Is Neo-nazism a real threat?

[BuckSparkles]

Angry Rant Missing the Point

Chill brah, I said critics said the movie was diverse. I don't give a shit if something is diverse or not, and in the context of black panther it makes sense to have a mainly black cast.

All black isn't diverse much like all white isn't diverse.

[Daelak]

Chill brah, I said critics said the movie was diverse. I don't give a shit if something is diverse or not, and in the context of black panther it makes sense to have a mainly black cast.

All black isn't diverse much like all white isn't diverse.

Of course it is. Compare how many black majority movies there are to white majority actor movies.

[BuckSparkles]

Of course it is. Compare how many black majority movies there are to white majority actor movies.

That doesn't mean anything. It's about the cast in the movie.

As I said, an all asian movie isn't diverse, all black isn't diverse, and all white isn't diverse.

This double standard and mental gymnastics thing needs to stop. Also 90% of people don't care of a movie is diverse or not. Rather have a shit movie with all the diversity and checkboxes in the world or a good movie that has less?

[Daelak]

That doesn't mean anything. It's about the cast in the movie.

As I said, an all asian movie isn't diverse, all black isn't diverse, and all white isn't diverse.

This double standard and mental gymnastics thing needs to stop. Also 90% of people don't care of a movie is diverse or not. Rather have a shit movie with all the diversity and checkboxes in the world or a good movie that has less?

They are talking about the total existence of all movies and how blacks, and asians are wholly unrepresented in them. It means the suppression and exclusion of minority populations in movies, and in an even larger sense, society, is loosening and that a more wide array of expression is being produced for mass viewing.

[tehealadin]

Yes, they are always a threat. We know what happens when Nazis rise to power, and it can never be allowed to happen again. Even as a fringe, they still pose a potential threat.

That is why it is so disheartening to see the term being thrown around to loosely by elements on the far left, and the definition being expanded to such an extent. When people like Ben Shapiro (an orthodox Jew) and Milo Yiannopolous (an openly gay man) are labelled neo nazis, things have gotten out of kilter. This can make fighting actual neo nazis all the more difficult, as people have to stop and ask "are they really?", because according to some, anyone who doesn't support intersectional marxist identity politics is a nazi.

[Freighter]

The Nazis are actually killing people in America. Death seems like the biggest threat to me.

Negligible amount of violence from them compared to anti-abortion activists and their likes.

[Daelak]

Yes, they are always a threat. We know what happens when Nazis rise to power, and it can never be allowed to happen again. Even as a fringe, they still pose a potential threat.

That is why it is so disheartening to see the term being thrown around to loosely by elements on the far left, and the definition being expanded to such an extent. When people like Ben Shapiro (an orthodox Jew) and Milo Yiannopolous (an openly gay man) are labelled neo nazis, things have gotten out of kilter. This can make fighting actual neo nazis all the more difficult, as people have to stop and ask "are they really?", because according to some, anyone who doesn't support intersectional marxist identity politics is a nazi.

No it doesn't mean it's gone off kilter, it just means that 'neo-nazi' is defining itself as a new movement, which is the whole basis of the term 'neo'. Milo and Shapiro would be antithetical to any classical Nazi language and scapegoats to a classical Nazi. But in today's political climate, they have co-opted themselves to be disseminators of the propaganda that emboldens people with white supremacist leanings and sympathies. Those people have already been primed to become more assertive in their positions when say for example, a President tweets far right white supremacist propaganda, or when the sitting president calls white supremacist protesters "fine people". This builds the foundation for their perception that their views have moral authority and deserve to be debated on in good faith in a free society. Their characteristics as a person are irrelevant, the meat is all in their messaging.

[Deleted]

Is ISIS a real threat to America? Are ANTIFA or BLM a threat to America? If you can answer those realistically then you should be able to answer your own question.

I don't know why people assume I am only talking about US.... I am talking about worldwide

[Video Games]

The Nazis are actually killing people in America. Death seems like the biggest threat to me.

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Besides being in the White House...

You can keep parroting this all you want, but until he says we're gonna get rid of all the jews, niggers, spics, chinks and mudslimes, his actions/words don't match up to your accusations

[Saucerian]

Not yet, but I suspect as SJWs continue to crybully people into ruined lives/careers by accusing them of being white supremacists/Nazis (as well as all the isms and phobias) for simply disagreeing with them/every little slight, they will be in the future.

When Joe Schmoe says "I agree with Trump's immigration policy!" on Facebook and a bunch of whiny college students email his employer and go on about "Joe Schmoe is over on Facebook spouting racist white supremacy and its making your company look bad! He's a Nazi!" And they fire Joe Schmoe, ruining his career and life and permanently labeling him an outcast, cutting him off from civilized society, etc... Where else can he turn? Oh yeah, actual white supremacists and neo-Nazis, the only place where what he has been accused of is accepted; thus swelling their ranks. Unless he wants to kill himself or sit alone in his house for the rest of his life?

