2v2: FDK + Healer vs DPS + Disc Priest

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I'm currently playing around with my Frost DK in the 1700-1800 bracket with random healers. I can't get past teams that have a disc priest, everything else is doable for me at this rating, though 60% - 70% of the teams have a disc priest. I'm stuck.

I'd like to hear some advice that helps me dealing with them. Please no "2v2 is whatever" comments, we all know that.

My talents: Plague Leech, Lichborne, Asphyxiate, Runic Corruption, Conversion, Desecrated Ground, Necrotic Plague
Glyphs: Icy Touch (dispel), Runic Power, Regenerativ Magic
ilvl 625 and 2-hand weapon is also 626 warforged

I usually go on the priest and try to dispel him with icy touch and my partner also helps if he has an offensive dispel. Not sure if I should dispel him, as that significantly reduces my dps then. I go on the DPS when I lose the priest, which honestly happens quite often when he runs around pillars, especially after spectral guise.

[Spiritvs]

Against disc priest every rime proc i get i use icy touch, is hard.. i play blood elf so the extra silence helps.

[Deleted]

I wanna highjack this thread in hopes for an answer for rdruid/lock or rdruid/rogue.

[Aryah]

Welcome to the "OP DK dream".

Basically your healer needs to dispel hard for you. You lose too much dps trying to do it yourself because of all the trash buffs

Disc is immortal without purges/dispels. Don't even need peels bro.

[Rucati]

Protips for how to kill a Disc Priest:

Spam dispel, probably better if your healer does it so you don't need to waste damage on it.
Don't miss kick, this kind of applies to all healers but you're gonna have a bad time if you miss kick. Penance is a good spell to kick since a lot of Priests are bad and don't stop casting it, but yeah, don't miss kick.
Use an AoE skill immediately after the Priest uses Spectral Guise, it gets them out instantly and you don't need to hit the image or anything.
If he uses Pain Sup on him don't switch. It's 40% damage reduction, which is hard to kill through, but if you switch off him he heals to full. Just keep training and don't give him space.
Make sure to track his Aura Mastery and save your stun for it. If you stun his Aura Mastery it'll most likely either force a trinket, or put him really far behind. Both are good things.

Other than that, just it depends on what class you play with and what class he plays with. But yeah, those are the tips to kill Priests. They aren't the gods everyone makes them out to be.

NOTE: If he has a Ret as his partner just leave, unless the Priest falls asleep at his keyboard you aren't winning that one.

[Azeurus]

Protips for how to kill a Disc Priest:

Spam dispel, probably better if your healer does it so you don't need to waste damage on it.
Don't miss kick, this kind of applies to all healers but you're gonna have a bad time if you miss kick. Penance is a good spell to kick since a lot of Priests are bad and don't stop casting it, but yeah, don't miss kick.
Use an AoE skill immediately after the Priest uses Spectral Guise, it gets them out instantly and you don't need to hit the image or anything.
If he uses Pain Sup on him don't switch. It's 40% damage reduction, which is hard to kill through, but if you switch off him he heals to full. Just keep training and don't give him space.
Make sure to track his Aura Mastery and save your stun for it. If you stun his Aura Mastery it'll most likely either force a trinket, or put him really far behind. Both are good things.

Other than that, just it depends on what class you play with and what class he plays with. But yeah, those are the tips to kill Priests. They aren't the gods everyone makes them out to be.

NOTE: If he has a Ret as his partner just leave, unless the Priest falls asleep at his keyboard you aren't winning that one.

I can say from personal experience playing as a Disc Priest that this is all very good countering advice. Just make sure to keep pressure on priests and be smart with your interrupts, because they will be the vital thing that really throw Disc's off of their game.

[Deleted]

Interrupting is the most important thing(well there is dispell but that should be done by your partner), which shouldn't be a problem since his instant spells barely heal anything.
Also you should consider dropping necrotic plague for arena, it deals lower DPS than your other diseases, go for breath or defile.

[meheez]

Make sure to track his Aura Mastery and save your stun for it.

Whats the priest Aura Mastery these days? Glyphed fade?

[Deleted]

Whats the priest Aura Mastery these days? Glyphed fade?

yeah, shadow magic glyph, tho it has a 90 sec cd

[Deleted]

Protips for how to kill a Disc Priest:

Spam dispel, probably better if your healer does it so you don't need to waste damage on it.
Don't miss kick, this kind of applies to all healers but you're gonna have a bad time if you miss kick. Penance is a good spell to kick since a lot of Priests are bad and don't stop casting it, but yeah, don't miss kick.
Use an AoE skill immediately after the Priest uses Spectral Guise, it gets them out instantly and you don't need to hit the image or anything.
If he uses Pain Sup on him don't switch. It's 40% damage reduction, which is hard to kill through, but if you switch off him he heals to full. Just keep training and don't give him space.
Make sure to track his Aura Mastery and save your stun for it. If you stun his Aura Mastery it'll most likely either force a trinket, or put him really far behind. Both are good things.

