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    Can a Final Fantasy or FF styled game with spaceships and aliens be awesome?

    This is the only sci fi game I could find for the DS.


    Should there be more sci fi games for the Nintendo systems?

    Can a Final Fantasy game with lasers, alien cultures, and spaceships be awesome?

    Could it be awesome if it was original and not a copy of Mass Effect, Star Wars, and/or Halo with magic and flying birds?

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    Xenosaga began on the Playstation, but the last several Xenoblade games have been on Nintendo systems. There is Star Ocean, but I don't think any of them have released for Nintendo systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stellvia View Post
    Xenosaga began on the Playstation, but the last several Xenoblade games have been on Nintendo systems. There is Star Ocean, but I don't think any of them have released for Nintendo systems.
    Xenoblade is fantasy.

    Xenoblade Chronicles X is sci fi, but Xenoblade 1 and 2 are pure fantasy with almost no sci fi elements(going off what seen from 2 so far ofc cause not out to play).

    Half of the modern FF games all have major sci fi influences. IX and XIII even have exactly what you describe in space ships, going to another planet and exploring their history etc, not as in depth as Star Wars but certainly there and part of major story arcs.

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    considering there has been multiple series that have been just that from the master system onwards to modern day i'd say yeah probably.

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    Considering the series has touched on space travel before (FF4), I'd say so. Now would it dump it's classical "fantasy" setting for something very much sci-fi? Who knows. But the space travel/ships and alien species/cultures could definitely be something they incorporate.

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    FF8 had space ships and FF9 had aliens :P

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    Xenosaga is a good series back on the PS2 that had aliens, spaceships, and piloted mechs. It is harder to think of many games today that seem to go sci-fi and not just fantasy with a sci-fi influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aoyi View Post
    Xenosaga is a good series back on the PS2 that had aliens, spaceships, and piloted mechs. It is harder to think of many games today that seem to go sci-fi and not just fantasy with a sci-fi influence.
    Just in the last 2 years... Xenoblade Chronicles X and Nier Automata are full sci fi RPGs. Obviously it's a niche, but they do get released. Full fantasy is also very much a niche at this point, with many games having original settings spanning from modern day real life to post apocalyptic worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Just in the last 2 years... Xenoblade Chronicles X and Nier Automata are full sci fi RPGs. Obviously it's a niche, but they do get released. Full fantasy is also very much a niche at this point, with many games having original settings spanning from modern day real life to post apocalyptic worlds.
    Nier is a 70's sci-fi novellists wet dream.
    -Dragon falls through wormhole that opens above populated city
    -Foreign particles spread a plague turning people into salt
    -Scientists study dragon and learn about magic
    -Some infectees meanwhile turn into berserkers with red eyes
    -City walled up and later nuked
    -This spreads plague over the world
    -Start project using magic to separate souls and science to clone bodies of infectees to put souls in to let plague burn out
    -Shit goes south and a millenia later the clones are still being made on repeat after one dies and as a medieval level society they view the human souls as monsters and have no idea the ancient ruins are shit like factories and multi story car parks

    Its like a dozen phillip k dick era novels put in a blender.

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    Phantasy Star.

    Look it up. The original literally released two days after the original Final Fantasy. Phantasy Star 2 is one of my favorite games of all time.

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    *sits here playing PSO2*
    Though on Nintendo system, at least recently, only the Switch has a streaming version of it, so it's a bit weird.
    I'll buy the switch if it gets a native PSO2 client.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Xenoblade is fantasy.

    Xenoblade Chronicles X is sci fi, but Xenoblade 1 and 2 are pure fantasy with almost no sci fi elements(going off what seen from 2 so far ofc cause not out to play).
    The numerous mechon, computer-guided airships, levitating cities, artificial intelligence, and ending say hi.

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    I'm most excited by the thought of FF returning to it's high fantasy/steampunk roots, but a full blown science fiction themed Final Fantasy would be very interesting to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valyrian the Moofia Boss View Post
    and ending say hi.
    Oh yea so ending the world to create a new one is sci fi instead of mythological now?

    There isn't a sci fi bone in XBC's body. It is literally Japanese high fantasy to a T.

    So air ships and random mechs make a game sci fi now? Literally every FF game is sci fi using that piss poor definition. Having things in common does not make things the same. Just like Telethia showing up in X doesn't magically make it fantasy.
    Last edited by Tech614; 2017-11-15 at 02:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Oh yea so ending the world to create a new one is sci fi instead of mythological now?

    There isn't a sci fi bone in XBC's body. It is literally Japanese high fantasy to a T.

    So air ships and random mechs make a game sci fi now? Literally every FF game is sci fi using that piss poor definition. Having things in common does not make things the same. Just like Telethia showing up in X doesn't magically make it fantasy.
    Xenoblade is science fantasy leaning more towards fantasy. There are just too many sci-fi elements to have it as just pure fantasy.

    All FF games pre-VII are mostly fantasy, even IV with it's aliens in the Lunariaans tends to focus more on the fantasy elements than the little sci-fi elements the game has.

    Most FF games after VII except IX, XI, and XIV, are sci-fi, with some leaning more towards fanatsy and others leaning towards sci-fi, and all of the post-VII games have some sci-fi elements to them.

    Even a more sci-fi FF game would still have some clear fantasy elements to it, kinda like XCX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhoftb View Post

    All FF games pre-VII are mostly fantasy, even IV with it's aliens in the Lunariaans tends to focus more on the fantasy elements than the little sci-fi elements the game has.