You know, like criminals and recidivism... When you label them a felon and ostracize them from civilized society, lo and behold they fall even deeper in with other criminals since that is the only outlet available to them.

Such occurrences are rare at this time, for normal people (relative to right wing internet celebrities who get accused of being Nazis every waking second)... But as I said, I expect it to become more prevalent the farther down the social justice rabbit hole we go.

Summed up nicely on page one; great post. I worry the extreme left is creating what they fear.

[sarahtasher]

Summed up nicely on page one; great post. I worry the extreme left is creating what they fear.

Ah, they invented a time machine to create the KKK and the planter insurrection still lionized today ?

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"nazi" is the last win button insult that the cucks have to throw. its the worst conceivable sin in their cult of multiculturalism.
and youre literally about to wear it out hahahahahahaha

guess what guys, its ok to be white

Why anyone would call people flying swatiskas and Nazi flags Nazis ? Congratulation for the use of the word cuck too. Nothing spells raw virility and manhood than a rat licking the boots of SS, not to mention that the SS would likely have put him in the ''subhuman vermin to be exterminated as useless for the supermen'' category.

[ati87]

changing somebody's text completely isn't a proper response.

What are you arguing anyway? You took a single bloody movie to make a stupid point that doesn't even make sense.

The fact that we have a Black Panther super hero movie seem to make you feel less secure about yourself. Like if the movie is popular enough that studio's will stop trying to whitewash movies all together.

[Elba]

Negligible amount of violence from them compared to anti-abortion activists and their likes.

Which are the same people, basically.

[BuckSparkles]

What are you arguing anyway? You took a single bloody movie to make a stupid point that doesn't even make sense.

The fact that we have a Black Panther super hero movie seem to make you feel less secure about yourself. Like if the movie is popular enough that studio's will stop trying to whitewash movies all together.

? Didn't feel less security about anything. I liked the movie. What are you ranting about?

[Saucerian]

Ah, they invented a time machine to create the KKK and the planter insurrection still lionized today ?

I assumed the topic meant a current threat ("neo" usually being affixed to something to bring it to the present)

The KKK and such exist but I'd say they'd been a declining influence until the identity politics bonanza of the 2010s starting driving out moderates and exiling the "priveleged" for the slightest self-assertion. I think the parallel with recidivist criminals is appropriate.

Truly I worry about growing influence from hate groups on both sides and dragging otherwise moderate people down to their level. They really need to be denied screen time.

Ironically I'm probably not helping perpetuating topics like this. Ciao.

[sarahtasher]

I assumed the topic meant a current threat ("neo" usually being affixed to something to bring it to the present)

The KKK and such exist but I'd say they'd been a declining influence until the identity politics bonanza of the 2010s starting driving out moderates and exiling the "priveleged" for the slightest self-assertion. I think the parallel with recidivist criminals is appropriate.

Truly I worry about growing influence from hate groups on both sides and dragging otherwise moderate people down to their level. They really need to be denied screen time.

Ironically I'm probably not helping perpetuating topics like this. Ciao.

Okay, so I suppose flying CSA flags is not ''identity politics'' ?

[Runenwächter]

Longasstextislong

I dont see them as equal, I see some, probably most right wing extremism as reactionary and temporary problem that will be far easier to handle than the rampant islamist ideologies we got here. I dont want to pain them as equals, if anything I would very clearely state that I see Islam as the far bigger problem here.

I dont have much else to say, you seem to have very different take on this then me. I wouldnt mind moving to Bautzen or any point in the middle of nowhere, but i doubt they have 50mbit DSL or even a McFit. I'd probably feel forced to bash some heads in just to stay in shape.

Most, if not all you say about Nazis I can apply to local antifa. Intimidation tactics, making you a public target and dogwistling, ruining peoples lives, all that happens. If that were to happen to me, for no good reason who could I really turn to then, who would I be forced to ally with and loot to for support in exchange for mine? You and me both dont like the answer to that.

[Happy Shoplifter]

Isn't anything right of Marxism considered Nazism these days?

[Zython]

Oh, okay, let me dig their graves up and whisper it into their bony ears. Ten people in a year? So no more dangerous than criminals? Derp.



Okay, correction, make their entire air force national socialist, then they become a threat, at the very least.

Got some bad news, fam.

[Saucexorzski]

Isn't anything right of Marxism considered Nazism these days?

Im pretty sure its gotten to the point that Marx is now a Nazis because he wasn't communist enough.