German pro-refugee mayor Andreas Hollstein stabbed

[Astalnar]

Sounds like he pissed off his own voters. I'm sure if he just doubles down in regards to settling migrants enriching his town, the locals will come around and let him be. As soon as the sun decides to rise from west. Truth be told, there's something missing here. Sure, migrants being settled in your town might piss off people. But I would imagine it takes a lot more to go after a man with a knife in the public place.

[Kalis]

Are people seeing that on this thread, the usual suspects are praising the act coupled with their usual menaces about how if ''people'' (IE, them) are ''frustrated'' (IE, racial purity laws are not enforced) murders will continue ? You really don't see that ?

Why do you constantly talk about the ‘usual suspects’? Why don’t you just name the posters? Quote the posts that are calling for racial purity laws.

[sarahtasher]

Sounds like he pissed off his own voters. I'm sure if he just doubles down in regards to settling migrants enriching his town, the locals will come around and let him be. As soon as the sun decides to rise from west. Truth be told, there's something missing here. Sure, migrants being settled in your town might piss off people. But I would imagine it takes a lot more to go after a man with a knife in the public place.

Like mental health issues and sites screaming ''IF YOU DON'T HAVE SEX AND A JOB, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE MIGRANTS'' ?

[Player Twelve]

Like mental health issues and sites screaming ''IF YOU DON'T HAVE SEX AND A JOB, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE MIGRANTS'' ?

Never seen anything like it. In fact, people from middle east or africa are frequently complaining they can't find any women that aren't from their own ethnicity in Sweden because Swedish women tend to stick to nordic men, or other european men and are therefore racist.

[sarahtasher]

Never seen anything like it. In fact, people from middle east or africa are frequently complaining they can't find any women that aren't from their own ethnicity in Sweden because Swedish women tend to stick to nordic men, or other european men.

No, the point was more that with my Jedi senses, I have vision of the future and can tell you that this guy will have a profile ironically quite similar to djihadists lone wolves

1)History of mental health problem...(Or drug problem, and usually both)
2)Would be charitably qualified a ''loser'' (to be fair, it's hard to have a fulfillng job with cripling mental health issues)
3)Very poor relationship with women (who, inexplicably, are not fighting each other to have sex with a jobless guy with mental health issues)
4)Sites that tell him that all his problems are simply because of Jews/Arabs/Gays/feminists and that if X-ETHNIC GROUP is exterminated, then his problems will be solved.

Mental health is not an excuse to commit crimes. However, both Nazis and djihadists recruit heavily from people with such problems.

[Player Twelve]

No, the point was more that with my Jedi senses, I have vision of the future and can tell you that this guy will have a profile ironically quite similar to djihadists lone wolves

1)History of mental health problem...(Or drug problem, and usually both)
2)Would be charitably qualified a ''loser'' (to be fair, it's hard to have a fulfillng job with cripling mental health issues)
3)Very poor relationship with women (who, inexplicably, are not fighting each other to have sex with a jobless guy with mental health issues)
4)Sites that tell him that all his problems are simply because of Jews/Arabs/Gays/feminists and that if X-ETHNIC GROUP is exterminated, then his problems will be solved.

Mental health is not an excuse to commit crimes. However, both Nazis and djihadists recruit heavily from people with such problems.

"My jedi senses", I'm fucking dying here. You really have no clue what people think of them.

[Astalnar]

Like mental health issues and sites screaming ''IF YOU DON'T HAVE SEX AND A JOB, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE MIGRANTS'' ?

Huh? What?

[Noradin]

Maybe he likes to party.

I was only explaining why they have that reputation, in Britain at least, Tollshot is British.

Hm maybe, I'm not aware that they have it in Germany where this happend.
Maybe because when clubs close kebab places are generally not allowed to still be open in Germany?

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Yes, and the actual German nazis took power legally taking advantage of the same passivity and legal obeyance. There's a limit to the desirability of non-violent confrontation and that limit is reached when armed nazis kill people.

They didn't actually, they used hostages and violence to keep members of parliament from blocking their agenda.

[GreenJesus]

The violence is wrong, but accepting 1 million refugees in a single year is bound to cause some anger in your community.

[Noradin]

I brought up the topic.

Oh, so you are a second account of the OP then?

[XDurionX]

All Orangutans are Primates, but not all Primates are Orangutans. You're just trying to hide the fact that Stalinism and Nazism are just Socialist branches.

Wow, you REALLY don't have the slightest clue.

[Kalis]

Hm maybe, I'm not aware that they have it in Germany where this happend.
Maybe because when clubs close kebab places are generally not allowed to still be open in Germany?

I was merely explaining why Tollshot made the comment, if it isn’t applicable to Germany then that is something you’d need to take up with them.

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2)Would be charitably qualified a ''loser'' (to be fair, it's hard to have a fulfillng job with cripling mental health issues)

I’m sure you can find something more fulfilling eventually.

[Deleted]

That makes no fucking sense.

The concept behind M.A.D. is that the other side knows if they launch nukes, then so do you. There is no bluffing involved when nukes are headed your way.

The actuality of a nuke scenario is more complex than that implied by a laboratory conditions experiment. In the real world, virtually all games are optimized with an element of bluff to avoid revealing one's hand to an opponent.

It is no accident that many global leaders appear crazed-this gives them an advantage as their opponents have to consider rational as well as irrational strategies.

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You are a political extremist that espouses violence, the Nazis are political extremists that espouse violence, it is up to the authorities to deal with you both when you get violent, we do not allow violent political extremists such as yourself to police the streets.

