Will Capitalism Die With Baby Boomers?

[Louisa Bannon]

I guess this is where I must contribute the obvious comment that acting as if Democrat or Republican actually represented any real political difference is straight up 100% bullshit, That's not a choice, that's a lock.

We have a right wing in the U.S., flavored lite and Rethug.

There is no left.

[Doctor Amadeus]

I guess this is where I must contribute the obvious comment that acting as if Democrat or Republican actually represented any real political difference is straight up 100% bullshit, That's not a choice, that's a lock.

We have a right wing in the U.S., flavored lite and Rethug.

There is no left.

Yeah that isn't how that works at all, you don't get to decide who is left and liberal and who isn't there are choices, but they simply require grown ups to do their job and make them and live with them as opposed to the super edgy, goofballs that really can't believe how life works because they have no actual perspective that matters on life.

Democrats are left, they aren't ultra left in the way some would like but those are a minority, the cure for Nationalistic unchecked Capitalism isn't Communism or unchecked socialism.


As for more parties give me a Break we have that in Canada and guess what, it's just as much of a cluster fuck in Canada with the NDP who are the more ultra liberal, and the Liberal party who by comparison come off a bit right center. There are also the batshit greens aswell, and the fucking Conservative Party, which seems to not exist in the U.S either.

But it does it was just taken over by a fucking White Supremacist Orange Nazi, name Trump.

None of the conditions would be made better by more party, and Canada does a little better in many ways because of the size of the population compared to the U.S, not because what we really need are more fucking political parties to appease lazy fucking morons too stupid to use Google for anything but YouTube Meme's

[Deleted]

Nah that is a misnomer, most people who start out left are the same who start out right and go the other direction as a course it is meaningless, and as a indication of the future it's equally meaningless.

What you are trying to frame your argument in is that you think that as generations age they will become more protectionist which is neither really a conservative or republican trait.

However Republicans will be generally try to protect, rich, white, and men, everyone else doesn't.

The are a whole lot of studies that disagree with you.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...g-old-politics

Just one of the many, from a leftist magazine no less. People aging do tend to vote more conservative over time, its pretty much a fact that always happened pretty much in every western society in the last 70 years. You're the typical delusional liberal... you're probably one of those people that thought that twitter, facebook, and other trashy liberal social media would push to the left the society and in the end help to elect some liberal president, and guess what? They helped Trump. In 30 years you will probably look back to these days and think how foolish you were to think that the millenials would have changed the world.
Never take things for granted.

[Daffan]

No but it will for sure when Star Trek becomes reality

yippeee

[Doctor Amadeus]

The are a whole lot of studies that disagree with you.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...g-old-politics

Just one of the many, from a leftist magazine no less. People aging do tend to vote more conservative over time, its pretty much a fact that always happened pretty much in every western society in the last 70 years. You're the typical delusional liberal... you're probably one of those people that thought that twitter, facebook, and other trashy liberal social media would push to the left the society and in the end help to elect some liberal president, and guess what? They helped Trump. In 30 years you will probably look back to these days and think how foolish you were to think that the millenials would have changed the world.
Never take things for granted.

Yep I am sure you cling to whatever morsels of nonsense you can find to support your beliefs, the only thing that helped Trump is racism and stupidity, period. Liberals always win socially even if not always politically and that something you are some of your other conservative friends fear.

Seriously selling bullshit and fear only last for so long until people start to do some thinking on their own even if it's out of boredom, being liberal or conservative has zero to do with your age and more of where you are or live in terms of the issues.

College educated went overwhelmingly against Trump, it was not Millenials that handed Trump shit, It was a combination of people duped by Trumps bullshit and people who generally don't have an education and white making over 70k induced by fear and anger that Trump would fix everything.

Guess what he didn't he made it fucking worse, and now that it sunk in for many especially on the right there is no going back there is more Panic than anything else, and Trump is losing more support by the day.

That has Zero to do with Hillary or Liberals or Democrats, Trump is a fucking moron and Conservatives are basically self destructing.

As for the desperate dweebs already salivating at Generation Z, HAHAHA yes sure let see how that works out, most of Generation Z hasn't popped their fucking first zit, and you are over here talking about shifts in demographics by as you put it traditionally left wing sources.


Please keep doing what you do, because very few things I love more than watching right wingers destroyed, and these Trumpsters it's only extra sweet. Speaking for myself but many others I know feel the same way, I am not looking to get along, I am looking for this to be your Alt-Right final Song as you fade out of existence

[Louisa Bannon]

Yeah that isn't how that works at all...

Ask someone form another country if the Democrats represent leftist ideas. Pretty sure the answer returned will be no. Maybe one country doesn't get to decide what left versus right means, either.

If you voted Hillary, you voted for status quo, bank bailouts and Goldman Sachs.

If you voted Trump, you voted for status quo, bank bailouts and Goldman Sachs. Also no reach around.

[artemishunter1]

It wasn't designed to be global, that is the problem though. It's why guys like Bezos and Walmart and Gates, and Musk Embrace it, and Pickens, and Koch and all the other right wing tycoons are pissing in their depends.

