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    Jared Kushner trying to get Tillerson Fired

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ja...rticle/2642158

    A plan to oust Secretary of State Rex Tillerson from his Cabinet-level post was orchestrated in part by President Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, according to multiple sources, one of whom said the two senior administration officials have "been clashing heads since day one."

    White House officials reportedly confirmed Thursday that there are high-level discussions taking place about replacing Tillerson with CIA Director Mike Pompeo, whose own position would be filled by Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton.

    Both men have developed close relationships with Trump and appear to be on board with the plan, a former White House aide told the Washington Examiner.

    "The initial narrative had focused on [United Nations Ambassador Nikki] Haley going over to the State Department, but Pompeo has continued to increase his influence within the administration over the last several months," the aide said.

    Trump even considered Pompeo seriously as a candidate for chief of staff after he decided to replace his first pick for that role, Reince Priebus. Sources close to the White House have long described the relationship between Trump and Pompeo as warm and productive.

    "The thing about Pompeo is he spends so much of his day with the president, talking about intelligence and international affairs," said the former White House aide.

    The former Kansas congressman has also demonstrated a willingness to wade into politics to shield his boss during rocky moments. In early August, for example, Pompeo was one of the few administration officials who readily defended Trump on Sunday talk shows amid a firestorm over the president's reaction to racial violence in Charlottesville, Va.

    Tillerson, on the other hand, said Trump only "speaks for himself" on the issue of white nationalism, a comment that was widely interpreted as a repudiation of Trump's decision to condemn "both sides" for a neo-Nazi rally that spun out of control and claimed the life of an anti-racist protester.

    Trump has also pushed back publicly against Tillerson's foreign policy overtures in the past. On North Korea especially, the president and Tillerson have often appeared to pursue completely divergent paths toward curbing the nuclear ambitions of Pyongyang. Tillerson has repeatedly stressed the importance of relying on diplomatic channels to ease tensions with Kim Jong Un's regime, while Trump has made overt threats ranging from ensuring the "total destruction" of the hermit kingdom to petty name-calling of its dictator.

    More recently, Trump told Fox News' Laura Ingraham that neither Tillerson nor any other State Department staffers had control of his administration's foreign policy.

    "Let me tell you, the one that matters is me," Trump said in response to a question about the lack of appointees at Foggy Bottom. "I'm the only one that matters, because when it comes down to it, that's what the policy is going to be."

    The New York Times first reported the major shake-up on Thursday, following months of speculation that Tillerson was headed for the door. The former Exxon Mobil chief was accused in early October of insulting Trump's intelligence by calling him a "moron" during a closed-door meeting with defense officials, a claim he later said was part of "the games of Washington" but repeatedly refused to deny.

    But the former White House aide said it was Tillerson's decision last week to avoid sending a senior delegation to India for Ivanka Trump's trip to the annual Global Entrepreneurship Summit that has led Kushner to push hard for the secretary of state's firing.

    "There was increasing talk that Rex wasn't going to be on the job for long, but the Ivanka story, that was kind of the last straw. It sort of sealed the deal," the aide said, adding, "This is Jared, 100 percent. [He and Tillerson] have been clashing heads since day one."
    There's some sources that deny it's Kushner, as noted later in the article.

    My view? I think Jared and Ivanka have been using their connection to Trump and White House positions to effectively promote themselves, so I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Jared and ivanka were furious over Tillerson snubbing Ivanka's precious show in India ( seriously girl, the state department isn't YOUR marketing team ).

    So yeah I wouldn't be surprised. A quick reminder that Jared Kushner wanted Trump to appoint Elliot Abrams as Deputy Secretary of State, a convicted criminal, neocon AND Iraq war architect and was only prevented from doing so thanks to Bannon's intervention.

    Then Kushner pushed Trump to fire James Comey while quite a few of his advisers were firmly against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    There's some sources that deny it's Kushner, as noted later in the article.
    Covered in another thread. Bannon pounced like that shit in a hurry.

