Will Capitalism Die With Baby Boomers?

[Grimbold21]

Christ, you people really need to think twice before engaging in Nanook / Kurata bait threads...

What Tennis does with Fat shaming is what these two do with communism threads.

[Celista]

ask any millennial if they would rather live 100 years ago or today if you find anyone who says they would rather live 100 years ago they are anti technology or retarded

There was a point in this country where a high school diploma earned you a living wage (with the ability to pay for a mortgage), you could afford to have children with a single earning household, you could pay for college while working part-time, go to the doctor without ending up bankrupt or paying 1/4th of your wage towards health care insurance, and you had job security because it was expected that you would work for one company for an extended period of time.

We're not doing too great right now. But yeah, I guess that new gen iphone is really cool.

[Taso]

Nope. It will continue. People of at least Marxian thinking thought industrial capitalism was the final stage and that society would form into a socialist stage ending in communism since automa was thought to replace labor. But as we see it thrived even under severe depressions of the late 19th century. It survived several recessions of the 1900-1925 phase and the 1929-1939 depression. Also under it’s supposed golden era of 1945-1973 and the decade of stagflation. Right into the neoliberal era which I argue still is kicking even after the 07-09 financial crisis.

[Astalnar]

LMFAOOOOOOOO no. Those edgy college kids tend to grow out of the socialist/communist meme when they get a decent job and start making decent money.


There's a reason why almost all "communists" who are out of college have a useless liberal arts/gender studies degree.

Everyone's a communist until they start paying taxes. Then all of a sudden, they change the tune.

[Celista]

those high school diplomas earned you a living wage doing manual labor and not much else a very painful life but back then nobody knew how good things today would be

also maybe we should ban all women who get pregnant from working for the next 20-30 years to free up a large % of jobs

maybe go to war and kill off a large % of the male population that will free up some jobs as well good times all around jobs everywhere

I know you're getting the point that our quality of life in the US is in decline, I think you're deliberately trying to be obtuse. We still have manual labor in the US and have have been in several wars up to recent history.

You would have had a much better argument if you had tried to argue from a medical advancement/equality for women and minorities perspective but the reality is that nothing you said counters what I said about changes to cost of living,opportunities for upward mobility and job insecurity.

Also if you don't live here you can take a seat, you don't see me commenting on Australian quality of life. Because I wouldn't know. Since I don't live there.

[Celista]

there are far to many to name the list would go on and on i was trying to keep it simple since you think the quality of life 100 years ago was better then today

im guessing you live in a city or area with limited space for the town to expand as well then QQ about land prices how about move?

100 years ago people moved all around the world just to make a better life for themselves and now somebody like you is not willing to move for a better life its a very short distance in comparison

Land prices used to be very cheap, especially in rural areas. Cost of living is up across the US. Also:

1. People move to where jobs are
2. Most jobs are located in central urban areas
3. Moving to a central urban area drives up cost of rent/housing

You're not addressing any of my posts rather than deflecting so while this was fun I have other things to do. If you're serious about reading up on cost of living changes in the US and other things, there is lots of info out there about it.

http://www.mybudget360.com/cost-of-l...anges-history/
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2014/ar...experience.htm
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...d-for-decades/

I'm sure there are other resources out there for you to access as well so have fun.

[Forogil]

No. In all cases the liberal arts includes science, both physical ans social. Engineering is part of physical science.

Your conclusion does not follow - engineering is more the practical application of sciences - not the science part.
So engineering is normally not part of liberal arts - but there are exceptions and some offer combined programs - Liberal Arts and Engineering, indicating that engineering isn't part of liberal arts.

Or if you like quotes:

"Liberal arts education can refer to ... or ... For both interpretations, the term generally refers to matters not relating to the professional, vocational, or technical curriculum."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education

[Forogil]

Applied science is also part of science. Obviously. What the fuck are you talking about?

Engineering is part of liberal arts.

Have you tried reading your links?

[Nalorakk]

"Communism was poorly implemented."

Newest trope of alt-left.

