Mafia 96 Game Thread - Viva Las Vegas!

[dupti]

Okay well, then I'll explain why I do not think it was a good idea.

First of all, I have a very hard time understanding your logic.

-> You reveal your restrictions because you believe other TPR's have them as well. But by revealing your exact restrictions (and with Crissi now claiming she has the one sentence thing as well), you're basically telling scum to look for players who either a) disappear for 24 hours or b) only post one sentences.

Let's also assume only town have these restrictions. What you do by revealing it now is simply just giving scum an excuse for not contributing to the game, because we have absolutely no way to verify whether you're telling the truth or not (other than lynching you). Not only that, but based on Crissi's response it does not seem like we will know if you break the restriction either, so won't even be able to confirm it that way. I was thinking perhaps you'd just get modkilled but I'm assuming that is not the case since she refused to answer.

On the other hand, let's assume scum have the restrictions as well. In that case the logical conclusion from their point of view would probably be that players not on their team who have post restrictions might be important roles. They'd also probably know what to look for, seeing as you and Crissi claim to have the same post restrictions, there is a decent chance they would have it as well (if they have post restrictions).

By the way Crissi claimed that the one sentence restriction was only active one day - is it the same way for you?

Anyway, I honestly can't really comment too much on the actual restrictions with no information, but I still disagree with you revealing and I find your reasoning for revealing to be very questionable.

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Also I'm not going to lie but the fact that you could post in the thread in the first 8 hours even though you apparently were sleeping bothers me a lot

[Graeham]

Sleep: 8 hours

See you guys in 24 real hours since it's better I do it for the first half of the day phase rather than the second.

Quoting myself here since I have to 'lock in' a period of eight hours or two sets or four hours where I cannot post for the duration thanks to my character sleeping; I'm doing the best I can with the restrictions in place.

[listo95]

Okay finally back for the day... I see apparently both Graeham and Crissi can only post 1 sentence per post? I can kinda see both sides but I have to lean slightly more with dupti on the stance of Graeham saying everything he did.

[Graeham]

This is an exact repeat of the A-sayo situation, I even have the same role so I guess I will claim in full: Lieutenant Marlow - Watcher.

[Largehorn]

I've got to side with Dupti on this one. I don't like that that is now out there. If more so if it's actuallly true.

But I"m not sure it's a lynchable thing.

(unrelated my access to MMo is being really dumb right now. It takes a good 10 minutes to load and it's taking about just as long to typoe more than a single character. Not sure if it's my computer or the connection I have but it's really frustrating. Currently leaning toward my computer as my lights are even lagging. SO i'm going to disappear for a few hours and see if I can fix this.)

[Kryllian]

Mod Clarification:

It has come to my attention that Grahams rolecard inadvertently included a line about limiting him to post in single sentences when certain conditions were met. I have since clarified with him this was not in fact part of his role and was my mod error in doing some final balancing in the game role cards that it was on there. He is no longer under the one sentence post restriction.

I am currently re-reviewing all role card to ensure they are in the correct final version and will notify in QT's if anything else is corrected.

I'll also be posting a vote count, etc. after my review.

[Crissi]

Way to go kryllian, although even with that clarification I still lean on a townie graeham and I do not trust fishing expeditions.

[Graeham]

Thanks for the clarification, Kryllian.

To be honest I likely would have approached the game differently if I wasn't under the impression that I had two different post restrictions to contend with. Though these things happen.

Still, I'm glad I'm not limited to one sentence posts!

[Marack]

@Crissi Care to explain your fishing comments?

Unvote
Had on Grae from normal D1 voting.

Getting some rest from the Thanksgiving day meals. May check once or twice before I pass out. Will definitely be around the final several hours of the day.

[Kryllian]

Current Vote count after post 69 (hehe)

Greaham - Dupti (11), Robozerim (30)
Robozerim - Virothe (15)
Danner - Largehorn (16)
Listo95 - Danner (46)


With 11 players it takes 6 to lynch. With 5 votes cast it take 3 for modded majority to lynch.

[Crissi]

I imagine if you could figure out restrictions, you may be able to figure out roles too which really isn't a good thing Day1.

[Robozerim]

Mistakes in the role cards? For shame, moderator, for shame. Well, it's clear that he has a something going on, that is essentially mod confirmed. What that something is isn't confirmed, nor that his role is truly watcher, but I'll go with trusting on this one. Besides, he's had a rough time with the mistaken role card and all, so I'll give him a break for now.

unvote

Now who to move it to? I think I'll go back to my original vote for now.

Vote: Danner

[Crackleslap]

Alright I'm finally not fucking busy, will read thread now.

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Alright, I like Dupti's points about Graeham. Seemed logical so that's a +1 in my book for now. So I don't wanna lynch him. Graeham has claimed watcher it seems. It's day one, I feel like this would gift him a pass. Interesting to see some flips could probably get a better scope on what's going on.

As for who to vote today, happy to go with anyone not Dupti (Getting towny read already), Robo (hasn't played in ages!), Bloodfox (Kinda died early in previous games, wanna let him play a bit). At least for now.

Mmm really not sure where I want to go at the moment. @Marack Upon Crissi's clarification, how do you feel about Dupti?

[Virothe]

Mmm really not sure where I want to go at the moment.

Seems to be most peoples reactions to this day so far, main reason I haven't switched from Robo was waiting to see where trains went but nothing really happened at all so now it just feels like ehhhhhhhhhh.

[Danner]

Okay. That's something to wake up to.

In light of Kryllian's post, it is clear Graeham wasn't lying about the one sentence thing, and that means I also think I have to trust him on the far less controversial sleep thing.
It also means I want to trust Crissi here for having the actual one sentence mechanic. Again; given that these restrictions exist, I do not see them as scum tools.

Basically, my D1 vote on listo remains where it should be, I think.

[listo95]

Okay. That's something to wake up to.

In light of Kryllian's post, it is clear Graeham wasn't lying about the one sentence thing, and that means I also think I have to trust him on the far less controversial sleep thing.
It also means I want to trust Crissi here for having the actual one sentence mechanic. Again; given that these restrictions exist, I do not see them as scum tools.

Basically, my D1 vote on listo remains where it should be, I think.

Nah... I don't like it there. I'm sure the casino doesn't either.

[Danner]

Nah... I don't like it there. I'm sure the casino doesn't either.

Hm. Then where?

[listo95]

Hm. Then where?

Hmm... I heard the owner of this casino has some mafia connections. We should try to get him fired!

[Danner]

Are you contradicting the casino owner in the opening post here, or is this just something you're pulling out of the air?

[listo95]

Are you contradicting the casino owner in the opening post here, or is this just something you're pulling out of the air?

Something I'm pulling out of the air.

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Vote: Virothe

Just wanted to get a vote out. Will be back before end of day though to change if needed.