Roy Moore: allegations of sexual misconduct with minors

[Travis B]

Alabama governor Kay Ivey has come out and essentially said she has no reason not to believe that Roy Moore is a child molester, but she's going to vote for him anyway because better that than a Democrat.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...r-moore-anyway

[cubby]

Alabama governor Kay Ivey has come out and essentially said she has no reason not to believe that Roy Moore is a child molester, but she's going to vote for him anyway because better that than a Democrat.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...r-moore-anyway

Gotta love the deep inbRED state. The shitshow keeps getting worse.

[Moralgy]

Alabama governor Kay Ivey has come out and essentially said she has no reason not to believe that Roy Moore is a child molester, but she's going to vote for him anyway because better that than a Democrat.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...r-moore-anyway

What happened to the party that once claimed cared a shit ton about "family" values and would use it as an attack against their opponents?

[Draco-Onis]

What happened to the party that once claimed cared a shit ton about "family" values and would use it as an attack against their opponents?

Apparently the point of these Christian family values is to grope children.

[alexw]

What happened to the party that once claimed cared a shit ton about "family" values and would use it as an attack against their opponents?

They never had "family values". It was just a smokescreen to disguise their bigotry and hatred for those that were not like them.

[Lenonis]

Are they, though? In what regard are they objectively better?

For starters their economy policy is (generally) not based on the fantasy of trickle down.

Many studies have shown that equal rights protections have economic benefits.

There are objective ways to measure the impacts of things that I'm sure you feel are subjective.

[Dacien]

What happened to the party that once claimed cared a shit ton about "family" values and would use it as an attack against their opponents?

Kate Harding, a feminist writer, blogger, and podcast host had this to say about the allegations against Al Franken and whether he should step down:

"I hear you asking, 'Because Republicans won’t do the right thing, we shouldn’t, either?' But if the short-term “right thing” leads to long-term political catastrophe for American women, I think we need to reconsider our definition of the right thing."

She's making the argument that by advocating for Franken to vacate his seat, that would empower the Republicans who wage war on women, the Republicans who limit women's rights. So in her eyes, the short term "right thing" isn't actually the right thing at all; the truly "right thing" is to protect women's rights by standing by Franken even in the face of the allegation against him.

(It's important to point out I don't personally think Franken should step down).

This is a lot of the same sentiment coming from people on the right in regards to Moore. Of course the allegations against Moore are much more heinous, but these people are thinking, "Is the short-term "right thing" really the right thing, or is the truly "right thing" to oppose a pro-abortion Democrat who's just fine with killing unborn babies"

I'm not speaking for or against any of these sentiments, I merely wanted to point out the thought processes that are occurring which are leading people to inexplicably still support Moore. And that's to say nothing of the ill-informed who just think it's a big political attack and doubt the veracity of the allegations. There are a lot of people, I personally believe, who have thrown their hands in the air and just don't believe anything anymore.

[Mittens]

Alabama governor Kay Ivey has come out and essentially said she has no reason not to believe that Roy Moore is a child molester, but she's going to vote for him anyway because better that than a Democrat.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...r-moore-anyway

Imagine being this much of a partisan hack.

[mvaliz]

What happened to the party that once claimed cared a shit ton about "family" values and would use it as an attack against their opponents?

This is from the same fukwits who believed a lie that Hillary was running some child sex ring out of a pizza joint in NYC, then turn around and disbelieve an actual admitted PROUD Pedophile in their ranks, and they vote for him.

This is ONLY about one thing... hating liberals to the point where nothing else matters. They will gladly set their own morality and laws on fire if it means defeating the "enemy" liberals.

[beanman12345]

Imagine being this much of a partisan hack.

While I agree with the sentiment, if Moore is elected, the senate is gonna expel him, and IIRC she get's to pick the replacement. So It might be more advantageous for her to vote Moore over the dem.

[Kujako]

While I agree with the sentiment, if Moore is elected, the senate is gonna expel him...