Resources aren't infinite, and there are places for some they are running out of places to peddle bullshit and expand, it's why they fear globalization.

captialism thrives because of the fact resources are not infinite. Capitalism will continue to thrive because it will find out new resources to use. Solar, and other alternative sources of energy discovery came because of capitalism, its just not efficent yet. Capitalism will improve it, make it efficient simply due to running out of other stuff.

[Theodarzna]

It is known that boomers are staunch supporters of capitalism, but their generation is on the last steps of being pushed out. Millennials are more and more in support of socialistic systems, and stand poised to take the reigns of power as the boomer generation dies out.

Will capitalism (in its current form) finally tumble when the boomer generation loses its power?

Possibly, or possibly not. There is no assurance, and after all the Baby Boomers were once radicals themselves. Most Millennial are hardly socialists or communists, as they only issues they care about with any deep conviction is alphabet soup social issues and critical race theory. Most of the Gen Y political culture is second hand Judith Butler at best.

[artemishunter1]

Yep I am sure you cling to whatever morsels of nonsense you can find to support your beliefs, the only thing that helped Trump is racism and stupidity, period. Liberals always win socially even if not always politically and that something you are some of your other conservative friends fear.

Seriously selling bullshit and fear only last for so long until people start to do some thinking on their own even if it's out of boredom, being liberal or conservative has zero to do with your age and more of where you are or live in terms of the issues.

College educated went overwhelmingly against Trump, it was not Millenials that handed Trump shit, It was a combination of people duped by Trumps bullshit and people who generally don't have an education and white making over 70k induced by fear and anger that Trump would fix everything.

Guess what he didn't he made it fucking worse, and now that it sunk in for many especially on the right there is no going back there is more Panic than anything else, and Trump is losing more support by the day.

That has Zero to do with Hillary or Liberals or Democrats, Trump is a fucking moron and Conservatives are basically self destructing.

As for the desperate dweebs already salivating at Generation Z, HAHAHA yes sure let see how that works out, most of Generation Z hasn't popped their fucking first zit, and you are over here talking about shifts in demographics by as you put it traditionally left wing sources.


Please keep doing what you do, because very few things I love more than watching right wingers destroyed, and these Trumpsters it's only extra sweet. Speaking for myself but many others I know feel the same way, I am not looking to get along, I am looking for this to be your Alt-Right final Song as you fade out of existence

offcourse, college educated will vote against trump. They are taught in LIBERAL academia by liberal professors. Why do you expect any different? And let us be honest about democrate minority voters, they too don't have college education and voting due to welfare the democrates provide.

[Deleted]

Yep I am sure you cling to whatever morsels of nonsense you can find to support your beliefs, the only thing that helped Trump is racism and stupidity, period. Liberals always win socially even if not always politically and that something you are some of your other conservative friends fear.

Seriously selling bullshit and fear only last for so long until people start to do some thinking on their own even if it's out of boredom, being liberal or conservative has zero to do with your age and more of where you are or live in terms of the issues.

College educated went overwhelmingly against Trump, it was not Millenials that handed Trump shit, It was a combination of people duped by Trumps bullshit and people who generally don't have an education and white making over 70k induced by fear and anger that Trump would fix everything.

Guess what he didn't he made it fucking worse, and now that it sunk in for many especially on the right there is no going back there is more Panic than anything else, and Trump is losing more support by the day.

That has Zero to do with Hillary or Liberals or Democrats, Trump is a fucking moron and Conservatives are basically self destructing.

As for the desperate dweebs already salivating at Generation Z, HAHAHA yes sure let see how that works out, most of Generation Z hasn't popped their fucking first zit, and you are over here talking about shifts in demographics by as you put it traditionally left wing sources.


Please keep doing what you do, because very few things I love more than watching right wingers destroyed, and these Trumpsters it's only extra sweet. Speaking for myself but many others I know feel the same way, I am not looking to get along, I am looking for this to be your Alt-Right final Song as you fade out of existence

Did i hit a nerve? As I said, delusional liberal. :/
Man really, i couldnt care less what you think about trump, conservatives, whatever. Feel free to feed your propaganda to someone else I'm not interested in it.
I just said you were wrong when you said people dont tend to vote more right as they age.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...e-conservative
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/1/1205162...nce-psychology

You might not like and even not agree with it but it's a well known fact accepted even by people that are not conservatives. Infact, most of the studies about it were made by people that are definately more liberal than conservatives.

[munkeyinorbit]

It is known that boomers are staunch supporters of capitalism, but their generation is on the last steps of being pushed out. Millennials are more and more in support of socialistic systems, and stand poised to take the reigns of power as the boomer generation dies out.

Will capitalism (in its current form) finally tumble when the boomer generation loses its power?

