Roy Moore: allegations of sexual misconduct with minors

[Dontrike]

I mean since the fact that he's a pedophile is so indefensibly undeniable now, have the Alabamanian Republicans start using the "pedophilia was in the bible, so elect Roy Moore!" line?

Considering they've run the gambit of "that's how things were done decades ago" and "those women would be glad to have been with a lawyer back then" with everything in between it wouldn't surprise me if they started talking about what vikings would do and how it's totally okay.

[Breccia]

Roy Moore has swapped campaign tactics to the only one that will help: not showing up at anything.

[Mormolyce]

No, they used the "Mary was a teenager and Joseph was am adult!" line. Quite some time ago in fact.

I find that so maddening, because apart from anything else Mary wasn't a teenager.

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They didn't last election... and thanks to people voting Stein, Johnson and choosing not to vote, we got Dumbass Dump.

While the vast majority still vote Dem or Republican, we will only have 2 options. That will NOT change unless a 3rd party person MASSIVELY rises up in popularity many months, if not years, before an election.

That's not really true, in fact in an election with two noxiously unpopular candidates the third party vote was surprisingly low.

Really highlights the major flaw in the system.

[Super Kami Dende]

Why is this case still even a thing. God dammit the guy seems like a genuine fucking creep. Just throw his ass into the unemployment line whilst we await him to be arrested and get on with it.

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It's really hard to keep faith in, make excuses for, and remain neutral towards mainstream Republicans when I have heard an overwhelmingly worrying amount of justification thrown around that "I'd rather have a child molester in office than a Democrat" from various sources both impartial or biased, online or off, and not surprisingly including from our president.

I think it's fair to say that we are way past the point of hypocrisy coming from a party that absolutely love to extol the virtues of morals and religion but only when it suits their political needs. And then they wonder why we are more divided than ever before, but hey don't you dare call them out on it because that's how Trump got elected in the first place .

I agree completely. Everytime one of my more right leaning friends starts delving into protecting/cheering on Scum because "HURR AT LEAST ITS NOT A DEMOCRAT" I pull them up and tell them to stop being fucking morons because they are becoming everything they give the Far left Shit for.

Also, I tend to find people that are Moral people because of a fear their god will strike them down to be much more likely to make justifications for immoral behaviour. Since if you need the threat of divine punishment to be a good person the moment you think you can justify it with your god you will lose those Morals damn fast.

I'd rather people just be good because they know it is the right thing to do, not because they feel they have to be good.

[DarkTZeratul]

That's not really true, in fact in an election with two noxiously unpopular candidates the third party vote was surprisingly low.

Right, mvallas was saying that the third party vote will only improve if a third party spends the time and money becoming popular well before the election. No matter how awful Trump was (and how awful many people felt Hillary was), no other party had anywhere near the popularity to make them seem a viable alternative.

Frankly, I think that's at least partly on them. I know money is a big part, but every election cycle I see absolutely nothing from third parties until at least the primaries, at which point the big two have already been marketing the hell out of themselves. If the Libertarians were smart, they would be throwing everything they have and then some into marketing themselves RIGHT NOW to disaffected Republicans in order to paint themselves as a viable alternative to the crazies who've taken over the GOP. They have a unique opportunity to capitalize on the Republican Party tearing themselves apart, but only if they start campaigning immediately to properly build their brand in the public eye. If they wait too long they will lose out.

[Dontrike]

Trump recorded a robocall for Moore.

Don't worry everyone this isn't Trump supporting Moore at all nor giving up on those family values. I can only imagine what stupidity is in that call.

[Dr Assbandit]

Why is this case still even a thing. God dammit the guy seems like a genuine fucking creep. Just throw his ass into the unemployment line whilst we await him to be arrested and get on with it.

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I agree completely. Everytime one of my more right leaning friends starts delving into protecting/cheering on Scum because "HURR AT LEAST ITS NOT A DEMOCRAT" I pull them up and tell them to stop being fucking morons because they are becoming everything they give the Far left Shit for.

Also, I tend to find people that are Moral people because of a fear their god will strike them down to be much more likely to make justifications for immoral behaviour. Since if you need the threat of divine punishment to be a good person the moment you think you can justify it with your god you will lose those Morals damn fast.

I'd rather people just be good because they know it is the right thing to do, not because they feel they have to be good.

I'd do the same with any Democrat any day of the week and I'm glad Al Frankin stepped down even though he offered no apology and made some parting remarks instead.

Child molestation is so unbearable to me that it's unbelievable that people would support someone with significant evidence against them for the sole reason of partisan politics. I'd support someone like Ted Cruz over someone who had the inhumanity to take a child's innocence away. It doesn't matter that it happened 30 years ago or 5, if they didn't suffer the consequence of their actions then they are unfit to represent anyone whether democrat, republican, or any other political party.

I never had a say in who took my virginity and they weren't gentle. It should be understandable that I really am struggling to wrap my head around people actively supporting someone who could do that to other children. Now we have even major news networks trying to discredit the victims of the senator and the PotUS recording calls for them to get them elected. I just don't even know what the definition of fucked up is anymore.

[Travis B]

I mean since the fact that he's a pedophile is so indefensibly undeniable now, have the Alabamanian Republicans start using the "pedophilia was in the bible, so elect Roy Moore!" line?