Sure they will... just like all those Republicans said they would never support Trump, until he was the nominee.

[Breccia]

Apparently the point of these Christian family values is to grope children.

I mean, Joseph did it to Mary, or some other bullshit argument, I don't even remember.

[Wyrt]

Al Governor: I Believe Roy Moore Molested And Abused Children, But I’ll Vote For Him Because He’s Republican

https://latest.com/2017/11/al-govern...es-republican/

What ungodly amount of fear mongering and brainwashing goes on in the south?

[Draco-Onis]

Sure they will... just like all those Republicans said they would never support Trump, until he was the nominee.

They will say they need his vote for tax reform apparently they will sell their first born for that.

[beanman12345]

Sure they will... just like all those Republicans said they would never support Trump, until he was the nominee.

It's the only logical reason I can come up with, but you are probably right, either way this imo makes her a horrible person.

[PACOX]

What ungodly amount of fear mongering and brainwashing goes on in the south?

I must have missed those verses.

[Belize]

What ungodly amount of fear mongering and brainwashing goes on in the south?

HHURRRR KILLARY HUSSEIN OBAMA IS CUMMING FOR ER GUNRS.

Essentially.

[Rasulis]

Al Governor: I Believe Roy Moore Molested And Abused Children, But I’ll Vote For Him Because He’s Republican

https://latest.com/2017/11/al-govern...es-republican/

Only in USA 2017, an Alabama Mall has a higher moral code than the United States Senate.

[Draco-Onis]

Only in USA 2017, an Alabama Mall has a higher moral code than the United States Senate.

To be fair they have a higher moral code than the justice system in Alabama, this guy went from ADA to a judge.

[Mormolyce]

Al Governor: I Believe Roy Moore Molested And Abused Children, But I’ll Vote For Him Because He’s Republican

https://latest.com/2017/11/al-govern...es-republican/

Alabama governor Kay Ivey has come out and essentially said she has no reason not to believe that Roy Moore is a child molester, but she's going to vote for him anyway because better that than a Democrat.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...r-moore-anyway

IMO the fact that anyone is willing to state, in public, that they will vote for a child molester because in their mind that's better than voting for the other party is proof positive that partisan politics has become an existential threat to democracy. Like, state of emergency, suspension of democratic norms level.

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Kate Harding, a feminist writer, blogger, and podcast host had this to say about the allegations against Al Franken and whether he should step down:

"I hear you asking, 'Because Republicans won’t do the right thing, we shouldn’t, either?' But if the short-term “right thing” leads to long-term political catastrophe for American women, I think we need to reconsider our definition of the right thing."

She's making the argument that by advocating for Franken to vacate his seat, that would empower the Republicans who wage war on women, the Republicans who limit women's rights. So in her eyes, the short term "right thing" isn't actually the right thing at all; the truly "right thing" is to protect women's rights by standing by Franken even in the face of the allegation against him.

(It's important to point out I don't personally think Franken should step down).

This is a lot of the same sentiment coming from people on the right in regards to Moore. Of course the allegations against Moore are much more heinous, but these people are thinking, "Is the short-term "right thing" really the right thing, or is the truly "right thing" to oppose a pro-abortion Democrat who's just fine with killing unborn babies"

I'm not speaking for or against any of these sentiments, I merely wanted to point out the thought processes that are occurring which are leading people to inexplicably still support Moore. And that's to say nothing of the ill-informed who just think it's a big political attack and doubt the veracity of the allegations. There are a lot of people, I personally believe, who have thrown their hands in the air and just don't believe anything anymore.

I'm not excusing what Franken did, and I don't agree with this woman's logic at all, but he and Moore are apples and oranges. Moore has a long sordid history of sexually propositioning and possibly assaulting underage schoolgirls to the degree that it was common knowledge among people around him. Franken grabbed a boob in an ill-advised joke one time, and possibly used a sketch as an excuse to force a woman to kiss him.