    Most FF games after VII except IX, XI, and XIV, are sci-fi, with some leaning more towards fanatsy and others leaning towards sci-fi, and all of the post-VII games have some sci-fi elements to them.
    Have you even played the FF series or did you just google images of them? IX less sci fi then X? Is this a fucking joke? You literally are an alien, find out your lineage, travel to your home planet and defeat the guy who was cloning your kind and making you into slaves. Meanwhile X is one of the least Sci Fi inspited games in the series.

    Also, yes FF games remain mostly fantasy which is my exact point. You can't magically claim they're sci fi because they have sci fi elements literally every FF game has a combination of at least 2/3 of Mechs/Airships/Space.
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    There have been sci-fi jrpgs in the past. Games like Star Ocean, Xenosaga, Rogue Galaxy, Phantasy Star, some of the Shin Megami Tensei games have some sci-fi elements. Then there are western rpgs like KotOR and Mass Effect as well as games like Fallout and Shadowrun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Have you even played the FF series or did you just google images of them? IX less sci fi then X? Is this a fucking joke? You literally are an alien, find out your lineage, travel to your home planet and defeat the guy who was cloning your kind and making you into slaves. Meanwhile X is one of the least Sci Fi inspited games in the series.

    Also, yes FF games remain mostly fantasy which is my exact point. You can't magically claim they're sci fi because they have sci fi elements literally every FF game has a combination of at least 2/3 of Mechs/Airships/Space.
    My exposure to the FF series is minimal at best, mainly from LPs, TVTropes readings, and very small playthroughs due to time or just not caring about what I played, with IV, Tactics, and Tactics Advanced being the only exceptions.

    That being said however, I may not be a big fan of the series, but I do know a thing or two.

    You're right in that X is still fantasy, but X is more sci-fi than IX was. IX was a call back to fantasy FF in a time where VII and VII were science fantasy, which were pure or mostly pure fantasy, but even IX's sci-fi elements took a back seat to it's fantasy. X has more sci-fi, especially in it's technology vs religion plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CmdrShep2154 View Post
    This is the only sci fi game I could find for the DS.


    Should there be more sci fi games for the Nintendo systems?

    Can a Final Fantasy game with lasers, alien cultures, and spaceships be awesome?

    Could it be awesome if it was original and not a copy of Mass Effect, Star Wars, and/or Halo with magic and flying birds?
    Final Fantasy has always had strong sci-fi elements. I believe you haven't been looking closely enough.
    - FF4 had the entire second half of the game dealing with invaders from the moon playing gods.
    - FF6 is literally about a clown breaking the world, courtesy of some scientists making stuff they shouldn't have made.
    - FF7 is about a planet fighting a modern corporation, an alien lifeform, and a super soldier.
    - FF8 is about a military school and a high-tech country fighting a militaristic nation against a witch frozen in lunar orbit while attacking from the future. It's complicated.
    - FF10 is about a post-apocalyptic landscape ravaged by a war between a superweapons and summoners. Neither won.
    - FF12 is literally about a war between nations founght using flying superfortresses and nuclear weaponry, egged on by superdimensional beings playing gods.
    - FF13 is about a high-tech flying cradle of humanity preserved by extradimensional entities playing gods. There is hardly a single fantasy element present in it. (It also sucks, but...)

    If you want pure scifi JRPGs, try one of the following series:
    - Star Ocean series
    - Phantasy Star series
    - Xenosaga / Xenoblade Chronicles X (also: Xenogears)
    - Front Mission
    - Parasite Eve
    - Rogue Galaxy
    ... and yes, Infinite Space

    There are also a bunch of current era games.
    - Shin Megami Tensei series, including specifically the Persona spinoff series.
    - Secret of Evermore
    - The World Ends with You
    - Earthbound
    - ... and more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danner View Post
    Final Fantasy has always had strong sci-fi elements. I believe you haven't been looking closely enough.
    - FF4 had the entire second half of the game dealing with invaders from the moon playing gods.
    - FF6 is literally about a clown breaking the world, courtesy of some scientists making stuff they shouldn't have made.
    - FF7 is about a planet fighting a modern corporation, an alien lifeform, and a super soldier.
    - FF8 is about a military school and a high-tech country fighting a militaristic nation against a witch frozen in lunar orbit while attacking from the future. It's complicated.
    - FF10 is about a post-apocalyptic landscape ravaged by a war between a superweapons and summoners. Neither won.
    - FF12 is literally about a war between nations founght using flying superfortresses and nuclear weaponry, egged on by superdimensional beings playing gods.
    - FF13 is about a high-tech flying cradle of humanity preserved by extradimensional entities playing gods. There is hardly a single fantasy element present in it. (It also sucks, but...)
    and ff9 pretends to be fantasy but its about the homunculi left on earth by now extinct humans travelling to gaia to instigate wars to kill off the indigenous population due to a tree they planted pumping out mists to fuel aggression and plant life from earth that counts as 'monsters' while the tree absorbs gaian souls and replaces them in the planets lifestream with humans which is why in game they are all OP as fug compared to everything but summoners which are their gaian counterpart. The game has you delving into temples that turn out to be crashed spaceships, going to another planet and ending in a battle in a literal memory archive and sorting system.

    FF9 is more of a stealth one but its closer to Nier than games like FF1 and if you only played it for the first disc you would never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valyrian the Moofia Boss View Post
    The numerous mechon, computer-guided airships, levitating cities, artificial intelligence, and ending say hi.

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    I'm most excited by the thought of FF returning to it's high fantasy/steampunk roots, but a full blown science fiction themed Final Fantasy would be very interesting to see.
    Wellll ffxiv does the high fantasy steampunk

    To tje OP see the already mentioned phantasy star series, the star ocean games, xenosaga, xenoblade(especially chronicoes), xenogears frankly the list can go on for ages alot exist.

    Wnat IS rare is pure fantasy.

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