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  1. #241
    Only a very small minority support communism in the US. So good luck thinking you'll ever see that here.

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    Is this a South park reference?
    Nah it's a bit.


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    I for one want democratic socialism with is more real then now, because people will be more equal then now and it will work daily and not once in 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    I think most countries are on the right track. The US is a good example. It needs some refining, but a federal republic is probably the best.
    That's a system of government, not economics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    That's a system of government, not economics.
    Well there isn't an economic system that works well with finite resources. So market capitalism. Along with a libertarian federal republic.

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    Gibberish. Murderous. Failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    Well there isn't an economic system that works well with finite resources. So market capitalism. Along with a libertarian federal republic.
    Again, we have surpluses of shit like food and housing, yet hunger and homelessness are still rampant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    Again, we have surpluses of shit like food and housing, yet hunger and homelessness are still rampant.
    That's gonna need a citation.

    There are also plenty of charity organizations and programs that spread these resources. But even though we may have surplus resources, that is no where near the near infinite resources required for communism.

  9. #249
    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    That's gonna need a citation.

    There are also plenty of charity organizations and programs that spread these resources. But even though we may have surplus resources, that is no where near the near infinite resources required for communism.
    Gotcha covered.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    Like, how can you look at things like:

    This.

    This.

    Or this.

    And this that this is not only tenable, but OPTIMAL?
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    Many people, including many posters in this very thread, seem to be ignorant of all the societal improvements that communism as an idea - not a form of government - has brought forth, forcing rough and materialistic societies to give in to the demands of the majority. Workers' rights and laws affiliated with their protection, minimum wages and much more was made possible thanks to it.

    People, especially Americans, have a hard time distinguishing communism as an idea, communism as the base for etatistic governments, Marxism or more. These are all different things and terms. Americans even invented the term 'cultural Marxism', an inexistable term invented by who knows whom which makes absolutely no sense. Some even go as far as to suggest that Obama or whatever "left-wing" policies are actually communism(newsflash; there is no left in the US). Like, seriously, education about communism is riddled with propaganda in the US to such an extent that people can't even tell communism appart from other systems or base politics.
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  11. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    Gotcha covered.
    When it comes to homes:
    Does the population that need them live near them?
    Do the person's that need them have a way to maintain and pay for them?

    On produce: I agree that it is deplorable so much goes to waste. But how exactly do you fix this?

    And one fucked up story isn't enough to show that there is something wing with healthcare. In NJ you can get an expedited Medicare coverage. I don't where he lived, can go back and read it, but ER should supply emergency medication including insulin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    They should become more valuable to their employers and customers.
    So American workers are worth 40 times less than German workers?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    And one fucked up story isn't enough to show that there is something wing with healthcare. In NJ you can get an expedited Medicare coverage. I don't where he lived, can go back and read it, but ER should supply emergency medication including insulin.
    Insulin is not an 'emergency medication'.

    Also, ER bills are massively expensive.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    So American workers are worth 40 times less than German workers?

    Your table is ridiculous. If you don't like it, don't shop at those companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Your table is ridiculous. If you don't like it, don't shop at those companies.
    You assume that every consumer has perfect knowledge of every company's business practices (Hint: They don't) and perfect freedom to choose alternatives (Hint: They don't).

    Consumer choice is a myth in a late capitalist hellscape like the 21st Century US.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Next thread coming up :
    Nazism: Practical Rational Inevitable
    and Slavery : Practical Rational Inevitable after that
    and Theocracy : Practical Rational Inevitable

    If this site has rules about not propagating totalitarian propaganda this thread would be the reason to use it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    You assume that every consumer has perfect knowledge of every company's business practices (Hint: They don't) and perfect freedom to choose alternatives (Hint: They don't).

    Consumer choice is a myth in a late capitalist hellscape like the 21st Century US.
    I only assume people should be responsible for their own decisions. People are lazy and complacent, and want to blame others for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I only assume people should be responsible for their own decisions. People are lazy and complacent, and want to blame others for it.
    Laziness or complacency is immaterial when you don't have the -means- by which to do anything else.

    Please do explain how someone living in an area where the only supermarket outlet within distance is Wal-Mart is supposed to boycott Wal-Mart if they disagree with their business practices.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Laziness or complacency is immaterial when you don't have the -means- by which to do anything else.

    Please do explain how someone living in an area where the only supermarket outlet within distance is Wal-Mart is supposed to boycott Wal-Mart if they disagree with their business practices.
    It's not immaterial, and consumers do have the means to deal with it.

    Please show me anywhere in this country where a person only has one option for where to shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    It's not immaterial, and consumers do have the means to deal with it.
    Quite often, they don't.

    Please show me anywhere in this country where a person only has one option for where to shop.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...up-and-leaving

    "Consumer choice" is a myth fabricated by rich white people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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