Senator Al Franken accused of sexual assault

[PACOX]

Sexual Assault is wrong, but only if you're a republican, that's the gist I am getting from this thread.

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Oh he just touched her with the tips so that's OK, sexual assault can never happen if you don't physically touch them. Thank you for educating us on this subject.

Lets just ignore te context of what were discussing and what weve already said...

(Sees username)

Nevermind.

[mvaliz]

Lets just ignore te context of what were discussing and what weve already said...

(Sees username)

Nevermind.

It seems like he and the Objectivist are more interested in trying to slam people "defending" Fraken (and lets be fair, that's really only Cubby) than actually being upset about Franken or that their own are being herald like kings for their pedophilia and sexual assaults.

[cubby]

Oh right. It didn't happen if only person accused you or "it's a joke".

Gotcha - your bias is clouding your judgment. If you honestly feel that the situation with Spacey/C.K./Moore is the same as Franken, then there is nothing we can do for you. If you're open to the idea that each incident is different, then we can talk like adults.

Your choice.

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This entire story was disseminated so that people can badger others with their willful ignorance of context.

Al Franken can show poor taste and not be a sex predator.

Exactly - and considering the facts, there is room for him to be completely innocent of sexual assault.

[Dextroden]

Gotcha - your bias is clouding your judgment. If you honestly feel that the situation with Spacey/C.K./Moore is the same as Franken, then there is nothing we can do for you. If you're open to the idea that each incident is different, then we can talk like adults.

Your choice.

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Exactly - and considering the facts, there is room for him to be completely innocent of sexual assault.

The guy with a Trump avatar is calling someone biased. Love it.

[cubby]

The guy with a Trump avatar is calling someone biased. Love it.

The guy avoiding the real discussion is still avoiding the real discussion. Love it.

[Dextroden]

The guy avoiding the real discussion is still avoiding the real discussion. Love it.

the real discussion of "It's just a joke"?

[mvaliz]

The guy with a Trump avatar is calling someone biased. Love it.

Ad-Hominem attack foul. Cubby wins that argument against you as you had no out other than a lame ad-hominem.

[Dextroden]

Ad-Hominem attack foul. Cubby wins that argument against you as you had no out other than a lame ad-hominem.

PFFFT! That's hilarious coming from you and your signature.

[cubby]

the real discussion of "It's just a joke"?

No, the real discussion is listening to both sides of the story and thinking critically. Most of here are looking at the person, the events, both sides of the story, and the facts as we know then and drawing a conclusion (which I'll grant can go either way).

You seem to score cheap forum points and get groupies on board with kiddie-table opinions. You can't even answer simple questions - you're deflecting as bad as those other *woke'd* idiots we tolerate when discussing Trump and others.

If Franken is a sexual assaulter, fine, he should resign. The current situation is heavily open to interpretation, and his side seems to agree with the facts. The gag photo (poor taste, maybe, but not sexual assault), and the rehearsal kiss.

When you're ready to have an adult conversation, the rest of us who actually care about this issue will listen. Until then, enjoy your juvenile points - they're all yours.

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Ad-Hominem attack foul. Cubby wins that argument against you as you had no out other than a lame ad-hominem.

Not quite following you here.

[Breccia]

Not quite following you here.

Lemme translate.

*TWEEEEEEET*

Logical fallacy on the field -- Dextroden. Used Ad Hominem attack on Cubby instead of Cubby's argument. 10 yard penalty, still third down.

[Grapemask]

I haven't read up on enough of this to know if there's much more to it, but this probably doesn't bode well for Franken. It could be a lot worse, but Congressional sexual assault is becoming as big of a deal as Hollywood, and that's going to mean cracking down on even the "minor" offenders.

At the same time, I can't help but get an eyeroll from the immediate hypocrisy of the people screaming hardest being the ones who also defend Trump, who has been publicly and privately admitting to worse since 1990, and even more so at those who are on the Moore defense train. Takes some mighty big balls.

[Zan15]

guys
guys

ITS JUST LOCKER ROOM BEHAVIOR.

why are they giving him such a hard time at foxnews????

[Dextroden]

No, the real discussion is listening to both sides of the story and thinking critically. Most of here are looking at the person, the events, both sides of the story, and the facts as we know then and drawing a conclusion (which I'll grant can go either way).

You seem to score cheap forum points and get groupies on board with kiddie-table opinions. You can't even answer simple questions - you're deflecting as bad as those other *woke'd* idiots we tolerate when discussing Trump and others.

If Franken is a sexual assaulter, fine, he should resign. The current situation is heavily open to interpretation, and his side seems to agree with the facts. The gag photo (poor taste, maybe, but not sexual assault), and the rehearsal kiss.

When you're ready to have an adult conversation, the rest of us who actually care about this issue will listen. Until then, enjoy your juvenile points - they're all yours.

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Not quite following you here.

Okay person that defended Franken but got mad about "Locker room talk".

[mvaliz]

Not quite following you here.

Was pointing out what you basically said. He Ad-Hominem attacked you as he couldn't continue his argument. (An Ad-Hominem is when you try to attack against a person rather than the position they are maintaining because they couldn't defend their position.

In short, I was agreeing with you against him. :P

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Lemme translate.

*TWEEEEEEET*

Logical fallacy on the field -- Dextroden. Used Ad Hominem attack on Cubby instead of Cubby's argument. 10 yard penalty, still third down.

To mis-quote Rick n' Morty:

"Thanks Breccia! This guy gets it!" :P

[Elba]

Turns out the Franken accuser is a frequent guest on Hannity and birther conspiracy theorist.

She can be disregarded.

https://www.mediamatters.org/researc...e-birth/178035

She is a lying liar that lies.

[Molis]

Sexual Assault is the only crime where you are guilty before proven innocent.
Even when proven innocent your reputation is scared for life

[Grapemask]

Turns out the Franken accuser is a frequent guest on Hannity and birther conspiracy theorist.

She can be disregarded.

https://www.mediamatters.org/researc...e-birth/178035

She is a lying liar that lies.

Eh, her story is true enough from what's provable that Franken's still not in the clear. But I do think she (or handlers) had an agenda, and that is to give a "Whataboutism" target to deflect from Moore. Moore's race is salvageable if Republicans do what Fox has been training them to do for 20 years: target an enemy to overshadow what their own guy is doing.

[Elba]

Eh, her story is true enough from what's provable that Franken's still not in the clear. But I do think she (or handlers) had an agenda, and that is to give a "Whataboutism" target to deflect from Moore. Moore's race is salvageable if Republicans do what Fox has been training them to do for 20 years: target an enemy to overshadow what their own guy is doing.

The photographer says the picture is staged. She is playing dead and eh is acting as if reviving her. Can't trust these Fox women.

[draynay]

Let it play out, no need to vilify or exonerate right now.

[Daelak]

The photographer says the picture is staged. She is playing dead and eh is acting as if reviving her. Can't trust these Fox women.

Wow, that's pretty disgusting if this was orchestrated on the part of Hannity and Sinclair broadcasting as a way to deflect from Moore's pedolhilic behavior.