Baby Boomers, when they were Millennials age, were far more skewed towards Socialism than Millennials. Ever heard of Hippies? Baby Boomers have done far more to change the fabric of Society than Millennials ever have or ever will. Millennials have missed their chance to make a change for society. Essentially, they are a failure.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Did i hit a nerve? As I said, delusional liberal. :/
Man really, i couldnt care less what you think about trump, conservatives, whatever. Feel free to feed your propaganda to someone else I'm not interested in it.
I just said you were wrong when you said people dont tend to vote more right as they age.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...e-conservative
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/1/1205162...nce-psychology

You might not like and even not agree with it but it's a well known fact accepted even by people that are not conservatives. Infact, most of the studies about it were made by people that are definately more liberal than conservatives.

You might as well read verses from the Bible, I’ll give you as much credit for reading as I do the sources you gave to write whatever nonsense. You wrong the evidence across the board proof.

Shit guys like you are even afraid to say Conservative. I’m sure there are those just as confused as you are that buy your bullshit story.

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offcourse, college educated will vote against trump. They are taught in LIBERAL academia by liberal professors. Why do you expect any different? And let us be honest about democrate minority voters, they too don't have college education and voting due to welfare the democrates provide.

Yes they are educated they have learned things Trump is too fucking stupid to understand. Good thing those that follow him reveal themselves to be more concerned with greed for nothing than intelligence.

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Ask someone form another country if the Democrats represent leftist ideas. Pretty sure the answer returned will be no. Maybe one country doesn't get to decide what left versus right means, either.

If you voted Hillary, you voted for status quo, bank bailouts and Goldman Sachs.

If you voted Trump, you voted for status quo, bank bailouts and Goldman Sachs. Also no reach around.

Unlike you I don’t need to ask people outside the U.S or anyone. Because I’ve studied and know what the fucking issues are and think beyond Bernie sound bites. When you truly think for your self you do your own homework rather than ask for validation and beg for answers from others.

[Louisa Bannon]

Unlike you I don’t need to ask people outside the U.S or anyone.

You know, the idea of a left has to actually mean something. It can't just be left from the far right, that's still to the right just not as far.

Everyone on these forums insists on "special pleading" so that when they say a thing it means something unique as opposed to how the words are normally used or their historical meaning.

I guess I'm out of this because I can try to edumacate the children for only so long and then it just wears on me.

Think whatever you like.

Beige and not quite as beige are both still beige.

[Doctor Amadeus]

You know, the idea of a left has to actually mean something. It can't just be left from the far right, that's still to the right just not as far.

Everyone on these forums insists on "special pleading" so that when they say a thing it means something unique as opposed to how the words are normally used or their historical meaning.

I guess I'm out of this because I can try to edumacate the children for only so long and then it just wears on me.

Think whatever you like.

Beige and not quite as beige are both still beige.

Don't do that, despite our disagreements, I do understand where you are coming from. Please don't think that I don't.

What do YOU mean by the left isn't the left anymore, I know what you could mean?

[Halicia]

For capitalism to die, there needs to be an alternative ECONOMIC system in place.

Social programs don't make a country any less Capitalist in nature.

I'm kinda curious if anyone's seen any economies in scifi or whatnot that weren't capitalist or fixed in nature.

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offcourse, college educated will vote against trump. They are taught in LIBERAL academia by liberal professors. Why do you expect any different?

that any educated person is capable of independent thought and able to recognize that there are more than two types of people in this world.

[Gestopft]

Just one of the many, from a leftist magazine no less. People aging do tend to vote more conservative over time, its pretty much a fact that always happened pretty much in every western society in the last 70 years.

But how much of that is due to people actually changing their minds on issues versus society changing?

For example: in 30 years, we probably won't be having a major discussion in society as to whether or not gays should get to marry- most younger people are in support of it, and they probably aren't all going to suddenly change their minds. But there will be new issues- issues that the now older generation may not be as comfortable with as the younger generations. So then, wouldn't it be then that the older generation will be more conservative by the standards 30 years from now, but not by today's standards?

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For capitalism to die, there needs to be an alternative ECONOMIC system in place.

Social programs don't make a country any less Capitalist in nature.

Yeah, capitalism certainly won't "die," but I'd imagine that in a couple decades it will be more regulated (unless we never manage to pass any campaign finance reform laws). I think the signs of Neoliberalism being rejected are flashing brightly.

[xChurch]

Yes, but it's really not because of the baby boomers. AI and mass automation will shake up economic systems far more than the loss of a generation. The idea of making business' and gaining profit will never go away though, since there will always be consumers.

[dwarven]

Socialism in the US would be a horrible idea.

[Halicia]

Yeah, capitalism certainly won't "die," but I'd imagine that in a couple decades it will be more regulated (unless we never manage to pass any campaign finance reform laws). I think the signs of Neoliberalism being rejected are flashing brightly.

Well, Free Market vs Fixed Economy is quite a different discussion from Conservative vs Liberal, and well... if a thread's going to even discuss conservative vs liberal they need to set the location and specifics.

Like.... how will "We pass campaign finance reform laws" if this discussion is about an autocratic state that doesn't believe in campaigns or elections ?

Which still doesn't matter because Capitalism is not a form of government.

[Calfredd]

Socialism in the US would be a horrible idea.

You mean like medicaid and medicare?