebrate Moroccan WC qualification

    After Morocco qualified for the WC Football in Russia next year, about 300-2000 supporters came out to celebrate. Celebrations quickly turned into a riot, with cars being set on fire, shop windows being smashed and stores being looted.
    Police arrived on the scene with a water cannon to disperse the trouble-makers. 22 Police officers were injured, 0 arrests were made. Due to the fact that no one was arrested or detained, it's highly unlikely anyone will be fined for what happened last night.

    Link to an English translation of the article (public Belgian news):
    http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.en...sels/1.3095920

    Shops were looted and cars set on fire in the centre of Brussels on Saturday night as celebrations of Morocco’s qualification for next year’s football World Cup in Russia turned nasty. What had initially had been an outpouring of joy at their country of origin’s qualification on the streets around the Stalingradlaan degenerated into violence when around 300 of the 2,000 or so supporters that had gathered at the Brussels Stock Exchange started to damage property and loot.

    22 police officers were injured and 1 member of the public hospitalised during the violence late on Saturday evening. It is not yet known whether the member of the public injured was involved in the violence or was simply an innocent bystander.

    A eye-witness said told journalists that a group of around 300 people started to destroy street furniture and damage cars. The trouble-makers through missiles and a bus from the Brussels public transport company MIVB was damaged.
    Shortly afterwards the police arrived. Water cannons were used to disperse the trouble-makers at the Stock Exchange. However, the situation remained tense. Later the cannon were used again on the Lemmonierlaan. There two cars were set on fire.

    The rioters also looted a number of shops. On Sunday morning no one had yet been arrested. However, police are currently looking at CCTV images of Saturday evening’s events.
    Some images of these peaceful celebrations:







    0 Arrests. How is this even possible? A lot of civilians have been criticizing the extremely slow and tepid police intervention and are pointing to the politically left majority in Brussels, who have been going all in to cater to immigrants in light of next years crucial general elections, where the immigrant vote could be the difference maker.

    In Antwerp the Moroccan qualification was also celebrated by groups of people crowding the streets and blocking traffic, all perfectly normal:

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    well, what was the cause of such riots ?
    guess what germany shops would look like with our 10:0 win ratio in the qualification if we did it like those moroccans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranzino View Post
    well, what was the cause of such riots ?
    guess what germany shops would look like with our 10:0 win ratio in the qualification if we did it like those moroccans.
    Simply having won apparently. That area has always been a problem with that demographic, here it was rather calm probably as it was paired with 11/11 (start of carnival).

    Police took the long to get on the scene, the problem is it takes too long for these thugs to get picked up and trialed and often they don't get locked up for various reasons. We do have an agreement with morocco so send them there to sit out their sentence their, if we start acting on that i'm sure they would sing a different tune rather quickly if they have to sit in a jail for a month there.

    So it's a structural problem, but with Belgium complex political landscape, this is more a Brussels problem rather than that of other regions and i really have little to nothing good to say about how that region has been ran for the last 2 decades that i remember. For example if you look up how many police districts there are in Brussels and most of it is all due to Mayors of municipals not wanting to give up some of that power for a more effective policing force. First time it went this out of hand so maybe it's a wake up call for some politicians over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myz View Post
    In Antwerp the Moroccan qualification was also celebrated by groups of people crowding the streets and blocking traffic, all perfectly normal:

    Not sure if that's sarcasm or not, going out that it is and apologies if it isn't. But that behavior is rather normal here and not limited to Moroccans, Turks, Italians even Belgiums do that. It's pretty well know that once a football match is played and someone wins, you better invest in earplugs and don't drive through those areas as you'll get locked down.

    It isn't suppose to be allowed and police does act generally with fines, i know of a story of an italian that got fined three times in a single evening for the same thing and i'm fairly certain since this now took place that group of thugs pretty much fucked it over for the rest of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Not sure if that's sarcasm or not, going out that it is and apologies if it isn't. But that behavior is rather normal here and not limited to Moroccans, Turks, Italians even Belgiums do that. It's pretty well know that once a football match is played and someone wins, you better invest in earplugs and don't drive through those areas as you'll get locked down.

    It isn't suppose to be allowed and police does act generally with fines, i know of a story of an italian that got fined three times in a single evening for the same thing and i'm fairly certain since this now took place that group of thugs pretty much fucked it over for the rest of us.
    I have NEVER ever seen a group of 150-200 people walk on the main streets in either Brugge or Gent without them actually having been closed down for traffic and/or under police guidance, and I've lived in either city for over 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myz View Post
    I have NEVER ever seen a group of 150-200 people walk on the main streets in either Brugge or Gent without them actually having been closed down for traffic and/or under police guidance, and I've lived in either city for over 10 years.
    Seen it happen in Genk more than once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Seen it happen in Genk more than once.
    Was just going to bet you were talking about Limburg. Classic.