How anyone can think something so highly authoritarian and so plainly corrupt is true communism is beyond me.

[Snes]

"I'm from Gen X and we ARE NOT conservative!"
"I'm Gen Y and we ARE conservative!"

Jesus you people paint with a broad fucking brush. You do not speak for your generations.

[Forogil]

I gave the definition of liberal arts which includes physical sciences. Then I gave you the definition of physical sciences which includes applied sciences.

Yes, that was your error - can you admit to it?

"Liberal arts education can refer to ... or ... For both interpretations, the term generally refers to matters not relating to the professional, vocational, or technical curriculum."

From:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education

What you did was to combine someone saying that Liberal Arts includes "Physical Science" with another quoting stating that Engineering is sort of "Applied Science", both statements are sort of correct - but the combination does not follow.

[Mihalik]

No it will not.

But the fantasy Reagan style voodoo rip off economics of the baby boomers (which is really only THAT popular in the US) is going the way of the dinosaurs with the baby boomers.

Capitalism is self correcting. A correction is inbound. The problem is that while that happens, a lot of folk are going to suffer a lot.

[arandomuser]

Yes, but not in a good way, It will be replaced my fascism/national socialism, rather than social liberalism, there will be state eugenics, anyone that the alt right masters dont like will be killed/imprisoned sent to forced labor, look at stormfront or /pol this stuff is real and its going to happen, in fact the old people in congress are the only people slowing down this inevitable future.

[Mihalik]

Yes, but not in a good way, It will be replaced my fascism/national socialism, rather than social liberalism, there will be state eugenics, anyone that the alt right masters dont like will be killed/imprisoned sent to forced labor, look at stormfront or /pol this stuff is real and its going to happen, in fact the old people in congress are the only people slowing down this inevitable future.

I beg to disagree. It's the old people in Congress who spent the last few decades creating the political, social and economic environment for this shit. They were the ones who didn't stamp it out from its roots, but rather piggybacked onto it in the name of political populism.

And they also allow to it to perpetuate for the same reasons, and the only thing that can rid us of it, is the slow but inevitable death of the entire Baby Boomer and Gen X generations.

[dwarven]

Just so you know, the US already has socialism.

It's a hybrid system. OP seems to be implying a switch to pure socialism.

[Zython]

Well, SOMETHING has to give...

[ArguesWithStrangers]

You do realize the baby boomers were the the original hippies right? They were wearing that Che shirt you love so much long before you thought it was cool. The millenials are going to grow up and get jobs eventually. They'll swing to the right economically, just like the boomers did before them. Sorry to break your poor little heart.

[Taso]

Yes, but not in a good way, It will be replaced my fascism/national socialism, rather than social liberalism, there will be state eugenics, anyone that the alt right masters dont like will be killed/imprisoned sent to forced labor, look at stormfront or /pol this stuff is real and its going to happen, in fact the old people in congress are the only people slowing down this inevitable future.

Nope. Capitalism adapts. The alt right exist because of a difference in the way conservatism operates. They focus on white identity politics and are surprisingly made of people in their late 30s and 40s. I would rather link them to having a bunch of anarchist getting together and trying to form a nation that fits their rules only to find out they can’t agree upon anything. That’s to say they are highly disorganized.

[Putin-Chan]

uhhhhh, no.

[bladeXcrasher]

This is some pretty desperate shit to avoid admitting you're wrong.

It doesn't say "sort of" It says "disciplines that use science, like engineering, can be considered applied sciences" Obviously engineering uses engineering, right? So, it's an applied science. Which is obviously a science. Liberal arts includes science. Soo... engineering is part of liberal arts.

Jesus fucking christ this is the most severe case of hand holding I've had to do in my life.

You're wrong. Get the fuck over it. Liberal arts includes science which obviously engineering is a science. My original point was that people who say, "useless liberal arts degree har har har" are obviously ignorant as fuck about what a liberal arts degree actually is.

How many places give a BA in Electrical/Mechanical/Civil/etc, Engineering?