Senator Al Franken accused of sexual assault

[downnola]

I do agree that the Republican's are taking the wrong path, I disagree with your second paragraph. A democrat losing in Alabama is not surprising, it is disappointing, but not surprising. Democrats aren't really being punished for it, GOV Dayton is a democrat, he will appoint a democrat, then the state will elect another (or the same) democrat to fill the seat in 2018, then reelect a democrat to it in 2020, you didn't lose a vote.

If you look at the special elections since Trump took office, the democrats are doing extremely well, the races we have seen were in deep red areas, and the democrats have been posting some very impressive numbers. The house flipping in 2018 is not a pipe dream, it is almost a certainty. The senate could very well flip as well, the Republican majority isn't huge.

I get you are frustrated, I had the same talks with a lot of my Soldiers about why we had to follow the rules when our opponents didn't, the answer is simple, we are the good guys, we don't move no matter what they do. I am not a democrat, in fact I was a republican until last year, but somebody needs to be the good guys here, and if you guys keeping being that, my vote will go Democrat until that changes.

Top tier post right here.

[Deluded]

Dumbass Dump admitted to sexual assault (the bus tape) and Moore self-admitted he was a pedophile (Hannity interviews).

There's actually MORE evidence of them doing what they did than what the accusers of Al Franken did.

Admit it, you're a coward. You're shilling for them and supporting them, despite their crimes, because they vote with the same "R" as by your beliefs. You're OK with Pedophilia and the President being a sexual assaulter because they "give you what you want."

Just fucking admit it already... jeez

In addition to what I said about the other dude, you are the King of the mentally deranged retards on this board.

[Dextroden]

Dumbass Dump admitted to sexual assault (the bus tape) and Moore self-admitted he was a pedophile (Hannity interviews).

There's actually MORE evidence of them doing what they did than what the accusers of Al Franken did.

Admit it, you're a coward. You're shilling for them and supporting them, despite their crimes, because they vote with the same "R" as by your beliefs. You're OK with Pedophilia and the President being a sexual assaulter because they "give you what you want."

Just fucking admit it already... jeez

Show me shilling for them. I'm sure with your hawk like vision, you'll find my endorsements somewhere between me calling Trump a vain idiot multiple times and not caring about Moore being a hypocritical christian politician.

I know it's easy to call anyone not frothing at the mouth over Trump winning a supporter, but you gotta try harder.

[ohiostate124]

Interesting how his whole resignation speech was whataboutism. Not going to defend Roy Moore here. Too much weird shit going on with him but this was a strategic move by the Dems.

[NYC17]

Interesting how his whole resignation speech was whataboutism. Not going to defend Roy Moore here. Too much weird shit going on with him but this was a strategic move by the Dems.

And?

At worst you have a political party making a political move in response to Republicans endorsing, and their president fully endorsing, a pedophile. If anyone has a problem with the political move of a resignation over the political move of endorsing a pedophile hate monger, then they don't understand either politics or basic human decency.

[cubby]

I'm not the person that said people need to resign over shit like this.

Pretty much ends the civil conversation - I didn't realize you were ok siding with Pedophiles. Best of luck.

[Dextroden]

Pretty much ends the civil conversation - I didn't realize you were ok siding with Pedophiles. Best of luck.

Thank you for conceding to the fact you are a massive hypocrite. Don't worry. I'm sure your bestie Frankie didn't do nothing wrong. It was all just a joke.

[Dacien]

So this means the Democrats get to claim the moral high ground while Republicans represent the party of criminal sexual behavior? Wow, I hope that vote in the Senate was worth it, because this looks just terrible for the GOP.

[cubby]

Thank you for conceding to the fact you are a massive hypocrite. Don't worry. I'm sure your bestie Frankie didn't do nothing wrong. It was all just a joke.

And we all thinks it's adorable how your willful ignorance, even of statements on the same page you exude it, keep your little angry fire going. I guess if you don't have something to hate, you have nothing at all.

When you drop back down to reality, and realize what a fool you've made of yourself, you can see zero hypocrisy from me - and just outright echo-chamber shrilling for the GOP by you.

But hey, whatever keeps you warm at night.

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Interesting how his whole resignation speech was whataboutism. Not going to defend Roy Moore here. Too much weird shit going on with him but this was a strategic move by the Dems.

You mean it was interesting how he pointed out the horrific hypocrisy of the GOP? Yeah, it was very interesting. I hope people pay attention.

[Dextroden]

And we all thinks it's adorable how your willful ignorance, even of statements on the same page you exude it, keep your little angry fire going. I guess if you don't have something to hate, you have nothing at all.

When you drop back down to reality, and realize what a fool you've made of yourself, you can see zero hypocrisy from me - and just outright echo-chamber shrilling for the GOP by you.

But hey, whatever keeps you warm at night.

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You mean it was interesting how he pointed out the horrific hypocrisy of the GOP? Yeah, it was very interesting. I hope people pay attention.

Okay, "It's only one accusation. It means nothing".

[PACOX]

So this means the Democrats get to claim the moral high ground while Republicans represent the party of criminal sexual behavior? Wow, I hope that vote in the Senate was worth it, because this looks just terrible for the GOP.

