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Because what you're aiming to skip is the *ENTIRE* point of the game. Go play something else if you just want to play instead of "grind"Originally Posted by Rinnegan
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Thread: no-grind package in ingame shop?
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2017-11-20, 07:02 PM #61Please wait
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2017-11-20, 07:07 PM #62The Lightbringer
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Pay to win in wow would be the ability to buy gear. It is not pay to win to buy an instant max level char. If you buy a character that has maxed out gear then you do it for the gear, not the level.
"Only Jack can zip up."
The word you want to use is "have" not "of".
You may have alot of stuff in your country, but we got Lolland.
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2017-11-20, 07:31 PM #63Immortal
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have you leveled a character recently? being able to do this, which shouldn't even be remotely possible, doesn't qualify it as an involved experience by any definition of the word. Could do that shit in your sleep without the slightest worry. That is the opposite of an involved experience. Originally Posted by Snorlax
Mythic 5 mans, even up at the level required for maximum weekly reward chest loot, being a simple matter of "pull group, spam AoEs" isn't an involved experience either.Last edited by Schattenlied; 2017-11-20 at 07:39 PM.
A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don’t have one, you’ll probably never need one again.
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2017-11-20, 07:42 PM #64Immortal
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Progress is also a matter of perspective, where we're going right now looks more like regression to me. Originally Posted by Snorlax
This also has nothing to do with time sink, something can be involved, require the player to actually pay attention, and still go quickly... Those things are not mutually exclusive, why you people always think they are is beyond me.
Leveling IS supposed to be content, after all, not something just supposed to be rushed through as quickly as possible. Of course people should have the option to do that (which is the point of heirlooms and boosts, they could even increase the xp boost on heirlooms if needed), but the people who want to level and enjoy it as the content that it is should be able to as well, they currently can't. We can have both of those things at once.Last edited by Schattenlied; 2017-11-20 at 08:18 PM.
A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don’t have one, you’ll probably never need one again.
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2017-11-20, 09:25 PM #65The Lightbringer
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Quit the game, OP. I know i did for the same reasons as you after 12 years of non-stop WoW involvement. My life is far better now. Plus, i get to bash this shit.
Stop asking for p2w./spit@Blizzard
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2017-11-20, 09:33 PM #66Old God
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So a purchasable gear for the mythic raiders wouldn't be pay for win just because they're grinding? Originally Posted by Rinnegan
Yeah, keep saying that to yourself...
P2W is when you are getting advantage - so the thing you proposed is exactly P2W.
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2017-11-20, 09:42 PM #67High Overlord
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Some peoples end-game is Normal or Heroic raiding. By passing everything you need to do to get beyond what the game is designed for is pay-to-win. Do you secretly work for EA to try and show you're not wrong in putting Pay-To-Win in Battlefield 2? Originally Posted by Rinnegan
Your logic is crap. You don't understand this game obviously.
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2017-11-20, 09:45 PM #68Immortal
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what the fuck is wrong with you, go play battlefront if you wanna p2w
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2017-11-20, 09:48 PM #69The Lightbringer
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As much as I get your feelings (I can't really do any serious raiding because my time is limited during uni and I can't do all the necessary preparation in order to enter a raiding guild or a raid pug.... but it wouldn't be WoW then. It would be a different game. Offering a method to buy stuff like that would damage the game and its community. In various ways. And there would be no going back (just like with things like Flying where once it has been introduced, it hurts to be deprived of).
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2017-11-20, 10:01 PM #70Immortal
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Except this proposed package includes hc-raid ready gear. It is P2W. Originally Posted by Mandible
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2017-11-20, 10:05 PM #71The Insane
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All of these power boosts you get for paying real money is the very defination of Pay To Win. Character boosts are bad enough but what you suggest would ruin the game.
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2017-11-20, 10:15 PM #72Herald of the Titans
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It all depends on someones point of view, as to what Progression actually means. Is leveling progression? Is unlocking difficulties progression? Is earning gear progression? Originally Posted by Rinnegan
Blizzard already ran with P2W elements, so I wouldn't be surprised if they actually implement this sometime. Sounds great. I stopped playing retail long ago because of these sort of changes, so I guess I don't mind either way at this point. WoW fans today are simply not the same people I used to play with
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2017-11-20, 10:16 PM #73High Overlord
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Buying a lvl 100 or 110 character isn't pay to win. If they had a 110 boost, I couldn't buy one and start raiding normal/heroic/mythic properly. I could get carried no problem but that still isn't paying to win. Originally Posted by McNeil
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2017-11-20, 10:20 PM #74I am Murloc!
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You should consider playing another genre, given your list of games you should consider MOBAs or any other genre of games w/ lobbies that can be played in short sessions.
MMOs in general and MMORPGs in particular are all about grinding and being endless, grind is a staple of this genre.Last edited by ls-; 2017-11-20 at 10:24 PM.
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2017-11-20, 10:34 PM #75Deleted
How the fuck has this thread not been closed yet and OP banned?!
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2017-11-20, 11:04 PM #76Herald of the Titans
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Casuals, cant live with them, cant live without them. Originally Posted by Varitok
Content drought is a combination of catchup mechanics and no new content.
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2017-11-20, 11:23 PM #77Scarab Lord
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OP is everything wrong with the video game industry right now.
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2017-11-20, 11:27 PM #78Dreadlord
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2017-11-20, 11:35 PM #79Epic!
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Yeah but it's 50 per code, and you need to have at least 1 code to beat the final boss. Originally Posted by Hunterwep
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2017-11-20, 11:39 PM #80Herald of the Titans
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Hey man, dont stop there. Here is a GREAT idea for you. Pay someone else to just play the game for you. Every so often when they get some new gear or a cheevo they can screen shot it to you, this method will make life 10000x Easier for you. maybe an hour a night or so you can log in and just stand in a major city and admire how much progress "you" have made on your toon. Originally Posted by Rinnegan
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