In regards to the Moonguard/Project 60 drama

[Eleccybubb]

From what i've seen in project 60, is impossible for a tank to tank anyhting in white gear. They take so much damage and wipe all the time because of the tanks...and they are stacked with blue gear.

That's why I said a mixture of white and green gear. They purposely make it hard on themselves.

Not all guilds do it but quite a few do.

[Jastall]

He never said anything like that himself. Nice try though.

What he did say is that they went to Moonguard because it’s a realm that doesn’t have sharding, therefore everyone can see/play with each other without worrying about that shit. All rp realms don’t have sharding so it wouldn’t have made a difference which one they went to.

Honestly it’s a bunch of delusional people thinking that these streamers specifically targeted them. They’ve all stated it’s due to sharding, before they even went there they said it was due to sharding. Delusional people will be delusional though.

I get that the RP community is a bit upset over this and I kind of understand why if it’s causing lag or anything like that but the people who are upset because they think the evil streamers targeted their realm specifically because of its status are crazy.

And I'm sure it's a complete and total coincidence that they chose 1) the biggest RP server and 2) the most infamous one, with a sub-set of players that are very easy targets for trolling. They even got on the Alliance side of Moon Guard, for maximum effect. They're streamers, they'll do whatever kicks up a storm to generate views and the memes that their audience loves so much.

I'm not a RPer, but I really don't trust their excuses at all. They did not choose Moon Guard at random among the 17 RP servers in the US.

[Fabled]

What level 60 bosses? With modern gear and tuning even the toughest boss at 60 gets obliterated in under a minute.

The vanilla bosses they brought back with the anniversary. Dragons of Nightmare, Kruul, Kazzak and Azuregos. But it was Kazzak and the few that were there had actual raid gear, they just died because they didn't have any alliance healers to heal them, I was a horde hunter.

[Deleted]

That's why I said a mixture of white and green gear. They purposely make it hard on themselves.

Not all guilds do it but quite a few do.

The DPS in full grey gear i would totally agree with, while 6 maning it. Some bosses are dying too fast with only 2 DPS.
But the tanks...i think its impossible xD
They are dying on big trash mobs and some bosses.

The DPS should totally be in grey gear to be more challenging.

[Al Gorefiend]

Yeah. They only chose RP servers for the non-sharding and limited CRZ. It happening to be Moon Guard well.. there's only like 6 RP realms lol. Feathermoon, BR, ThB, SU, Sentinel and Farstriders are merged now iirc, so it was either them, Moon Guard or WrA. I don't think there's any malicious, it just landed there.

[Eleccybubb]

The DPS in full grey gear i would totally agree with, while 6 maning it. Some bosses are dying too fast with only 2 DPS.
But the tanks...i think its impossible xD
They are dying on big trash mobs and some bosses.

The DPS should totally be in grey gear to be more challenging.

It's not. The health increase to tanks makes it easy.

That so called 60 guild with the "streamers" are dying because they are trying to 6 man it. Stick the normal amount of healers in for a 40 man then see if they drop. If they do then the healers are bad.

[oldgeezer]

I don't get it. PvP players can now complain that there is too many non-pvp players playing on PvP realms.

Isn't that the point of PVP servers? Everyone chooses a massively faction-imbalanced side in their favour and treats it as PVE?

Anyway, getting back on topic. I hope the tiresome attention seekers get their wish and find the attention of a GM directed at them. Or better still, suspend their asses.

[Deleted]

My computer is broken right now so i can't watch streams. But the one stream i watched of Project 60 was a 3 hour wipe fest in Blackwing Lair and they eventually gave up on Chromaggus after god knows how many attempts.
It was fun because they couldn't use repair bots, so they had to walk all the way down to to the low level instance (forgot the name) and walk all the way back up to BWL.

Why couldn't they use repair bots? We used repair bots in vanilla.

[Sithalos]

Can't say I feel sorry for the pornshire crowd.

[fluffyflailplush]

Basically, this whole thing is what has always happened when a large group of people just found out about a goldshire that happens to have that sort of stuff, Always the same thing, ever since 2005. Even the same with just finding RP'ers. exact same stuff Always cute to watch a new crowd fawn at the current infamous ERP server. and act like they haven't seen worse on the internet.

[clevin]

If it was purely to avoid sharding, why not go to a dead RP realm like Silver Hand or something? Why one of the 2 most popular RP realms that *actually* has RPers on it?

Because streamers are self centered asshats?

[Polybius]

how is it not relevant to the server?

the only ppl that are getting bothered are ppl that want to get bothered and then cry about it somewhere.. thats the RPer life i guess

That's like saying the only people that get bullied are people that want to get bullied and complain about it elsewhere. That's not life, that's denying and excusing the circumstances at best. Only masochists or unconcerned bypassers advocate silence.