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    Fucking Kushner has no idea how bad it would be if Tillerson got fired and i fuckin hate Tillerson. That would mean Pompeo gets his job and fuckin Tom Cotton becomes the new head of the CIA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wolf View Post
    Fucking Kushner has no idea how bad it would be if Tillerson got fired and i fuckin hate Tillerson. That would mean Pompeo gets his job and fuckin Tom Cotton becomes the new head of the CIA.
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    It's like playing Jenga but all the blocks are made out of diarrhea that's been frozen into shape. And they're starting to melt.
    Not if they are in Siberia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wolf View Post
    Fucking Kushner has no idea how bad it would be if Tillerson got fired and i fuckin hate Tillerson. That would mean Pompeo gets his job and fuckin Tom Cotton becomes the new head of the CIA.
    Agreed, Tillerson has some really upsetting foreign contacts and some potentially disastrous conflicts of interests, but he is sane and competent. The Kushner wing of the administration has seem completely incapable of tying their own shoelaces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    It's like playing Jenga but all the blocks are made out of diarrhea that's been frozen into shape. And they're starting to melt.
    That is an absolutely beautiful metaphor.
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    It's amazing that the baseline level for competence in this administration is trying to stay out of the spotlight and not doing anything stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    It's amazing that the baseline level for competence in this administration is trying to stay out of the spotlight and not doing anything stupid.
    I thought being stupid was a requirement for this administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    I thought being stupid was a requirement for this administration.
    That might be qualification 2 or 3, but clearly qualification 1 is an inability to fill out forms properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Also, don't forget not being able to recall anything while under oath.
    They are just so gosh darn forgetful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Also, don't forget not being able to recall anything while under oath.
    You're all wrong, qualification 1 is that you must top off qualifications 2-5 with the massive hypocrisy of accusing your political opponents of those things as soon and as frequently as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    They are just so gosh darn forgetful.
    I meet that qualification. Maybe I can be put in charge of NASA or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Also, don't forget not being able to recall anything while under oath.
    Well Hillary fits that qualification.. :P.. I had to.. haha

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    Well the president just twittered Tillerson is obsolete for he will always do what he wants either way. I guess not firing is considerate to Trump - just denounce him in the worst way possible but let him "stay". /facepalm

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    So how many cabinet members has trump removed or wanted to remove at this point?


    I swear. How can anyone not look at this and just see it as a complete shitshow?

    ...Though, frankly, I'm surprised that anyone could have voted for this clown and not have foreseen this complete shitshow. Like, nothing Trump does surprises me. And it shouldn't surprise anyone that's been paying attention since the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    So how many cabinet members has trump removed or wanted to remove at this point?


    I swear. How can anyone not look at this and just see it as a complete shitshow?

    ...Though, frankly, I'm surprised that anyone could have voted for this clown and not have foreseen this complete shitshow. Like, nothing Trump does surprises me. And it shouldn't surprise anyone that's been paying attention since the election.
    Depends what you mean by cabinet. Flynn, Sessions, and Tillerson for senior level positions. Not really counting bannon/price/mooch/spicy and the like as senior level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    So how many cabinet members has trump removed or wanted to remove at this point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ja...rticle/2642158



    There's some sources that deny it's Kushner, as noted later in the article.

    My view? I think Jared and Ivanka have been using their connection to Trump and White House positions to effectively promote themselves, so I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Jared and ivanka were furious over Tillerson snubbing Ivanka's precious show in India ( seriously girl, the state department isn't YOUR marketing team ).

    So yeah I wouldn't be surprised. A quick reminder that Jared Kushner wanted Trump to appoint Elliot Abrams as Deputy Secretary of State, a convicted criminal, neocon AND Iraq war architect and was only prevented from doing so thanks to Bannon's intervention.

    Then Kushner pushed Trump to fire James Comey while quite a few of his advisers were firmly against it.
    Kushner would certainly be in a position to push Trump's buttons in ways that others would not. Manipulation beyond what we already know works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    Well Hillary fits that qualification.. :P.. I had to.. haha
    Please just stop. You're jsut embarrassing yourself at this point bringing her up. It's the ultimate Trumpkin bail-out statement. And it sounds ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    I meet that qualification. Maybe I can be put in charge of NASA or something.
    Probably not - you seem to have a grasp of science, an automatic disqualifier for any Cheeto top appointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Kushner would certainly be in a position to push Trump's buttons in ways that others would not. Manipulation beyond what we already know works.

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    Please just stop. You're jsut embarrassing yourself at this point bringing her up. It's the ultimate Trumpkin bail-out statement. And it sounds ridiculous.

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    Probably not - you seem to have a grasp of science, an automatic disqualifier for any Cheeto top appointment.
    Let's not forget that Kushner is the reason Chris Christie was bounced from the transition team, and ultimately from the administration. The little weasel has set a precedent for being able to carry out his vendettas.

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