The fact that the GOP is back behind Moore again and say nothing about Trump's multiple accusers says they honestly dont give a fuck.

[ohiostate124]

And we all thinks it's adorable how your willful ignorance, even of statements on the same page you exude it, keep your little angry fire going. I guess if you don't have something to hate, you have nothing at all.

When you drop back down to reality, and realize what a fool you've made of yourself, you can see zero hypocrisy from me - and just outright echo-chamber shrilling for the GOP by you.

But hey, whatever keeps you warm at night.

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You mean it was interesting how he pointed out the horrific hypocrisy of the GOP? Yeah, it was very interesting. I hope people pay attention.

Weren’t people like Nancy Pelosi defending Franken and Conyers not that long ago before pulling a complete 180? Let’s not pretend that any of these people give a fuk what they did or didn’t do. They’d be defending them still if they were worried about losing those seats. They are all hypocrites.

[cubby]

Okay, "It's only one accusation. It means nothing".

Something I never said. As your delusions grow, are you aware of it - or does shrilling for the GOP offer some kind of insanity condolence?

[Edge-]

Weren’t people like Nancy Pelosi defending Franken and Conyers not that long ago before pulling a complete 180? Let’s not pretend that any of these people give a fuk what they did or didn’t do. They’d be defending them still if they were worried about losing those seats. They are all hypocrites.

Yes, they initially defended them given their experience/knowledge of them, but as the number of credible claims mounted they quickly backed away and sided with the accusers.

That's how this works a lot of the time. If someone accuses your good friend of something awful without 100% concrete proof, you're going to side with your friend, most likely. But when a dozen people accuse them of doing something awful and have detailed accounts, then you're probably going to start questioning your support of your friend.

This is pretty normal, but you're still trying to spin it as a negative. That's silly.

[NYC17]

Weren’t people like Nancy Pelosi defending Franken and Conyers not that long ago before pulling a complete 180? Let’s not pretend that any of these people give a fuk what they did or didn’t do. They’d be defending them still if they were worried about losing those seats. They are all hypocrites.

No? At worst they were saying let's see what the facts are. So if that's a defense, sure. They had anonymous accusers and a woman who publicly accepted Franken's apology and went so far as to say she'd talk to him if he called her.

Also, "but Pelosi" isn't a viable counterargument. Times are changing and at least some Republicans are actively trying to halt it, and reverse it, as evidence by their endorsement of a piece of shit like Moore. Let's be clear here. There is enough evidence and corroboration to say with a good amount of certainty that Roy Moore is a pedophile. The conservative response to that? "Eh, we need the vote".


Yea.

[cubby]

Weren’t people like Nancy Pelosi defending Franken and Conyers not that long ago before pulling a complete 180? Let’s not pretend that any of these people give a fuk what they did or didn’t do. They’d be defending them still if they were worried about losing those seats. They are all hypocrites.

Yes, they were - because the circumstances were different at that time. When the circumstances changed, people's opinions changed.

Are you not aware of the passage of time?

[Smitzelplix]

So this means the Democrats get to claim the moral high ground while Republicans represent the party of criminal sexual behavior? Wow, I hope that vote in the Senate was worth it, because this looks just terrible for the GOP.

Also Moore isn't the GOP's only problem, they have Blake Forenthold who allowed tax payer money to be spent to settle his sexual harassment allegations. He says he'll pay the money back but it should have come out of his own expenses to begin with. Also doesn't like there's a big push on the Republican side to have him resign like the Democrats are doing with their own.

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/12...assment-settl/

[beanman12345]

Weren’t people like Nancy Pelosi defending Franken and Conyers not that long ago before pulling a complete 180? Let’s not pretend that any of these people give a fuk what they did or didn’t do. They’d be defending them still if they were worried about losing those seats. They are all hypocrites.

Of course. They are politicians. This is very politically motivated, the optics to women look very pro dem right now.

[Resurgo]

Yes, they initially defended them given their experience/knowledge of them, but as the number of credible claims mounted they quickly backed away and sided with the accusers.

That's how this works a lot of the time. If someone accuses your good friend of something awful without 100% concrete proof, you're going to side with your friend, most likely. But when a dozen people accuse them of doing something awful and have detailed accounts, then you're probably going to start questioning your support of your friend.

This is pretty normal, but you're still trying to spin it as a negative. That's silly.

to be fair, the trumpettes are still at that stage where they're "going to side with your friend". Never mind the fact there are actual credible accounts and tape recordings for these things they handwave away.

[ohiostate124]

Yes, they initially defended them given their experience/knowledge of them, but as the number of credible claims mounted they quickly backed away and sided with the accusers.

That's how this works a lot of the time. If someone accuses your good friend of something awful without 100% concrete proof, you're going to side with your friend, most likely. But when a dozen people accuse them of doing something awful and have detailed accounts, then you're probably going to start questioning your support of your friend.

This is pretty normal, but you're still trying to spin it as a negative. That's silly.

I get it but if it was my friend, I’d stand by them and give them the benefit of the doubt until there is more proof than just accusations. I have a problem with punishing people based solely on accusations left or right. Look, I have no problem with them making a political move here. It is what it is. That’s all I’m saying. They saw an opportunity here and they took it.