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    When did sports riots become political?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myz View Post
    Was just going to bet you were talking about Limburg. Classic.
    Rather live here than were you are from honestly, but to each their own. You can also keep your arrogance in check if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    When did sports riots become political?
    Because this problem has been created by the political encumbents in Brussels and political decisions taken by Europe. It's not even an angry riot, it's a cultural celebration that is apparently perfectly normal and Belgians should just crawl under their covers and be silent.

    Except for these people of course, they no longer have covers to hide under:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    When did sports riots become political?
    It's more about the incompetence from the region in Brussel what is all political. It's a surprise this didn't happen sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myz View Post
    Because this problem has been created by the political encumbents in Brussels and political decisions taken by Europe. It's not even an angry riot, it's a cultural celebration that is apparently perfectly normal and Belgians should just crawl under their covers and be silent.

    Except for these people of course, they no longer have covers to hide under:
    Oh go cry a river, what the fuck does Europe have to do with this plus if you want to be part of the anti-immigrant camp at least inform yourself properly and know it's not accepted as a cultural celebration, since this is vastly different from driving around and celebrating on the street, this is purely due to failed immigration politics for years nothing to do with Europe.

    What are you some kind of VB clown?

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    So, what? Did Belgian soccer fans have dibs on smashing those windows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polyxo View Post
    So, what? Did Belgian soccer fans have dibs on smashing those windows?
    This has nothing to do with football and everything to do with what happens if you let an area decay and let it be managed by one corrupt local government after the other more interested in lining their pockets than solving problems. The mayor even came out and said the police did a good job, while there are reports of cops saying they weren't allowed to act until much later. He's probably angling to get more money and do even less with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polyxo View Post
    So, what? Did Belgian soccer fans have dibs on smashing those windows?
    I assume your tone of accepting violence is only this way because non-whites did something bad and people might not like them for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myz View Post
    Because this problem has been created by the political encumbents in Brussels and political decisions taken by Europe. It's not even an angry riot, it's a cultural celebration that is apparently perfectly normal and Belgians should just crawl under their covers and be silent.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    I assume your tone of accepting violence is only this way because non-whites did something bad and people might not like them for it?
    It’s a sports riot... US has one about every year. Is it just the race of those in the riot that maters? Soccer hooligans isn’t something new and it didn’t happen as either the result of culture or race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It’s a sports riot... US has one about every year. Is it just the race of those in the riot that maters? Soccer hooligans isn’t something new and it didn’t happen as either the result of culture or race.
    I'd say if anything, this is assimilation into European culture. Not that other parts of the world don't have sports riots. It's just different sports for different areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It’s a sports riot... US has one about every year. Is it just the race of those in the riot that maters? Soccer hooligans isn’t something new and it didn’t happen as either the result of culture or race.
    This didn't have anything to do with those rioters being Moroccan? This is boldly disconnected with reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polyxo View Post
    I'd say if anything, this is assimilation into European culture. Not that other parts of the world don't have sports riots. It's just different sports for different areas.
    What culture? Going nuts when your team wins? It’s what happens when you combine alcohol with competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polyxo View Post
    I'd say if anything, this is assimilation into European culture. Not that other parts of the world don't have sports riots. It's just different sports for different areas.
    No this is what happens if you let an area decay to the point of where you essentially created a ghetto. If culture was the exclusive cause, this would have happened in the times of my grand parents it didn't. It's an easy scapegoat and does nothing to actually solve the problem, you can easily say that moroccans caused and that would be factually accurate but i'm assuming that you with using "culture" here throw in an islamophobic comment and that's just nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    This didn't have anything to do with those rioters being Moroccan? This is boldly disconnected with reality.
    Are they Moroccan when the Kentucky wins the next national championship? Is it Moroccan when Manchester defeats Barcelona?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It’s a sports riot... US has one about every year. Is it just the race of those in the riot that maters? Soccer hooligans isn’t something new and it didn’t happen as either the result of culture or race.
    This wasn't a sports riot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Are they Moroccan when the Kentucky wins the next national championship? Is it Moroccan when Manchester defeats Barcelona?
    When even national news reports it as Moroccan caused riot, stations that are generally rather careful when targeting a group of people incorrectly, you can very much say that this yes was something caused exclusively from that demographic. Take note plenty of people that have fallen victim were also from north african or other foreign backgrounds as that part of brussel is immigrant rich.

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