I like how the people defending Moore's pedophilia are mostly the same ones who are quick to insult a certain prophet of another religion for allegedly marrying a child.

[Draco-Onis]

No, they used the "Mary was a teenager and Joseph was am adult!" line. Quite some time ago in fact.

Leave it to the people who claim to be religious to forget the virgin part of the virgin Mary.

[Wyrt]

Trump recorded a robocall for Moore.

Don't worry everyone this isn't Trump supporting Moore at all nor giving up on those family values. I can only imagine what stupidity is in that call.

Sexual predators have to stick together.

[ati87]

I like how the people defending Moore's pedophilia are mostly the same ones who are quick to insult a certain prophet of another religion for allegedly marrying a child.

While ignoring the same norm that was happening in Europe few 100 years later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel...een_of_England

It;s silly anyway to try to argue that just because something was fine X centenaries ago that it's still fine in this age. During Mohammed era things like birthday didn't exist, a person became a women after her first period.

IN Game of Thrones Sansa is actually something like a 11 at the start (other characters aren't that much older). So are people going to justify Moore's actions now because Khal Drogo wife (Daenerys) was 13 years old.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/0...ok-vs-tv-show/

[Ripster42]

Why is this case still even a thing. God dammit the guy seems like a genuine fucking creep. Just throw his ass into the unemployment line whilst we await him to be arrested and get on with it.

What's he going to be arrested for? Everything he's accused of is past the statute of limitations or not actually a crime. Dude won't ever be in an unemployment line unless they revoke his judge's retirement stipend. The only possible rebuke he has coming is shaming (outside of civil court, which, since he called the women liars, he's now opened himself up to libel suits).

[mvaliz]

That's not really true, in fact in an election with two noxiously unpopular candidates the third party vote was surprisingly low.

Really highlights the major flaw in the system.

You forgot to mention the third option that people chose that I mentioned - simply choosing not to vote.

This election apparently also had almost equivalent less voter turnout as 2012. I could probably believe the number non-voters did more damage than Stein/Johnson voters combined. =/

[Kujako]

Leave it to the people who claim to be religious to forget the virgin part of the virgin Mary.

And it wasn't just "people", it was an Alabama state official.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ents-of-jesus/

Party over country, faith, common sense, moral decency, etc...

[Paranoid Android]

Alabama Sen. Shelby: 'I couldn't vote for Roy Moore'

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politi...ntv/index.html

At least he said this before the election.

[Draco-Onis]

Democrats across the country should throw a party for Roy Moore's inevitable landslide victory, the GOP is never going to live down this shit stain.

[Lenonis]

Democrats across the country should throw a party for Roy Moore's inevitable landslide victory, the GOP is never going to live down this shit stain.

That's how it should be. The chants of Moore being elected should carry into 2018 and 2020 and kneecap the GOP's ability to campaign and elect officials from parts of the country that has moral codes deeper than "Democrats bad, anyone else good".

But the sad reality is he'll assume office, there will be some token protests by Dems that will be squashed by GOP leadership. There will be no ethics investigation, no move to expulsion...and in a few weeks everyone will forget that Alabama elected a pedophile and be onto the next outrage.

[Kujako]

Democrats across the country should throw a party for Roy Moore's inevitable landslide victory, the GOP is never going to live down this shit stain.

You mean like what happened with the last confessed adulterer, pedophile and sexual predator? I think they made him President...

[Draco-Onis]

That's how it should be. The chants of Moore being elected should carry into 2018 and 2020 and kneecap the GOP's ability to campaign and elect officials from parts of the country that has moral codes deeper than "Democrats bad, anyone else good".

But the sad reality is he'll assume office, there will be some token protests by Dems that will be squashed by GOP leadership. There will be no ethics investigation, no move to expulsion...and in a few weeks everyone will forget that Alabama elected a pedophile and be onto the next outrage.

I am taking a bet on Roy Moore, he will have to do interviews and even if he doesn't talk about his love for teenage girls that will be enough. His views on minorities, gays and religious liberty are the kind of toxic waste that will keep staining the GOP no way this guy keeps his head down.

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You mean like what happened with the last confessed adulterer, pedophile and sexual predator? I think they made him President...

There's no Hillary for them to swallow that pill, Roy Moore's views what he says openly make Trump look like a SJW.

[Skroe]

Democrats across the country should throw a party for Roy Moore's inevitable landslide victory, the GOP is never going to live down this shit stain.

If Roy Moore wins, I'm leaving the Republican Party.

Already have a "go fuck yourselves" letter written and ready to go to the Massachusetts GOP, which highlights the number they really care about, which is how much I've donated.

-> Mass Republican Governor Charlie Baker, who I like, wants nothing to do with Donald Trump.
-> Mass Republican Governor Charlie Baker says Roy Moore Should drop out.
-> Mass Republican Governor Charlie Baker, the most popular governor in the country, says he'll keep fundraising for the RNC AFTER the RNC decides to back Moore last week.

Charlie Baker doesn't get to have it both ways.

Either the MassGOP breaks ties with the RNC and Roy Moore, and Charlie Baker does as well, or I break ties with them and tell them I will do what I can to burn the party to the ground.