Other than that, just it depends on what class you play with and what class he plays with. But yeah, those are the tips to kill Priests. They aren't the gods everyone makes them out to be.

NOTE: If he has a Ret as his partner just leave, unless the Priest falls asleep at his keyboard you aren't winning that one.

What are you talking about? Priests never had Aura Mastery, and that spell has been removed/remade several expansions ago...?

[Ealyssa]

What are you talking about? Priests never had Aura Mastery, and that spell has been removed/remade several expansions ago...?

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=159628/...f-shadow-magic
I guess you don't know priest

@OP I feel your pain. I play ret (yeah OP shit, but playing ret since BC) with a rdruid friend. And while my burst is sufficent against pretty much any comp. We loose nearly everytime VS disc because of no offensive dispel in our comp.

Not having dispel spaming will cost you the game.

[Deleted]

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=159628/...f-shadow-magic
I guess you don't know priest

@OP I feel your pain. I play ret (yeah OP shit, but playing ret since BC) with a rdruid friend. And while my burst is sufficent against pretty much any comp. We loose nearly everytime VS disc because of no offensive dispel in our comp.

Not having dispel spaming will cost you the game.

I obviously do know priest very well.
So he means Fade? Why not just say Fade? Really, that is like saying 'Leap of Faith him' when I mean 'Charge him'...

[Ealyssa]

I obviously do know priest very well.
So he means Fade? Why not just say Fade? Really, that is like saying 'Leap of Faith him' when I mean 'Charge him'...

Aura mastery means "silence/interupt immunity" for any clases in wow slang...
Just like sprint means any speed increasing ability. Or fear means any spells fearing the opponents. Or root means any spells who roots the target.
But you're probably not familiar enough about PVP.

[wheresmywoft]

I obviously do know priest very well.
So he means Fade? Why not just say Fade? Really, that is like saying 'Leap of Faith him' when I mean 'Charge him'...

Certain statuses have generic names referring to a common effect. I would say that people 'interrupt' casts, but that refers to all forms of interrupts instead of saying pummel, kick, etc...

[Deleted]

Aura mastery means "silence/interupt immunity" for any clases in wow slang...
Just like sprint means any speed increasing ability. Or fear means any spells fearing the opponents. Or root means any spells who roots the target.
But you're probably not familiar enough about PVP.

What next, will you talk about using Void Shift? It is removed as well.

Yes, my highest rating is not 2700++, I got only over 2k, but I never heard anyone asking someone to use removed ability of an another class. Guess I play with people who follow news.

[Emophia]

What next, will you talk about using Void Shift? It is removed as well.

Yes, my highest rating is not 2700++, I got only over 2k, but I never heard anyone asking someone to use removed ability of an another class. Guess I play with people who follow news.

You don't play with anyone cause you're full of shit.

Everyone knows what people mean when they say aura mastery.

[Wass]

Protips for how to kill a Disc Priest:

Spam dispel, probably better if your healer does it so you don't need to waste damage on it.
Don't miss kick, this kind of applies to all healers but you're gonna have a bad time if you miss kick. Penance is a good spell to kick since a lot of Priests are bad and don't stop casting it, but yeah, don't miss kick.
Use an AoE skill immediately after the Priest uses Spectral Guise, it gets them out instantly and you don't need to hit the image or anything.
If he uses Pain Sup on him don't switch. It's 40% damage reduction, which is hard to kill through, but if you switch off him he heals to full. Just keep training and don't give him space.
Make sure to track his Aura Mastery and save your stun for it. If you stun his Aura Mastery it'll most likely either force a trinket, or put him really far behind. Both are good things.

Other than that, just it depends on what class you play with and what class he plays with. But yeah, those are the tips to kill Priests. They aren't the gods everyone makes them out to be.

NOTE: If he has a Ret as his partner just leave, unless the Priest falls asleep at his keyboard you aren't winning that one.

Correct. Except the leaving vs ret priest one. That depends on comp. MW/DK can probably take that down just by outlasting them and tunneling the ret. Also, I smile every time I see a fotm ret/priest in 2s. I win against that every time as combat/disc.

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What next, will you talk about using Void Shift? It is removed as well.

Yes, my highest rating is not 2700++, I got only over 2k, but I never heard anyone asking someone to use removed ability of an another class. Guess I play with people who follow news.

Just for your information (aka. I'm not trying to put you in place), in all 2s and 3s I play everyone uses slang all the time. In season 15 when instant hex/clone was a thing or any cd that triggers an instant spell would be labeled as "X person used NS" (Nature's Swiftness, which is a druid only spell). Or the even more common "NS hex, NS clone" to alert that the 2 min cd has been used.

[Deleted]

I suggest you give unh a try, melts healers, and you dont lose to much when using purge.

[Saverem]

Only thing anyone can do at the moment against Discs is wait until their shields get nerfed.

And they will get nerfed.


Hopefully at or before 6.1.