Why I injected myself with an untested gene therapy

[SupBrah]

On one hand it's dumb, but on the other... What's honestly the worse that could happen? He dies? He's on borrowed time as is.

[Darknessvamp]

Who's to say it's not just a giant hoax for money. Why else would you stream it?

There was an instance of a woman, can't remember what she had or where she was from, that faked her illness to sell products that didn't work. She's in jail now... but I wouldn't put it past anyone else to fake something for profit.

True that's a possibility but then there's also the possibility he is an attention whore/craves standing out considering he clocked in his well paid job and apartment because "he wasn't happy", still does the same sort of work but demands cryptocurrency as payment and enjoys getting involved in protests so he can take part in some good ole vandalism. Also going by one of the "researchers" comments, he wasn't particularly chuffed about the whole set up.

If he has enough money understanding to do this. The problem though is this method is untested and if something goes wrong it will doo so immediately. I don’t think making value judgments of this man are appropriate. It’s his body his choice. He’s trying to cure himself I say I hope he’s successful. Although he most likely will lol not.

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If he kills himself he’s cured of HIV.

Well his track record makes him seem rather loony. Also Hah!

On one hand it's dumb, but on the other... What's honestly the worse that could happen? He dies? He's on borrowed time as is.

So rather than potentially dying around his 70s, he dies before he's even 30? lol okay seems like a great investment.

[Deleted]

On one hand it's dumb, but on the other... What's honestly the worse that could happen? He dies? He's on borrowed time as is.

HIV isn't terminal though...

[Xar226]

The article is too long to quote so read the article but basically he's experimenting on himself to try and cure his HIV. My question; Brave and admirable OR insane and irresponsible?

Insane and irresponsible. There is a reason that medical solutions need to be tested. Even if it works and cures his HIV, we have absolutely no idea what the long-term effects are. What if he's trading HIV for cancer?

Further, this is not a case where he is dying and desperate; it is not a terminal cancer patient trying whatever because what is there to lose? HIV today is highly treatable and you can live a long and full life with it.

[StayTuned]

Would you kill yourself for a more comfortable life?

Seems really, REALLY stupid to me. But I value my life

Why do you care? It's not your life.

[urasim]

Why do you care? It's not your life.

Why do you care? It's not your life either.

[StayTuned]

Why do you care? It's not your life either.

I care because I'm glad he does it to himself and not to someone else.

Imagine he kept people chained up in his basement, infecting them with HIV only to perform those experiments on them in hopes of finding a cure.

Imagine that.

It could be so much worse. Guy is basically a hero.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Easy for people NOT in his shoes to dismiss him as "irresponsible" for trying whatever he can...

[callipygoustp]

Considering the advances in treatments for HIV... he's a bit fucking nuts imo.

[Orange Joe]

Would you kill yourself for a more comfortable life?

Seems really, REALLY stupid to me. But I value my life

Millions of people around the world risk this every day just going to work.

[urasim]

Millions of people around the world risk this every day just going to work.

We aren't talking about someone in chronic pain, 10 out of 10 pain, every day. We're talking about something that isn't terminal and is now considered a manageable condition.

[Kithelle]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41990981



The article is too long to quote so read the article but basically he's experimenting on himself to try and cure his HIV. My question; Brave and admirable OR insane and irresponsible?

Depends, if he happens to find a cure he will be considered brave and admirable, if he fails, gets worse, or even dies from this then he will be looked upon as insane and irresponsible.

Just the way the world works...

[Frolk]

What the fuck do yoga instructors know about gene therapy?

Bet its the same yoga instructor that said that vaccines are bad, and earth is flat.

[Orange Joe]

We aren't talking about someone in chronic pain, 10 out of 10 pain, every day. We're talking about something that isn't terminal and is now considered a manageable condition.

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I'm talking about people working deadly jobs so they can improve their lives.

[urasim]

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I'm talking about people working deadly jobs so they can improve their lives.

That's great. That's not the topic. Go create a thread about that. Or... You know.... Stick to the topic?

[Orange Joe]

That's great. That's not the topic. Go create a thread about that. Or... You know.... Stick to the topic?

It was a direct reply to your statement. If my reply is off topic, so is your statement.

[urasim]

It was a direct reply to your statement. If my reply is off topic, so is your statement.

My statement was referring the the illness talked about in this thread, HIV. Then you started going off randomly about other illnesses and bringing us off topic.

[Gorsameth]

Considering the strict rules (for a good reason) around use of human testing this sounds HIGHLY illegal and the sort of thing that would get everyone involved banned for life from any form of medical employment.

[Orange Joe]

My statement was referring the the illness talked about in this thread, HIV. Then you started going off randomly about other illnesses and bringing us off topic.

Your statement was about people not wanting to risk their lives to improve it. You are factually wrong.

[urasim]

Your statement was about people not wanting to risk their lives to improve it. You are factually wrong.

With regards to THIS illness. Not OTHER illnesses. Why is this so hard for you?

Nothing in my post even hinted at other illnesses.