If you attack people for their politics, then you are a violent thug and deserve to go to prison. And if the Nazis attack people for their politics, then they are violent thugs who deserve to go to prison. You thinking that your cause is righteous is an irrelevance, they think exactly the same.

I have the right to defend myself from armed nazi terrorists. Apparently you think this is extremism.

That's such a ridiculous point of view I can only suspect you have far right sympathies.

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“The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.

It seems whoever wrote that disagrees with you. Do you recognise it?

Yes, I recognize it. I also recognize it because it is one of those quotations that comes up when you google Marx. Which means you didn't know anything about the subject. Do you do that when you electrical appliances on the blink? No, you call an electrician. So why are you lecturing someone who does know about the thing you are talking about?

That aside, what I said was "Indeed, it would be quite impossible for a Marxist to support the imposition of communism by force. That's not how it works." Communism is caused by the withering of the state after a socialist revolution, it is a process not something imposed from without. You simply don't know what these words mean, I was correcting you.

Marx's position on violent revolution is roughly "we'd rather have peaceful revolution but it is highly likely it would be possible given the intransigence of the state". Some Marxists believe Marx was simply emphasizing the importance of not fetishizing pacifism. Either way Marx died in 1881 when democracy in Europe was a dream, it isn't possible to transpose his attitude towards modern nation-states by cursory reference to some lurid individual passage.

[Kalis]

The actuality of a nuke scenario is more complex than that implied by a laboratory conditions experiment. In the real world, virtually all games are optimized with an element of bluff to avoid revealing one's hand to an opponent.

It is no accident that many global leaders appear crazed-this gives them an advantage as their opponents have to consider rational as well as irrational strategies.

A requisite of MAD is that both sides think the other will launch a retaliatory strike, it isn’t complicated.

I have the right to defend myself from armed nazi terrorists. Apparently you think this is extremism.

That's such a ridiculous point of view I can only suspect you have far right sympathies.

If they’re not attacking you then you aren’t defending yourself.

That you think being against political violence is a far right position is frankly bizarre.

[Mihalik]

So you are arguing that basically the whole world is socialist?

Essentially yes. All these things grew out of ideas laid down by early socialist workers movements. None of these things sprung into existence without significant popular and political pressure and are rooted in the political and economic theories of those socialist-workers movements.

As Kalis pointed out (for all the wrong reasons) you don't need to call yourself a socialist to implement socialist ideas.

[Deleted]

If they’re not attacking you then you aren’t defending yourself.

That you think being against political violence is a far right position is frankly bizarre.

If ISIS, Stalinists or any other genocidal political group marches down the street with weapons then people would and should defend themselves using their legal right to self-defense, if law enforcement abdicates its responsibility to protect the public or can no longer do so.

For some reason you have a hard-on for nazis and think they deserve special treatment. It is really fucking weird.

[Kalis]

Yes, I recognize it. I also recognize it because it is one of those quotations that comes up when you google Marx. Which means you didn't know anything about the subject. Do you do that when you electrical appliances on the blink? No, you call an electrician. So why are you lecturing someone who does know about the thing you are talking about?

That aside, what I said was "Indeed, it would be quite impossible for a Marxist to support the imposition of communism by force. That's not how it works." Communism is caused by the withering of the state after a socialist revolution, it is a process not something imposed from without. You simply don't know what these words mean, I was correcting you.

Marx's position on violent revolution is roughly "we'd rather have peaceful revolution but it is highly likely it would be possible given the intransigence of the state". Some Marxists believe Marx was simply emphasizing the importance of not fetishizing pacifism. Either way Marx died in 1881 when democracy in Europe was a dream, it isn't possible to transpose his attitude towards modern nation-states by cursory reference to some lurid individual passage.

I copy pasted the last paragraph of Marx’s Communist Manifesto and now you are claiming that can’t be used as evidence of Marxism.

It clearly wouldn’t be “...quite impossible for a Marxist to support the imposition of communism by force”, as Marx himself said “The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.”

Or were you referring to some other brand of Marxism? Maybe Groucho Marxism?

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If ISIS, Stalinists or any other genocidal political group marches down the street with weapons then people would and should defend themselves using their legal right to self-defense, if law enforcement abdicates its responsibility to protect the public or can no longer do so.

Once more, if they aren’t attacking you, it isn’t self defence.

For some reason you have a hard-on for nazis and think they deserve special treatment. It is really fucking weird.

Literally the opposite, they have the same rights as everyone else. It is you who think they deserve special treatment, or do you advocate beating up anyone that marches?

[sarahtasher]

"My jedi senses", I'm fucking dying here. You really have no clue what people think of them.

Jedi sens is fracking sarcasm. The usual profile for school shooters/most muslim lone wolf/most skinheads rats tend to be ''loner with mental health issues'', yes or no ?

[Runenwächter]

Funny that this shitshow happens and is all over the media even though it is hardly of more than regional significance but when on the same day an exhibition opens in Berlin showing the shooters of the bataklan that massacred innocents as martyrs, right wing politicial activists/identarians get beaten up by radical left on camera and a security guard gets stabbed and life threateningly injured by an afghan refugee over an argument it isnt worth someones headline. Neither is 50% of alleged unaccompanied minors that came as refugees being no minors at all and not being prosecuted or at the very least reprimanded for it.

It's a damn shame what happend to the mayor but not nearly as infuriating as the present double standart.

[sarahtasher]

Yeah, the argument ''they killed innocent people'' lose a lot of steam when used by people who trying to look tough by asking to machine gun refugees on a normal day and ask to bomb their countries on the bad days (that ''B'' tend to lead to ''A'' is too complex for some people...)