[Craaazyyy]

That's like saying the only people that get bullied are people that want to get bullied and complain about it elsewhere. That's not life, that's denying and excusing the circumstances at best. Only masochists or unconcerned bypassers advocate silence.

this is not bullying tho.. this is just a game

[Lochton]

So RP'ers are upset that non-RPer's are playing on a Role Playing realm? I mean if that's the case then they have a decent complaint and I know Blizzard has taken action against non-rper's on rp realms.

Sadly Blizzard doesn't take much action on it anymore. The reason that the Project Sixty slackers are on RP servers sounds to be an excuse of phasing, which is bullshit anyways. The drama is that some of these go and disrupt events - most RP'ers don't even care about Goldshire on the two servers they selected. The problem lies when they go in and for the 'lols' starts spamming shit.

I'm from AD and for now, counting about 3-4 Project sixty guilds on Alliance and the same amount on Horde, it is more an influx of people trying to level like vanilla even though they already failed the challenge upon starting their characters.

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the only ppl that are getting bothered are ppl that want to get bothered and then cry about it somewhere.. thats the RPer life i guess

The people that want to get bothered? You mean, the people who play the game to roleplay are wanting to get bothered? That is kindda a bullshit statement.

[Ulfric Trumpcloak]

WHat drama dude? Nobody gives a crap about them. Keep doing your thing and ignore them, since apparently they're not capable of doing it themselves.

I remember when Towelliee was starting out, he used to go with his stream to moonguard from time to time and they would make a huge deal about it every time. These people are mostly 30-50 year old virgins with nothing better to do with their lives. The video game is their life, that's how pathetic they are.

[Taeldorian]

That's what I'm guessing, but I've seen a lot of people use that as the main reason to do it there (not you, but others).

How is it not a valid reason to play on an RP server? You can’t “group up” to avoid sharding, unless they made it so parties can carry over 1000 people. Vanilla never had it and they want this event to be as close to vanilla as possible.

Also, people can play on whatever server they want. You understand that right? You don’t need to RP to play on an RP server, there’s a few raiding guilds on moonguard I know of that have never role played and don’t care to.

If people are getting harassed by Dbags then report them. If this entire event is causing the server to lag (which I haven’t seen) then maybe at that point something should be fixed. I’m sure people are getting harassed, most streamers chats are extremely annoying and toxic so I’d expect nothing less. In that case then just report the person/people doing the harassing.

However, people are free to go wherever they want. Should I not be allowed on a pvp server because I have no intention to pvp? That’s just ridiculous. I’m not involved in any of this shit but if I want to play on moonguard I will whether my intention is to role play or not, the server isn’t just for role playing.

Hopefully they pick a dead server next time to avoid this kinda stuff.

[Kellorion]

If i was Blizz
New ToS

ERP of any kind strictly forbidden, then just kill off moonguard/goldshire inn. Thats just disgusting.

[Lucetia]

How is it not a valid reason to play on an RP server? You can’t “group up” to avoid sharding, unless they made it so parties can carry over 1000 people. Vanilla never had it and they want this event to be as close to vanilla as possible.

It's no where close to vanilla as possible. Stop trying to act like it is. Secondly you don't need to have 1000 people in your party either. Running around as a guild killing stuff isn't necessary either because we didn't do it in vanilla either. If you want to group up, it'll merge you.

Also, people can play on whatever server they want. You understand that right? You don’t need to RP to play on an RP server, there’s a few raiding guilds on moonguard I know of that have never role played and don’t care to.

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/6368778173

You do realize Blizzard has stated multiple times in the past that if you aren't abiding by Role Playing realm rules then you can be reported.

[Taeldorian]

It's no where close to vanilla as possible. Stop trying to act like it is. Secondly you don't need to have 1000 people in your party either. Running around as a guild killing stuff isn't necessary either because we didn't do it in vanilla either. If you want to group up, it'll merge you.



https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/6368778173

You do realize Blizzard has stated multiple times in the past that if you aren't abiding by Role Playing realm rules then you can be reported.

That’s in the past. Give me something current. It’s obviously changed now or they would have thrown them all a ban and said don’t go to the server without role playing intentions. Ornyx and the CMs are aware of this event and even enjoy it, so it’s clearly allowed.

The rules are obviously different now or else they all would’ve been banned. Ornyx even said they’re aware of this and enjoy the project 60 “hype” but any harassment should be reported. So, the rules have clearly changed. Stop linking shit from 5 years ago.

Also, go ahead and quote me where I said project 60 is exactly like vanilla. Quote me where I said it’s close to vanilla. I didn’t say any of that at all. I said they want it to be as close to vanilla as possible but I never stated that it was or wasn’t. “it’s no where close to vanilla as possible. Stop trying to act like it is” reread what I said because I never once stated it was close. I said that’s the intention.

TLDR: If those were still the rules, they would’ve been banned already. Ornyx said they are aware of this event and any harassment should be reported. He never said anything about not being allowed on an RP server without rp intentions. It’s very clear those rules are not in effect.

[Polybius]

this is not bullying tho.. this is just a game

A game people pay for. No one likes being bothered, let alone by anyone breaking the game's rules.